Oh My!!! - Read the whole thing - I think Cheney has lost more than just his marbles...

[kpete]

Oh My!!! - Read the whole thing - I think Cheney has lost more than just his marbles, kpete


EXCERPTS:
Transcript: CNN Interview with Cheney
By Paul Kiel - January 24, 2007, 2:16 PM



Q What if the Senate passes a resolution saying, this is not a good idea. Will that stop you?

VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY: It won't stop us, and it would be, I think detrimental from the standpoint of the troops, as General Petraeus said yesterday. He was asked by Joe Lieberman, among others, in his testimony, about this notion that somehow the Senate could vote overwhelmingly for him, send him on his new assignment, and then pass a resolution at the same time and say, but we don't agree with the mission you've been given.

.....................

VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY: Well, Wolf, if the history books were written by people who have -- are so eager to write off this effort, to declare it a failure, including many of our friends in the media, the situation obviously would have been over a long time ago. Bottom line is that we've had enormous successes, and we will continue to have enormous successes. It is hard. It is difficult. It's one of the toughest things any President has to do. It's easy to stick your finger in the air and figure out which way the winds are blowing and then try to get in front of the herd. This President doesn't work that way. He also -- be very clear in terms of providing leadership going forward for what we need to do in Iraq.

Now, fact is, this is a vitally important piece of business. It needs to be done. The consequences of our not completing the task are enormous. Just think for a minute -- and think for a minute, Wolf, in terms of what policy is being suggested here. What you're recommending, or at least what you seem to believe the right course is, is to bail out --

Q I'm just asking questions.

VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY: No, you're not asking questions.

Q Yes, I am. I'm just asking --

VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY: Implicit -- implicit -- implicit in the critics --

VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY: Implicit in what the critics are suggesting, I think, is an obligation to say, well, here's what we need to do, or we're not going to do anything else. We're going to accept defeat. Defeat is not an answer. We can, in fact, prevail here, and we need to prevail. And the consequences of not doing so are enormous.

.................

Q Do you think Hillary Clinton would make a good President?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: No, I don't.

Q Why?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Because she's a Democrat. I don't agree with her philosophically and from a policy standpoint.

.................

Q I want to congratulate you on having another grandchild. Let's wind up on a soft note. Nancy Pelosi -- what was it like sitting up there with her last night as opposed to Dennis Hastert?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I prefer Denny Hastert, obviously. I liked having a fellow Republican in the Speaker's chair. Nancy is now the Speaker of the House. We had a very pleasant evening.

Q But it's different to have a Democrat --

Read it all at:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002405.php

[wicket]

1. May he rot and burn in hell

With apologies to Johnny Cash.

[oasis]

15. And daughter, Dizzy Liz can quench him with her ample supply of Kool-Aid.(eom)

[ozymandius]

51. Thank you for your kind thoughts.

:toast:

Such words really are not said enough about Dick Cheney.

[wicket]

63. LOL

You are very welcome :toast:

[citygal]

2. He is a delusional jerk.

Clinton has different philosophies? Maybe it's because she is not a complete a**.

I wish they would IMPEACH these jerks already!!! Neither one of them should be permitted to speak anymore.

[wicket]

3. Wow, it really does get better:

Q We're out of time, but a couple of issues I want to raise with you. Your daughter Mary, she's pregnant. All of us are happy. She's going to have a baby. You're going to have another grandchild. Some of the -- some critics, though, are suggesting, for example, a statement from someone representing Focus on the Family:

"Mary Cheney's pregnancy raises the question of what's best for children. Just because it's possible to conceive a child outside of the relationship of a married mother and father, doesn't mean it's best for the child."

Do you want to respond to that?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: No, I don't.

Q She's obviously a good daughter --

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I'm delighted -- I'm delighted I'm about to have a sixth grandchild, Wolf, and obviously think the world of both of my daughters and all of my grandchildren. And I think, frankly, you're out of line with that question.

Q I think all of us appreciate --

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I think you're out of -- I think you're out of line with that question.

My god, what an asshole.

[treestar]

6. Yet it wasn't out of line to ask Clinton about his personal life

Interesting. :sarcasm:

[Glimmer of Hope]

9. What an ass! Why so testy? hehehe!

[wicket]

24. Someone hit a nerve

:D

[spanone]

11. He's fucking out of line with the human race.

[proud2BlibKansan]

18. So did he accuse Focus on the Family

of being out of line?

It's not like Wolf came up with that accusation all by himself.

[Little Wing]

20. BWAHAHA

Hopefully those Focus on the Family Freaks will Finally recognize they've been Fucked

[BurtWorm]

29. Didn't Lynn Cheney use Blitzer as a punching-bag stand-in for all media a few months ago?

I think it's a Cheney family tradition.

[TahitiNut]

33. I've never seen more palpable hate and hostility on Cheney's face.

No question about it. Even Blitzkrieg reddened visibly and looked like he felt like he was facing a firing squad. Cheney doesn't tolerate oppostion, or even the hint of it. He was awesomely on display ... the look of a homicidal autocrat.

[durtee librul]

40. or a disillusioned idiot

who knows his ship is sinking and doesn't like it that the rats are getting off before he does.

[Bjorn Against]

48. Just wait until Fitzgerald interviews him...

God I wish that was going to be televised, but at least we will be able to get a transcript.

[Hekate]

59. I live in hope. Maybe the evil old fart will implode on the stand.

I wonder if Fitzgerald will try provoking Cheney?

Advice to Fitz: watch your back and stay off small planes. We need you.

Hekate

[symbolman]

57. I was hoping for the one question that would

cause a major failure of the heart, then I realised that Cheney DOESN'T HAVE ONE :)

Actually, I used to engage mentally ill vets and get them to doctors on the basis of my observations and I can tell you, that Cheney is not much longer for this world, or at least that job.

He's TOTALLY Stressed, I could hear it in his voice, lack of WIND.. the guy is on his way out, believe me, I know death when I see it.

Still enough time to do damage though unfortunately..

[wicket]

72. He's such an an evil, evil man

[acmavm]

4. He never says a damn thing, not one, on how it's getting so

much better what with our enormous successes. Apparently you are supposed to ignore the death and destruction and count three bullshit elections (like our last two) as 'progress'.

And is he using bush**s favorite phrase or is this where bush got it??

<snip>

It is hard. It is difficult.

<snip>

[Javaman]

5. The reality is this: if moron* pulls out, the repukes are done. nt

[Chimichurri]

7. Is this a joke? Looks like it's from The Onion.

[Buzz Clik]

8. Cheney is a horse's ass.

Recall when he and Lieberman had the VP debate in 2000 and everyone was so impressed with what civil people they were?

If we only knew now...

[spanone]

10. Cheney is more dangerous than anyone I can imagine. Period.

[subterranean]

12. "We've had enormou$ $ $ucce$$e$" in our bottom line

[SammyWinstonJack]

49. Exactly! "And there's more $$$ too be had." Evil, greedy rat bastards!

[truedelphi]

54. I was wondering why the "s" s in his talk. You graphically nail it

That F&^*ng Ba$tard.

[sinkingfeeling]

13. Wish someone would ask Darth the questions that should have followed,

"...this is a vitally important piece of business. It needs to be done. The consequences of our not completing the task are enormous." Like what is the 'piece of business'? Why does it need to be done? And what does 'completing the task' entail?

[donkeyotay]

16. How dare you question the Great Oz?

Here, let me help. We've had enormous successes, billions, 10s of billions, even 100s of billions of hugh, honkin successes. We've stolen elections, destroyed the Dept of Justice, cowered the congress and shut down the press. We had all those swell terror alerts that were based on information extracted from torture, and as soon as we finish securing the oil contracts and wink, wink our big ear embassy, we'll continue to profit handsomely right up until the day the planet can no longer sustain humane life. Any questions, Leslie, and I can have you disappeared.

[truedelphi]

56. And why, if this is so important, do they NOT EVER

bother to formulate a strategy.

As Robert Fisk has pointed out, sending your military over to another country and ordering them to drive their HumVees around until they are incinerated, is not really a strategy

[Chimichurri]

14. when is this interview going to air? I would love to watch this.

[jannyk]

17. It's on NOW - blitzer/cheney interview n/t

[sarge43]

19. Uh. Interesting. We the People are a herd.

You, on the other hand Dickster, are pond scum.

[leftofthedial]

21. re: the "ENORMOUS" consequences of "failure"

has anyone asked them what those would be?

and has anyone pointed out the unacceptably ENORMOUS consequences of staying and "surging" the status quo?

[Rosemary2205]

22. Cheney is NOT insane - he's EVIL.

The whole cabal is EVIL. They are not stupid, or insane or incompetant. They WANT the shithole they have created, both domestically and internationally. Enslavement and choas make it so much easier to be Robber Barons.

[TahitiNut]

28. He's a malicious James Bond - License to Kill.

He really, truly regards himself as above and beyond the law that other mere mortals must follow. He's got a HUGH amount of malice ... kill, kill, kill. The arrogance is astounding.

[A Simple Game]

53. I am picturing Cheney in a Bond movie, not a pretty picture.

As the evil villain, yes, as the good spy, no. It would not be a spy thriller, it would be a horror movie.

I must be in a melancholy mood tonight because I can't see my life ever being complete if this personification of evil does not get punished for his deeds.

[NewJeffCT]

68. Blitzer: "Do you expect me to apologize?"

Cheney: "No, Mr. Blitzer, I expect you to die."

[midnight]

35. Is hard is that is for me to accept. it is the only explanation that

fits the crime.

[DaveJ]

23. I would have focused the line of questioning on $$$

"Tell us, isn't this war all about the money? And by that I mean, a very select few war profiteers?"

Uhhh...

"Seriously, it's not like you're fooling anyone."

Uhh...

"I mean I don't see any diplomatic solution being pursued. Don't you feel the need to keep this war going and continue to sacrifice thousands of lives merely to sustain profits?"

Well...

"When you say Democrats have no solution, aren't you really concerned that Democrats do not have a plan for siphoning taxpayer funds into your crony's accounts?"


You Get the idea.

[durtee librul]

41. Yes, but if Wolfie would have done that,

Dickie poo would have had a tantrum (and we all wonder where Chimpy gets it) and just get up and walk away. tsk tsk tsk.

[omega minimo]

25. K&R #5 --- Can we just have a kpete Forum?

:yourock:

[Eurobabe]

26. Hey BigusDickus, go CHENEY yourself

[TahitiNut]

27. Cheney has some very interesting body language in that interview with Blizkrieg

When Cheney goes into attack mode ("I'm going to kill you, suckah!"), he literally takes a "shooter's position," turning the left side of his body toward the target, lowering his left eyelid, and opeing his right eye wide. Accompanying this posture, one can easily see his hands drifting into a 'holding shotgun' pose, often pointing a finger or whole hand at the target.

It's really quite remarkable. This guy REALLY likes blasting life forms with a shotgun.

Another piece of body language worth noting is how he glances downwards when he's dealing with his own lies and fabrications. It's like he's modified a gesture of contrition into one of looking for notes. This is also remarkable.

Watch Cheney closely and take note of when he goes on "Kill" and when he goes on "Lie" ... the bastard's got 'tells'!

[BurtWorm]

30. But only quails, doves, elderly lawyers and unarmed media whores.

He'd never have the guts to shoot at the people he and his government have sent young Americans to go face.

[TahitiNut]

31. No question about it. This guy likes power. He's a bully.

He gets his jollies preying on 'weaker' beings. It would be a total nightmare working for someone like this for anyone with a spine ... not willing to totally subuordinate one's self to this bastard's whims.

[Tin Man]

32. Ooooh, thanks! Now I gotta watch this interview...

I wanna see his "shooter" posture - very interesting observation.

[TahitiNut]

34. Yep. I was puzzled at what I was seeing and Voila! It became crystal clear.

One of the benefits of being a DU Addict is a level of familiarity with the topics that we know damned near exactly what pulls Cheney's stings and where he's been at his most evil. So, tracking the topic, and watching Cheney VERY CLOSELY, it became crystal clear - he literally goes into a shooter's pose. It's amazing. I don't recall noticing this before, but I'm certain that it's habitual ... long practice with "underlings."

[Kolesar]

36. Cheney may have motor control problems with his face due to a stroke

That is why he talks out of the side of his mouth. Or so I heard it theorized somewhere.

[TahitiNut]

38. This is a whole upper body posture.

Truly, I almost think one could measure the angle to which he turns his head to the right and couple it with the angle he turns his shoulders to the right, presenting the "left side" shooter's posture to the other person - and it'd measure the amount of hostility he has at that point in time. It's really remarkable.

[Binka]

62. Oh God Nut I Call It "Dicks Target Practice Stance" When He Does This!

He actually lines up his victim as if they have a bull-eye on their body. I first noticed this in his debate with Lieberman, then in almost all of his non FOX interviews, and again in the Edwards debate. I never listen to Dick, I ALWAYS turn the sound off because his malignant narcissistic body language fascinates me. During the Edwards debate I screamed at my SO "the sonuvabitch wants to kill Edwards" and I wasn't being hyperbolic!

[TahitiNut]

64. It's really, really obvious when you look for it. Amazing.

He even 'adjusts' as soon as the topic changes, bringing his body square, facing the interviewer and (apparently consciously) folding his hands in a kind of 'prayer posture' and bringing his face to a full frontal view with a slight downward tilt and eyes un-squinted - all with a deliberately benign expression on his face. It's clear that he's "gathering himself" and deliberately adopting a non-threatening pose.

I find this very interesting. We all adopt habits in our posture and facial expressions that we've learned (somewhat unconsciously) over our lives ... "because it makes the pain go away." What I mean by this is that we all, starting as children, fumble and scramble with different expressions and behaviors. To cite a most obvious example, many of us 'learn' not to squirm and slouch because it invites the wrath of a power figure (usually a parent). At some unconscious level we 'connect' some postures/expressions with the reactions of others that we 'like.' 'Like' is very subjective. For some females and a few males, a coquettish posture and a flirtatious visage elicits reactions regarded as 'positive.' For some, it's a pout. For others, it's a 'serious' pose with a wrinkled brow and a somewhat scowling face with a body posture that connotes 'weighing serious issues.' These postures and facial expressions become virtually unconscious. Even if we get coaching and pay attention, we'll fall back into the habitual when our attention is diverted to a subject that has a very high emotional component for us.

Cheney does this because it works! Whatever he innately thinks 'works' means, it's connected to the body language he's learned. He's been a power-mad influence peddler and autocrat all his life. It's clear that he's learned that coworkers and subordinates are less 'trouble' when he does this. We're ALL influenced by the body language of another. It's pre-verbal. It's a visceral thing that all animals 'learn' - natural selection, fight or flight, threat detection. Infants recognize it. Dogs recognize it. We all 'see' it even if we're not thinking about it.

[durtee librul]

42. oh he has MOTOR problems

alright - - that's why Lynn has to settle for fantasizing about porn......

[truedelphi]

55. You are one awesome body language linguist.

Your insight is fascinating. I'd love it if you compiled a bunch of these and then did a post on them - Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, etc.

I will add that if Cheney is in attack mode, and ACTUALLY carrying a gun - Run. Or Duck or something.

[TahitiNut]

66. I'm a rank amateur. I've only come to learn this due to my professional life as an auditor.

... and in "self improvement" courses/seminars I've taken over the decades. This stuff was even taught in a Dale Carnegie course I took decades ago - a course that appalled me with its manipulative intent. We ALL 'see' body language and facial expression. Infants see it and react to it. Hell, our DOGS see it in us. It's been a small part of various training I've had but I've never studied it specifically. Some folks claim it's "pseudo-science" but I've found, whether it's "scientific" or not, that it's very real. I think that's just not arguable. What may be arguable is the more 'internal' interpretations. Some claim to be able to detect deception. I'm not sure. While I think all body language and facial expressions are 'wired' to the person's regard for another person and their attitudes and feelings toward that person (or persons), much is connected to our childhood development and the profiles of our emotions. It's that emotional topology that leads to postures. But it's NOT a single-person 'language' - It's clearly a 'language' that "works" with a variety of OTHER people. We 'learn' it by trial and error - building a 'vocabulary' based on whatever 'works.' That' of course, gets into the nature vs. nurture argument and I'm at a loss to figure out where one ends and the other begins.

[truedelphi]

74. Duplicate - removed by TrueDelphi

[truedelphi]

75. I had just watched that Wesley Snipes movie

Where he takes several hostages in Chicago because a group of "dirty" police are framing him for the murder of his partner.

Forget the movie's name - it co-starred Kevin Spacey. But Snipes at one points admonishes the fat cat hostage he has handcuffed to an office chair: "You are lying when you say you don't know who shot my partner. If you were telling the truth, your eyes would drift up and to the left, (Where the stored info is) but to lie, a person's eyes drift up and to the right (the creative center.)"

Obviously if you are a con artist, you can learn this stuff yourself and then practice not letting your eyes drift off to the right. Etc.

But Nixon's body language always indicated a constant, consuming need to lie.

Reagan I don't think ever did so. He believed we needed to be fighting the Contras and other "Commie" forces in Central America - or else they would soon be under our beds and in our closets.
As much as I detested his policies - I thought that he at least believed what he did.

And what is REALLY scary about George W. is this - he just goes ahead and often tells it like it is "All over the world the terrorists are trying to figure out new ways to destroy this country, and so are we" <Paraphrase but close to what he said>

[annabanana]

58. Cheney's "tells". . . . . .and the LIBBY trial.

PLEASE get this to the firedoglake people for when the Big Dick goes on the stand at the Libby trial!!

(AND I think you should give it a thread of its own)!

[TahitiNut]

67. Without question, I think, there will be folks aware of this.

I doubt they'll miss much of it ... if only to observe that he "looks defensive". Professionals in investigations and examinations are very "tuned in" to such 'tells.'

[annabanana]

73. I'd like to see EVERYONE watching for the play at home game.

I watched some of the tape today, and "placed the shotgun" in when he took aim... You nailed it exactly.

[Hekate]

60. That's fascinating, TahitiNut. I'll know what I'm looking at now.

I can certainly tell when he's furious (and I know damn well he's dangerous), but I didn't know about the shooter's stance.

Thanks for that nugget.

Hekate

[WI_DEM]

37. he is very mean spirited

[Rex]

39. Cheney can say whatever he wants to.

Not like anyone will call him on it.

[Faryn Balyncd]

43. Don't accept any quail hunt invitations, Wolf.....................

[MODemocrat]

44. I think the whole Cheney family is off their collective "rockers"

Here's his daughter writing to Hillary about her lack of courage with reference to this war; while the
Cheneys have contributed zero, zilch, to our country. Can't wait until the next two years when they're
gone and I don't have to look at them or listen to their crap. :+ :+ :+ :+ :+ A bunch of clowns.

[Parche]

45. Hasdirt

Was there even enough room up there with both those ignorant chubs???

[Tin Man]

46. Just watched it - props to Leslie for actually asking pointed questions

Cheney was actually squirming in his seat.

His hemoroids must be flairing-up again...

[spanone]

47. This is absolutely Dr. Strangelove in the flesh.

[jasmeel]

50. Did you guys see the video of Cheney scarin' the shit out of

Blitzer!!?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdiUXbb54qU&eurl=

I realize Cheney's "sensitive" about the topic but maybe he should thank about that before he gets in bed with this homosexual hating administration!!!!

Fuck You Cheney and your hypocritical fat ass!!!!

I feel better now. Thanks.

[lovuian]

52. I still believe Dick thinks he is King

and has NO INTENTION of leaving that whitehouse

He keeps to the Thought Police agenda
keep telling the agenda over and over again

but Dick your not getting away with it
people are onto you

[magellan]

61. I liked the "finger in the air" insult

"It's easy to stick your finger in the air and figure out which way the winds are blowing and then try to get in front of the herd."

:eyes:

Not ALL of us are trying to get in front of the herd, Dicky -- some of us were there from the beginning.

Hear that sound? It's an angry stampede heading straight for you and Dimson.

[porphyrian]

65. Wanh, wanh, wanh...!

http://www.agora-net.com.nyud.net:8090/~way/bush/PenguinCheney.jpg

[suegeo]

69. Cheney is a bad bad person

I don't understand what victory means to this asshole. Define success.

We were told that unless the republicans were allowed to invade Iraq, Saddam would use his massive piles of uranium-from-africa-based WMDs. Mushroom cloud and September the 11th were terms used over and over. Even tho, if you believe the official myth, it was a group of mostly Saudis who attacked the nation.

Then we were treated to Mission Accomplished and Bush's manly manlyness on the aircraft carrier.

All this, after these assholes (at best) allowed thousands of people to be murdered in New York City, Penn. and DC.

Someone get the hook, it is way past time to pull these bad bad people off the stage.

[bleedingheart]

70. Cheney does not respect Democracy or our Republic

he is evil incarnate and an asshole on top of it all.

He thrives on hate and destruction.

[Merrill]

71. Cheney Marbles

Let's make change and start asking for a few things to be included on 2008 ballots.

Middle Class can and should take absolute control of our government for the middle class is the most powerful influence on the USA planet. Remember the wealthy are only 1% of the population so middle class rules with votes. A change in voting and financing of elections is the only way. Elected officials do not want change. USA citizens NEED change!

We the people demand these issues be placed on the 2008 presidential ballot:

http://www.instantrunoff.com/
http://www.citizen.org/congress/campaign/
http://www.publicampaign.org/
National Healthcare for All

""Ironically, few Americans understand that a relatively small number of consumers, roughly 5 to 10 million have the economic power to severely damage the American and global economy. Spending cutbacks could be become contagious. Leaving out the working poor with little discretionary spending, the amount of discretionary spending by millions of middle class Americans with ample disposable income is sufficient to threaten economic growth and the economy. A major reason is that there is a large "multiplier" associated with consumer spending, meaning that every dollar spent has a large ripple or cumulative impact through various sectors of the economy. One person's spending is another's (actually many others') income. The multiplier can range from four to six. For example, cut consumer spending by $250 billion and it can easily reduce the national GDP by $1 trillion. If the middle class does not soon use its consumer spending power, it will surely lose it as its discretionary income evaporates, because the war against will be won by the Upper Class.

Economic civil disobedience for the foreseeable future has much more power to change our nation for the better than the political act of non-voting. The goal of the economic strategy is to obtain enough reforms and improvements in the political system to restore the effectiveness of voting at some later time. Now, in our perverse society, dollars are more powerful agents of change than votes. In truth, as has been evident for many years, we cannot vote ourselves out of a corrupt, oppressive and delusional democracy that uses military and economic weapons of mass devastation on a global scale for the benefit of elites, while pretending to be the world's best democracy. The truth of all this defines the case for a populist Second American Revolution. We must motivate some millions of Americans that are so fed up with current conditions that they will eagerly join a loose network of American Insurgents for Democracy, not fighting with weapons in the streets, but by withholding their dollars from the economy.""

http://www.populistamerica.com/progressive_civil_disobedience

[bobthedrummer]

76. He is a traitor, a war criminal and profiteer. eom

[Radio_Lady]

77. I saw the whole thing. Cheney is going into the meat grinder and he definitely isn't happy.

God works in mysterious ways.