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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:28 AM Original message |
OH! So Spitzer Was Specifically Targeted by the Feds ---> |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
1. It is not out of line for banks to file CTR's and SARs on large cash |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Stupid and arrogant...a career ending combination... |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. I'm with you on that |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
44. But they're talking about an amount less than $5,000. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. It doesn't have to be an amount sometimes. It can be the transfer |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. So is prostitution a federal crime |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. It can be reported on an SAR if it is suspicious enough. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Transporting someone across state lines for prostitution is a federal crime |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. I believe it became a federal matter after Spitzer arranged |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #48 |
67. But why would transfers of $2K or $5K, or whatever, raise suspicion? |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. If it is frequent and similar and not to a recognized source (i.e. brokerage firm) it will |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
72. You are right IMHO |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
2. I'm leaning toward believing it was to prevent his funding the fight over the Senate |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
4. quelle surprise. oh and recommend. |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
5. Wire taps and FBI investigation does make one suspicious |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Wiretaps Spitzer, himself, lobbied for. |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:41 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. That really is Karma in action. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #7 |
29. so fucking what. you keep repeating this but fail to say anything relevant. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
50. So fucking what. Nice to see that (thankfully) a few here are able |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #29 |
60. Seems relevant to me in that he may have... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. The wiretaps were court-ordered. Take off the tinfoil. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
45. Tell that to Don Siegelman. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #8 |
46. Tell that to Don Siegelman. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
70. The bank transfer(s) set this off. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
6. Politicians moving large blocks of cash trigger investigations. He was idiotically transparent. |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. I'm not defending him. |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:49 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. I've seen nothing indicating "large blocks of cash". Where are you getting that from? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Er, the first line of the OP? |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:55 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. The amounts specified has been several thousand. That's hardly "large blocs". |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Because he was a politician. The bank noticed that |
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Oleladylib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
9. He made his own bed on this one..I voted for him..but when ego takes |
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chelsea0011 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
11. Stop it. You are all killing me. HE GOT CAUGHT!!!!!!!!! |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Whether or not this was initiated as another political persecution is relevant. nt |
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chelsea0011 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:12 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Persecution?????????????? |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. He was the target. Feds got a warrant to secure bank records via Emperors Club escort. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Absolutely amazing, isn't it? |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #11 |
24. AMEN!!! |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:59 AM Response to Reply #11 |
32. he was a target..banks don't turn over info unless blocks of $10,000. bucks get moved .. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
54. Not true. Not true at all. You are thinking Currency Trasaction Report. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. MrsGrumpy is teaching the truth about this |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
13. Was he or WASN'T the initial target? That anonymous official better get his damn story,... |
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goodhue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
15. Yes, it appears he was the initial target |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
19. Damn. See if it was me I'd figure if I was gonna be Mr. Law and |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
22. Call the wahhhhmbulance |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
26. Not so fast.you have to move blocks of $10,000. for banks to notify IRS.. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:56 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. That would be for banks to HAVE to notify the IRS. Banks can notify on any suspicion of wrongdoing. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. oh bullshit.. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Are you a politician? And do you transfer that money directly into other people's accounts? |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. self delete. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
73. Spitzer was a wealthy man before he became a politician. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #34 |
65. You absolutely nailed it, fly. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #34 |
69. If you have moved the same amount, frequently, I would say a report |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #31 |
71. Spitxer wasn't quietly moving cash. He paid by check -- quite openly. |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #26 |
38. Something that glared out at me |
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BadgerLaw2010 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #26 |
39. No you don't. You routinely move sub-$10K blocks, that will flag as suspicious. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #26 |
40. "I can not believe my eyes of what i am now seeing at a democratic message board" --> |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. icould not agree more..many weatlhy people move blocks of money.. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. And many wealthy people are the subjects of those reports, every day. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
74. Then why aren't they prosecuted for hiring their illegal nannies |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
27. this will be a year of 'revelations' i suppose....the justice department is on a roll |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 09:51 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. no..the * nazi's are working their way through their enemy's list before they leave! |
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Erebus67 (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Could be that the sum of the transfers were enough |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. you need to go to your bank and ask your bank..do your own checking to see if it is under $10,000. |
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BadgerLaw2010 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #33 |
41. They most certainly are required to look for attempts to evade $10K+ reporting. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. yes .so lets ask where was the IRS when Blackwater scammed us saying their employees were |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. We're watching you, missy, and those al Qaida Spring lines at Saks. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #30 |
42. eggsactly. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
53. But, unlike Cheney, it wasn't hushed: |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
56. no it doesnt sound like he was targeted but movement of money was targeted |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #56 |
75. Wrong, seabeyond. |
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Thepricebreaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
58. Karma is a BITCH he used to do the same shit to the people he went after. He was just like them. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Could you provide at link or a source for that? Thanks. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. It's been posted all over the forum... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
62. Alan Dershowitz was just on MSNBC and said the NYTs story |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. I'm going to go with what I know from my time as a bank employee, |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #62 |
76. Nobody is claiming the bank "randomly" looked at the transactions |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-12-08 12:15 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Oh, please. The amounts he transferred were nothing to write home about. |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-12-08 01:19 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. You can say it as often as you want, and use as MANY CAPS AS YOU LIKE |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-12-08 02:12 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Sorry, no sale. The idea of the Gonzalez Justice Department |
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