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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:05 AM
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The United States Current Account Balance
Scroll down...thats right...keep scrolling...more...moooorrre...yep, down there...Waaayyy down there.

Oh Shit, are we in trouble or WHAT???

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2187rank.html
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:12 AM
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1. Holy Cow! Everything Tuvalo gets has to be boated in and yet,
despite the fact they are sinking into the ocean, they still manage to operate at a surplus. Now THAT's fiscal responsibility!
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:15 AM
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2. Oh my freaking GAWD
Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 01:16 AM by Journalgrrl
No dubya, "That ther war don't got nuttin' to do with that ECONOMY thang..."


we are so royally fucked, it is all an illusion, the rest of the world thinks we are the richest nation? now that's funny.
:scared:
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Angela Shelley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 03:31 AM
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8. The "rest of the world" knows the facts,
it´s the American public who have decided to look away and keep smiling!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 10:51 AM
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13. it is denial, and the truth will be smacking alot of people hard
Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 10:54 AM by alyce douglas
in the face.

oh, that list says it all doesn't it? this cabal should be impeached, is it pitchforks and torches time, or do people have to be in the streets, oh, wait they are already without their homes.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:16 AM
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3. Wow.
The "socialist" countries certainly do better.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:20 AM
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4. That's great, the U.S. has the highest number...
:sarcasm:

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html

Economy - overview:

"...Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households...

Imported oil accounts for about two-thirds of US consumption. Long-term problems include inadequate investment in economic infrastructure, rapidly rising medical and pension costs of an aging population, sizable trade and budget deficits, and stagnation of family income in the lower economic groups. The merchandise trade deficit reached a record $847 billion in 2007. Together, these problems caused a marked reduction in the value and status of the dollar worldwide in 2007."
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:45 AM
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5. Were it not for our worthless dollar, the amount would be much higher.
The total budget and current account deficits are close to 1.2 trillion dollars a year when use "real" figures and not Bushitler's cooked books. Ain't free trade and trickle-down economics wonderful?
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Shadoobie Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:58 AM
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6. Coalition of the Willing
I see a lot of our friends from the coalition of the willing at the bottom with us. Even Poland. I wonder if that is a coincidence...

Greg
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Angela Shelley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 03:33 AM
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9. Poland will receive large sums of money
from the US, as an incentive to allow the US to place military equipment in Poland.

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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 02:45 AM
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7. We're number 1! We're number 1! We're number 1! We're number 1!
:woohoo:

Oh...wait...shit.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 03:53 AM
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10. The CIA has a "Kid's Page" with games???!!! WTF?!
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 07:48 AM
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11. We're number 163, we're number 163. Woot, way to go George
Dead last. Amazing. Terrific job of bankrupting the country Bozo.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 02:26 PM
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22. LOL.
"We're number 163!" :rofl:
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 10:48 AM
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12. Current Account Balance?
I think a little more explanation would help. What are they exactly talking about?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:12 AM
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14. The difference in the value of the goods and services the whole of the US imports
against those it exports. A deficit, such as the US (or UK) has, means the country buys more stuff from abroad than it sells. To pay for this, the country (as a whole - ie we're not just talking the government here) must sell off American-owned assets (like companies, or real estate) - whether they're assets abroad it already owns, or assets inside the US; or borrow money from abroad. In the long term, something will have to change - you can't run a deficit forever (it might be a collapse of the dollar, for instance, making imports really expensive, but US exports very cheap - in that case, the US would consume and import less, because people personally couldn't afford it, but US exports would be more competitive around the world, so they'd sell better).
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:47 AM
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16. Thanks!
I just wish they would label it better because you can just send someone that link with out more background.

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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:38 PM
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18. Thanks! I didn't know that. n/t
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:50 PM
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20. import-export balancing will not work - manufacturing has been offshored
we don't make anything, anymore...except weapons and fast food...

"Would you like fries with that bomb, sir?"
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 03:47 PM
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27. Well, in reality, the US still makes a fair amount of stuff
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html#Econ

Exports: $1.14 trillion (2007 est.)
agricultural products (soybeans, fruit, corn) 9.2%, industrial supplies (organic chemicals) 26.8%, capital goods (transistors, aircraft, motor vehicle parts, computers, telecommunications equipment) 49.0%, consumer goods (automobiles, medicines) 15.0% (2003)

And a fair amount of that appears in the imports list too - as well as exports, a devalued dollar would mean Americans would switch to US goods, since they'd become relatively cheaper. And remember that even if a computer is assembled in Taiwan, say, some of the selling price comes to the parent company if the design and marketing is done in the US.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:15 AM
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15. it looks likw WW2 didn't work out so bad for germany and japan after all...
:shrug:

things can go pretty well when you don't have to worry about being overwhelmed by criminally enormous military spending.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:57 PM
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21. and you start with all-new factories
unlike the old ones we abandoned in the Rust Belt... Japan and Germany (with the Marshall Plan) rebuilt their manufacturing sector in the 50s-70s with state-of-the-art new factories, since we conveniently bombed the old ones during WWII. They have kept renewing them, not letting them fall apart as we did. They are both net exporters.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 02:38 PM
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23. considering our wealth of resources, both natural and human, it's disgusting that we aren't as well-
net exporters, that is.

we keep "maintaining" our standard of living by selling big chunks of our country & industry to foreign investors to bail our asses out when something "goes wrong" and some group of white-collar criminals has ripped us off to some unbelievably mind-numbing extent yet again.

what happens when we have nothing left to sell them?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 12:00 PM
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17. How many of the bottom ten spent $ military in Iraq?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multinational_force_in_Iraq
http://www.findmapping.com/show.php/iraq-coalition/member-countries

154 Portugal $ -18,530,000,000 2007 est. - Withdraw Date : Feb-05

155 Romania $ -20,950,000,000 2007 est. - Troops : 405

156 France $ -35,940,000,000 2007 est. -

157 Turkey $ -36,270,000,000 2007 est. -

158 Greece $ -36,400,000,000 2007 est. -

159 Australia $ -50,960,000,000 2007 est. - Troops : 550

160 Italy $ -57,940,000,000 2007 est. - Withdraw Date : Nov-06

161 United Kingdom $ -111,000,000,000 2007 est. - Troops : 5000

162 Spain $ -126,300,000,000 2007 est. - Withdraw Date : Apr-04

163 United States $ -747,100,000,000 2007 est. - well, you know this one.

7 out of 10 countries drowning in debt choosing to engage in an unnecessary war.
Lovely.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:40 PM
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19. no wonder bangledash is offiering us 'poo folks loans'...they are richer than us er uh US!
Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 01:41 PM by angstlessk
shit! what else to say?
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movie_girl99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 02:56 PM
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24. i would love to see what it was before Chimpy took over. n/t
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 03:13 PM
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25. Me too. n/t
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 03:20 PM
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26. Here ya go ...


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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 05:28 PM
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28. Check out where Venezuela is
#20 in the BLACK.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 12:20 AM
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29. If we're playing Monopoly, this is the point where the other player says
"I've loaned you everything I can dude. You lose."
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