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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:49 PM
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They said it would be Al Gore who caused it ........... because he "wanted" it .......
They said, in the 2000 Presidential cycle, that if Gore were elected President, we'd see $4.00 gas.

No Gore.

One Monkey in a Man Suit and his Big Dick.

And look ..... what's that ..... ?

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:51 PM
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1. oil was around 28 bucks a barrel when junior was appointed
go figure
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:52 PM
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3. But one thing has come down ... my standard of living!!
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:52 PM
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2. One Monkey in a Man Suit and his Big Dick.
True!
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:53 PM
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4. True...
A silly fuck said that to my face in 2000.
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DemocratInSoCal Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:55 PM
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5. I'm Waiting For $5
I don't think that $4 is going to be enough to wake up the SHEEP in this country. I'm not even sure there's anything which will, but if gas got to $5, then there might actually be some attention paid. I'll be able to smile at that 5 mi/gallon SUPER 20 TON PICKUP TRUCK as it comes racing up behind my 20 mpg Volvo.

At this point, there are SOOOOOOOOO many IDIOTS in this country, that it's going to take a complete and utter collapse before folks WAKE THE FUCK UP!!
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:01 PM
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7. $5 gas will not even wake up the stupid sheep
They drank too much kool-aid between 2000 and 2004.


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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:06 PM
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11. Conservatives worry about Dems raising taxes..
on dead rich people.

Meanwhile, inflation is roaring thanks to the government printing presses running nonstop to pay for the wars and corporate welfare.

Inflation is the most insidious tax of all. It's regressive and it keeps the middle class from ever being able to get ahead. It degrades our quality of life and our children's futures, but Republican rubes just don't get it.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:49 PM
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15. you got that right!
and Welcome to DU! :)
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:53 PM
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17. It won't be enough. I talked to a right winger today
she said that the Federal Government is pocketing 70% of all oil profits and that's why the gas prices are so high-and of course, she blames Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter for it.

They will never, ever leave Fantasyland.
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DemocratInSoCal Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:57 PM
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18. Bill Clinton & Jimmy Carter?
They left out Kennedy & Roosevelt.

I'm surprised they didn't throw Gore in there too. Somehow he has to be to blame also.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:24 AM
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19. Welcome to DU. I'm a Dem in So Cal, too.
In my little corner of suburbia there are still people buying new Escalades, Hummers, etc. It's incredible that gas approaching $4.00/gal hasn't slowed them down. And if you asked them what the point is, they wouldn't know....only that it's what their useless, shallow friends drive, and they wouldn't dare deviate. Sheep says it all.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:59 PM
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6. I think if it was that high under Gore
The oil companies would have a smaller piece of it.

-Hoot
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:17 PM
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8. Dubya didn't even know it went past $1.25.
That was the last time the bastard ever had to pump his own.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:31 PM
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10. Bush isn't exactly the most informed person. All he knows is that if he doesn't get his way.
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 10:32 PM by Wizard777
Terrorists will kill us all!
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:29 PM
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9. I post on a local board. After Bush won I told everyone there.
This boy is an idiot. He will destroy this country. Liquidate everything you own and send it to a Swiss bank account before he is sworn in. They all laughed at me and said I was over reacting. Now they all cry on my shoulder. But my money is safe. This country can implode and disintegrate. I will be fine. If they don't impeach Bush soon it probably will.
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DemocratInSoCal Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:11 PM
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12. After He STOLE The Second Election
I told a friend of mine, I don't think we're going to make it through his administration. He asked me what I meant, and I said..."I don't know exactly, but I just don't think we're going to make it after he is in control for another 4 years."
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:16 PM
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13. I think the collapse of America is what everyone in DC is banking on.
I think they all want to be the new founders of the new country. They all want to be the George Washingtons, Benjamin Franklins, and John Hancocks of the new government.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:29 PM
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14. They told me something similar...
That "If you vote for Al Gore, gasoline prices will be over $3 a gallon!"
They were right. I voted for Al Gore, and sure enough...
(That'll learn me.)
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vickitulsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:50 PM
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16. Being a native Okie, I worked in the biz for many years.
Even worked on the TransAlaska Pipeline construction in 1974-75 (as a secretary, but living in a line camp).

Oil and gas prices have been manipulated with precision ever since fossil fuels became our "choice" for automobiles. It's always been highly political and not connected to market forces in a normal way in this country.

If the U.S. had been more practical historically (like Europe) with regard to pricing of our "petrol," we might not be in such a bind as we are now. In so many ways, that would have affected how we the driving public behaved in this regard, from what sorts of vehicles we chose to buy and therefore demanded from Detroit to the way and extent to which we relied on our private cars.

Not to mention the many other petroleum-based products we have bought up massively and tossed into landfills and elsewhere, where they'll be for centuries....

I remember when my great-uncle and -aunt who were emigres to America vacationed in their native Germany in the mid-late 1970's, they sent postcards talking about gasoline being fifty cents a gallon at the pump there, and we were all shocked! It was still less than half that here -- after the 1973 OPEC embargo eased and the "free market" here moved gasoline prices waaay back down, that is.

Even that major red flag -- the '73 oil embargo -- didn't wake people up, really. Just pissed off the public, kicked them in line (literally), and paved the way for politicians in DC to remove all obstacles holding up construction of the Alaska Pipeline.

Ever notice that the environmental movement was able to stall that project for SEVEN YEARS? ... until the '73 embargo and suddenly who cared about the caribou? Let's build that damn pipeline to relieve our domestic oil situation!

Hah! Fat lot of good THAT did!

The Seven Sisters of Big Oil and their progeny have always used gasoline pricing to benefit them and provide the best bottom lines they could get, while at the same time encouraging reckless fuel use and lax hazardous waste policies. They made gas cheap to get us to expect that and become wasteful (which made them rich) and then tightened the spigot when it helped their cause (and made them richer). They're still doing all these things and won't stop until WE change our behavior -- which most people won't until they MUST, and that, as some have said, will almost certainly be too late.

IMO, it is already way too late. The damage and the future are "done."

We can rightly blame Big Oil operations for dirty, misleading, and heedless tactics and strategies, but we also have to blame ourselves for our longlived foolishness on this score, as on so many others.

I strongly suspect most DUers have been on the forefront of the small percentage of farsighted people; but as the reponses above indicate, MOST Americans have played along as willing dupes and extravagant, thoughtless consumers. Folks would only get involved and angry if they could not get all the gas they wanted to waste, pollute all they wanted to, and to hell with those nutty environmentalists and others who saw the hard facts for what they were and advised caution and sensible policies, practices, and pricing.

In Germany in the 1970's, over HALF of that $.50/gal for gas was for taxes, which made perfect sense then and I believe remains the case in most of Europe today. Here, Big Oil companies not only don't have to pay a fair tax rate but receive corporate welfare! It's always been insane, political, and predatory.

And such practices were destined certainly from the start to lead to the crisis times we're living in now. Every policy our govt puts in place in this arena is disastrous and futile -- and I feel sure the pols always knew that very well. After all, as for most well-off people, rapid hikes to very expensive gasoline don't affect them personally.

And it's their PERSONAL benefit -- NOT the good of U.S. citizens and especially the middle class and poor who suffer most, and not even the overall economic future for our country -- that shapes their decisions in government.

So what's wrong with this picture? Try, "just about EVERYTHING!"


For the poor like me and so many others, our cars have been "running on fumes" for years now, so obviously we can't go far, period. In ANY sense.


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