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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:14 AM
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Corrupt Press Has Been Feeding Us "A Diet Of Poison" By Gore Vidal
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 07:22 AM by kpete
Gore Vidal Speaks Seriously Ill of the Dead


Posted on Mar 20, 2008

Truthdig

By Gore Vidal

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The unique mess that our republic is in can be, in part, attributed to a corrupt press whose roots are in mendacious news (sic) magazines like Time and Newsweek, aided by tabloids that manufacture fictional stories about actual people. This mingling of opinion and fiction has undone a media never devoted to truth. Hence, the ease with which the Republican smear-machine goes into action when they realize that yet again the party’s permanent unpopularity with the American people will cause them defeat unless they smear individually those who question the junk that the media has put into so many heads. Anyone who says “We gotta fight ’em over there or we’re gonna have to fight ’em over here.” This absurdity has been pronounced by every Republican seeking high office. The habit of lying is now a national style that started with “news” magazines that was further developed by pathological liars that proved to be “good” Entertainment on TV. But a diet of poison that has done none of us any good.

I speak ex cathedra now, ad urbe et orbe, with a warning that no society so marinated in falsity can long survive in a real world.

more at:
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080320_gore_vidal_speaks_seriously_ill_of_the_dead/
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:22 AM
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1. K&R n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:22 AM
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2. Superb article
I so love Gore Vidal.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:27 AM
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3. "America has one political party with two right wings." - Gore Vidal
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:02 AM
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11. there is some truth to that -- the oligarthy set it up that way
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:30 AM
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4. K&R
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:35 AM
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5. All too true, and well said indeed. The media has certainly abandoned
principle when it comes to "reporting" the "news." I wish more people had access to things like FSTV and Link TV or would go outside the MSM to try to obtain some real information...but the sheeple can't be bothered, it seems...much easier to just drink the kool-ade.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:42 AM
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6. Never "abandoned" at all: it's been this way throughout the 20th century
With the brazen belligerence of this particular regime, and its conquests/aims, more people took notice than they have over the past several decades.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:46 AM
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7. Good point, although I do believe that there are lower standards
today especially in the MSM - you never would have seen a prime time news program dealing with all this celebrity distraction shit the way they do now. And with the technology today allowing virtually instant access to information (which may or may not be factual) reporting has really taken a different turn, particularly in election coverage. So I agree, it's been this way to a degree, but I do think it has gotten worse in the last 25 years or so.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:52 AM
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8. Sure. When an illness isn't treated, it usually becomes worse over time
We're existing at a time when our so called civilization has indeed come to a rather unfortunate, albeit bizarre, pass. It's as if the powers that be understand that the tables are turning, with fewer people not realizing the grim aspects of American fascism, and, backed into a corner regarding their control over "hearts and minds" {mainline media}, they've adopted this transitional phase of hoping to keep a stronghold on the minority percentage, still abiding the old tactics of having the herd "police" itself ... yet with the alternative media/info online, and exposure to global media, they simply can't keep up despite the 24/7 propaganda effort.
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Summer93 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:25 AM
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9. ...marinated in falsity.....
The words certainly describe what is happening now in both print "news" and M$M. They are cooking the "news" until it says what they want it to say AND what they don't want it to say. I am noticing more and more articles against a pharmaceutical as it is dangerous and then a little while later for the same drug saying that it is safe. I am beginning to think that either they are trying to make people so confused that they will just stop thinking and purchase it. After all * said to "go shopping" and the dutiful public has done it.

I try not to watch much M$M news as it is so depressing to see bad news of fiery deaths in homes and cars and trucks, weather is storms regardless of reality (we just had one inch of rain and were being told to watch for floods!) All news stations have to have a red/orange background and staccato drum beats in front on these frightening stories. Everything must be terror related.

Give me reality - the sky is not falling. I can go outdoors and be grounded in sunshine, chirping birds the occasional mink or rabbit running through the grass, the burbling of the brook, the laughter of a little child. I need to balance what is coming in to my beautiful mind.
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:37 AM
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10. K&R. If I had to pick one issue as most important, it would be this one...
We will never solve any of the other issues that threaten to destroy us without fixing this one first.

You have to know the truth before it can set you free.
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Peace Teacher Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:38 AM
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12. Good article.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:41 AM
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13. REC.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:45 AM
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14. knr, knr, knr--great article.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:39 PM
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15. Having been a very small, insignificant part of the MSM during the Raygun era...
... I had the truly gut wrenching experience of watching first hand as all the reasons I went to J-school came apart one by one and were thrown away as if they had no value whatsoever. Not that reporting was ever an exercise in purity and righteousness, an ongoing crusade to afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted.

But there used to be a wall -- lots of missing bricks, but a wall nonetheless -- between the editorial and publishing/financial sides of the operation. This at least partially insulated reporters and editors from the consequences of, for example, running a story that criticized the business or labor practices of a valued advertiser.

Unfortunately, as the Raygun ethic of greed and corruption and unending money grubbing took hold and grew more dominant by the day, those long-standing values of journalistic independence and and even (really) personal integrity were replaced by a culture of subservience to advertisers, overly cordial relationships with people of political and economic power in the community and the morphing of editorial staff from valued assets to interchangeable parts.

So we got shittier pay and no raises, most benefits disappeared, hours increased from an already insane weekly average of around 65 - 70, and just about anything we wrote that wasn't supportive of the mainstream narrative of American decency and corporate responsibility was rewritten or spiked altogether.

I put up with this shit for about three more years, put together what I hoped was an impressive portfolio of clips and letters of endorsement from profs I had studied under, came up with a letter of introduction that implied I was already a strong candidate for the Pulitzer and sainthood simultaneously and sent out a half a zillion of these packages to grad schools all over the place.

Long story short: UC Berkeley actually believed this gibberish and I got a free ride to grad school under the great, great Ben Bagdikian, author of "The Media Monopoly" among dozens of other volumes of media criticism. The book came out in (I think) 1982 and bemoaned the fact that only 50 companies owned most media outlets in the US. We should be so lucky; we're down to six and there are ongoing merger/acquisition talks between two of them.

The thing I learned that stuck with me the most was this: American journalism is under stress from economic and ideological forces beyond its ability to resist. Consolidation is underway and won't let up until a handful of giant companies own everything we see, hear, touch and feel. And their ideas will become ours because there won't be any viable mass media outlets to present credible alternatives.

The InterTubes have become that credible alternative over the past 10 or so years. I can't imagine living in a society in which my entire world view is shaped by the alleged "news" these network and cable stupidity inducing machines churn out. I mean, can you imagine being a Fux watcher and believing with all your shriveled wingnut heart that Saddam did 9/11? How stupid do you have to be? But I digress...

After grad school, and after a mercifully brief stab at teaching, I figured as long as my values were going to be ignored anyway, I might as well go to work for the corporate slime machine and make some actual money.

I've been practicing some variation on that theme since about 1986. I try to save my soul periodically as an internet columnist in a permanent satiric rage against every single thing that has made this country the economic, intellectual, moral, institutional sink hole that it's become after nearly 30 years of Raygunism -- with a substantial contribution from the big dawg, I'm sorry to say.

So that's my story of media dysfunction. If you want to read an intelligent take on the mess we're in, along with the historical, sociological and economic roots of of this miserable excuse for a free press, you might pick up a copy of "The Problem of the Media: US Communication Politics in the 21th Century" by Robert McChesney. This one really stands out among the dozens of books on media criticism I've read over the years, even Bagdikian's ground-breaking work.

Thanks for reading this longer-than-I-had-intended screed.


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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:00 PM
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16. It's all going to collapse soon enough....
if that makes you feel any better.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:50 PM
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18. What's "all" in this case?
The whole bloated system of consumption and a quick trip to the landfill? The system of corporate ownership of media? The entire system of corporate "values," if there is such a thing, replacing human values? The intertubes?

Just curious.

My take on collapse. I think the 12 key environmental stresses discussed in Jerod Diamond's book by the same name will bite all of us in the ass, unless Cheney uses the nuclear launch codes to turn the planet into a cinder before the trapped greenhouse gases do.

Absent nuclear or environmental holocaust, I think a slow death by economic strangulation is a good possibility. I think the current economic mess will get immeasurably worse and end up crushing whatever's left of the manic hyper-consumerism that's fueled the entire rigged capitalist game. And I further think that's absolutely great and about damn time.

I think the people who suffer the most will, as usual, be those lacking any political clout, with no practical survival skills or enough liquid assets to last a few years without any income.

I think that anybody with any common sense who lacks these vital attributes is insane to stick around as the world champion of rapacious capitalism becomes the world champion of unmet expectations and open class warfare.

I'll take Costa Rica for a thousand, Alex, and get me the hell out of here and into a civilized country for a change asap.


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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:42 PM
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21. Economic collapse first....unless
Cheney does the unthinkable.

I've heard Costa Rica mentioned before...why? Are people kind there? A democracy? I would like to find a nice place to ride out the mess. I don't want to buy a gun, but....
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:38 PM
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22. Costa Rica...
Physically beautiful in some places, logged out or polluted all to hell in others. San Jose, the capital, is a big city kind of on the brink between the first and third worlds. It reeks of diesel exhaust, as does every city I've been to in Central or South America. But there are great restaurants, a pretty safe downtown area, an opera house that's about a 1/3 scale replica of the Paris Opera House and a large and growing expat community from here and Europe.

It's humid beyond endurance at the coasts -- at least my endurance -- but it's temperate and not at all humid in the interior, starting at around 3500 - 4000 feet. You can literally freeze at about 12,000 feet atop one of the volcanoes that forms the north-south spine.

The people seem decent, friendly to a point and seemingly happy to talk or leave you alone, your choice. I should mention that my Spanish is pretty primitive but they're cool about it and try to use their English and my toddler Spanish to communicate. It works OK, along with plenty of sign language. I'd want to get a whole lot more proficient if I were to spend much time there, though.

Service people -- waitstaff, retail, bar tenders, merchants, et al -- are very polite and pleasant, and you don't get this constant aggravating money grubbing you get in some places here. I've been to plenty of regular old retail stores in the US where I felt like I had blundered into a used car lot, measured in intensity of sales pressure.

None of that crap in Costa Rica that I've experienced, but maybe that's just because I can't handle Spanish well enough to know that I'm actually being intensely pressured or threatened with dismemberment if I don't buy a particular shirt or pound of coffee.

The roads outside the city can be pretty lousy, particularly in the rainy season. The state run airline -- Sansa -- flies all over the place, to the most remote towns and wild areas, places you could never get to by car without a major struggle and a lot of wasted time. For example, from San Jose to Capos (not correct spelling, but that's how it's pronounced) on the Pacific coast is at least a five-hour drive most of the year. It's about 20 minutes by DC-3 and, when I was there last, airfare was about US$11.00. Probably US$50.00 now thanks to Bushie. Or maybe they only accept Euros anymore.

Sansa does, however, have several old Spanish-built planes that look like city buses hung from a single wing -- about as aerodynamic as a grand piano. I was a little leery of boarding that one, but with enough Xanax...

A friend is evacuating the US and moving down there permanently in a couple of weeks. I'm invited any time, or so I hear, so I may be dropping in later this year. If so, I'll have much more up-to-date information.

Last time I was there was, I think, 2002 -- before Americans were universally despised and/or feared -- so attitudes may have changed considerably since then.

Thanks again, Bushie, you vile moronic bastard. Sure makes it tough to have a life with an asshole like that as the most public face representing your country of origin. And then there's Cheney, the world's leading war mongering prick...

It's time for another strongly worded letter to Ms. Nancy demanding impeachment of the whole putrid nest of vipers, or her resignation as speaker immediately. These carefully crafted notes are always ignored, but writing them takes the edge off for a few hours.

PM me if you want specifics on anything I haven't mentioned and I'll try to help.


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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:27 PM
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23. Thank you so much for the info....
Unfortunately, I took French in college.

I have been writing Pelosi, Conyers and the other 21 Dems on the Judicicary Committee for months now. And these cards I send are extremely flamboyant....tons of colorful stickers that I use as 'words.' For examply: Where are you BALLS? (basketballs, baseball, footballs). And for the women I ask where are your OVA (pretty Easter eggs).

I bet I've sent them at least 15 rounds of cards. Plus the assorted cards to the Senators that piss me off....and lets not forget the Blue/Bush Dogs who drive me insane. I've spent a small fortune in postage. All for naught. Damn.

The only way we can somewhat apologize to the world is by impeaching. I think the fascists are winning.

Maybe I can find some other like-minded people who would like to develop a 'village' of straw-baled houses with geothermal and solar, etc. Get off the grid and try to enjoy a simple life.

Again, thx for the info...I feel like I've had a short visit to Costa Rica.

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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:06 PM
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38. go west, young person...
Maybe I can find some other like-minded people who would like to develop a 'village' of straw-baled houses with geothermal and solar, etc. Get off the grid and try to enjoy a simple life.

Try rural north-western California. The interior coastal range is nice, not humid at all, and there are not too many people. Del Norte, western Siskiyou, Humboldt, Trinity, Mendocino and Lake counties are nice; there are lots of like-minded people already there (I'm one). The area is about as far away from Wash.DC as one can get and not get wet.

Costa Rica doesn't do much for me; it has too much sun for my Nordic skin and eyes. Also, my second language is German. I already have an invitation from a friend in Belgium to stay/move there, and have step-family cousins in Europe. I am considering that invitation.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:03 AM
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45. You can't work for others there. You can only have your own business.
Looked into moving there for a long time.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:48 PM
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35. If you work for the slime machine, how do you separate
what you do from who you are?

No snark intended. I really want to know. Because to some extent, it's that way in almost every field I've worked in.

Even at the lower levels, if you know enough, you'll have to say & do things you don't believe in, that you think are positively harmful, in fact, to "fit in".
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:20 PM
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37. Splitting identities...
Hi -- That's a great question and I think the quick answer is I don't really have much choice because Google is a two-edged sword. What I mean is...

Most of the consulting work I do is for medium-sized to very large high tech corporations, which tend to be somewhere between moderate right and Cheney supporters politically. I simply can't have the people who make decisions on whether they're going to use my services Googling my real name and finding out that I'm an unapologetic lefty with a fairly wide anarchist streak and have a profound, long-standing loathing for all things conservative and/or Bushean-fascist.

Or that I have a real problem with American-style capitalism and imperialism, hate little flag lapel pins, will no longer have anything to do with US mass media as a contributor or consumer, advocate against for-profit medicine and for single-payer health care, know beyond a doubt that 9/11 was a Bush/Cheney production, know beyond a doubt that the bastards stole two straight presidential elections and will steal a third if they're not prevented from doing so...

All this and a substantial body of online work that suggests I'm not fucking around.

So, this all means that if I want to continue to eat and pay the mortgage while working for the political and social objectives I'm committed to, I simply have to split my life into work and personal components. And the two better never meet.

I use this alias for all political activity -- including as a byline on published material -- and all my website registrations use this one as well. My personal email I keep very private and only give it out to friends and clients.

As to living in my own skin while aiding and abetting the machine, I've come to realize that if you're chronically broke and scuffling for money all the time, you don't have any time or energy left over to do stuff that's worthwhile politically. So I take their money and regard it as one of the very infrequent cases of wealth transfer from top down, a very small wealth redistribution program that allows me the flexibility to have a decent income and still have plenty of time and energy for the stuff I want to accomplish.

I also draw on my experience to help people understand how, for example, effective corporate spin-doctoring shifts the focus of cynicism and outrage away from the machinations of big business and attempts to direct it toward whoever or whatever is challenging their public image and benevolent-corporate-citizenship mythology.

Then how to put that dynamic to use to promote their own causes and point the finger at what's causing the problem so that, rather than being victimized by a culture based on pure bullshit, they can create their own bullshit from the side of the angels and, hopefully, make it part of the great American pop cultural zeitgeist (overused word that it is).

I do a lot of pro bono work for causes I believe in as well. These days, that means using any and every skill I have to take down the Bush regime. As you can see, I'm not really doing very well at it, but I persist simply because I can't NOT continue working to end this nightmare. At the worst, I'll still be able to look at myself in a polished steel mirror at one of those fine FEMA detention camps.

It's testimony to the sheer awfulness of American consumerist culture norms and the way they interlock with corporate values that a lot of people I know have to do this economic doublethink to, on the one hand, not starve and, on the other, continue doing everything they can to subvert the very system that pays them.

Weird, eh?


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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:00 PM
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40. thanks for explaining. i understand, but i can't quite agree. n/t
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:37 PM
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42. Yeah, I'm not sure I do either...
It's a hell of a fine line between being a good little apathetic American corporate android and putting myself beyond any possibility of securing future work, and it's increasingly tough and aggravating to walk it.

The Bush/Cheney ongoing outrage du jour is making it nearly impossible to give much of a damn about preserving the duality any more, but I'm also a fanatic for privacy in all contexts, not just political, so I'd probably opt for anonymity in any case. The net is the greatest resource for

I should have added in the previous message that I don't hold anything back politically if I run into a BushBot in any soft of working context. Mercifully, their numbers have declined over the past three years or so to the point where they're getting hard to find. Which is as it should be.

So I don't care about popping off once I've hooked the contract. I just remain cautious about the Google effect and how it pretty much destroys privacy. And not just political privacy. I Googled my phone number a few months back and up came a satellite image of my house, with street address and an associated map if I wanted to find the place. This is just an outrageous invasion of privacy and I'm not interested in playing along.

I have no illusions about hiding from the NSA. If they don't know who I am and what I think by now, I'd be disappointed that my tax dollars were being wasted on such lousy surveillance systems or idiotic analysts. Either that or I wasn't doing enough to piss them off and need to step up the dissidence.

Anyway, I'm not usually into self-justification, but you asked a very good question and I decided to answer it as thoroughly as possible. Not looking for absolution; but if you face similar problems in your work life, it seemed a good idea to give you a general sense of how I've managed to deal with these issues over time.

So I hope this helps in some fashion.


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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:18 AM
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43. I appreciate the honest answer. I don't think there is any "good"
choice, & that's the hell of it.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:52 AM
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44. Agreed, and thanks for making me think about this again -- it's been a while. n/t
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:35 PM
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17. No, no, no! We've have got to understand the awesome resistance of the American people
to this relentless, 24/7 fascist propaganda. Because it is the key to everything. It is the key to what's really gone wrong--which is disenfranchisement of the peace-minded, justice-minded American majority, in such an obvious way, it isn't even funny--but is, nevertheless, the blackest of the black holes in the "news": Trade secret, proprietary programming code, owned and controlled by far rightwing, Bushite Republican corporations (Diebold, ES&S and Sequoia), infested in our voting system, all over the country, with virtually no audit/recount controls, during the 02-04 period.

This is the chief means by which the Corporate Rulers achieved a Congress that has escalated, and given billions more of our money, to the war on Iraq, in the teeth of a seventy percent antiwar majority in the country, to which the elections in 06 were mysteriously impervious. It is how Bush-Cheney retained power, in 04, after starting this disastrous war, torturing prisoners and looting our treasury. (Ohio was extra--the main fraud was with the voting machines, nationwide.)

I've been following many polls--issue polls, approval polls--by both corporate media and independent pollsters--since late 2002, and you would be amazed at what they tell you: Feb 03, eve of the invasion of Iraq--fifty-six percent of the American people opposed it. 56%! (NYT poll; other polls 54-55%). 54-56% is a significant majority. It would be a landslide in a presidential election (and believe me it was). And it was in anticipation of that number getting even bigger--up to today's staggering, unprecedented 60+ to 70% anti-war majority--that trade secret vote counting was implemented, in the same month--Oct 02--as the Iraq War Resolution.

I would put the onus of the fascist coup that we have suffered on the following phenomena or entities, in this order:

1. Trade secret, proprietary vote counting, with virtually no audit/recount controls--with the code owned and controlled by private, rightwing, Bushite corporations. Disenfranchisement of the American majority.

2. The war profiteering corporate news monopolies. (The malignancy that Gore Vidal speaks of.) Creating a plausible narrative for false fascist victories--to sow confusion, to demoralize, to prevent rebellion.

3. Our Democratic Party leaders, who permitted--nay, fostered--the takeover of our election system by private, rightwing Bushite corporations and their trade secret code. Horrible betrayal of their constituents and of all Americans.

And, of course, the criminals George Bush, Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Donald Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzales, et al, and the global corporate predators for whom they work--the direct perpetrators of the coup--are the presumed top of the list.

Now, it is true that, with a vigilant press, "trade secret" vote counting could never have occurred. A free press is essential to defeating any such fascist/corporate scheme. But I am thinking of strategy. There is nothing we can do to bust up these corporate news monopolies, and reopen our political life to wide spectrum discourse and useful public discussion, until we rid ourselves of "trade secret" vote counting, and restore vote counting that everyone can see and understand. The fascists will blockade our every effort to restore a free press--or to achieve any other desperately needed reform--at the ballot box, with their new, unprecedented, secret power over the results of our elections.

And since the Diebold II Congress is absolutely collusive on maintaining rightwing corporate control of our voting system, we have to get rid of this system at the state/local level, where ordinary people still have some influence.

And I wish to God that brilliant, perceptive leftist writers and public figures like Gore Vidal would help us with this! And I'm afraid that may be a kind of intellectual elitism--I see it Chomsky and others--whereby they simply can't believe in the People, and, just like the corporate news media, are ignoring the People--and their obvious, documented, rejection of this fascist junta--in poll after poll and poll, since late 2002 (when I started reviewing them)--on every issue, on every major Bushite policy, foreign and domestic. Torturing prisoners? Protecting Social Security? Women's rights? Bush's profligate spending and looting? The war on Iraq? You name it. 60% to 90% leftist/progressive majorities.

This is amazing. It means that the People have not been fooled. All they get is propaganda, brainwashing and psyops, from every direction in the corporate news monopolies. And they haven't bought it!

And, as a matter of fact, the same thing is true in South America--near total fascist control of the media--yet the people there have elected one leftist (majorityist) government after another--in Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Uruguay and Nicaragua. The difference between us and them is not the corporate media. It is transparent vote counting. For instance, in Venezuela, they have electronic voting, but it is an open source code system--anyone may review the code by which the votes are tabulated--and they handcount a whopping 55% of the votes, as a check on machine fraud. We have trade secret code vote counting, by rightwing corporations, with many states counting zero votes, as a check on machine fraud, and the best states doing only 1% (miserably inadequate in a "trade secret" code system). The media are venomous fascists, in South America (even worse than here). But the votes are COUNTED--really counted (--the result of long hard work by local civic groups and social movements, the Carter Center, the OAS and EU election monitoring groups).

So, Mr. Vidal, if you are reading this, PLEASE understand that the American people have been disenfranchised, and their will has been thwarted, and they need help penetrating this black hole in the news as to how it was done--a tremendous crime committed by the War Party, and kept well under the radar of the American people so that its impact has become almost impossible to reverse--which is where we are now. Almost impossible. But not totally impossible. We need help now to restore transparent vote counting, and, until we have accomplished this, all reform is blockaded--and all the correctives of a democratic system are disabled.

There is a big peoples' movement, all over the country, working hard on this matter--at the state/local level. It doesn't have national glamor--but it is how this coup can be reversed. It's how they did it in South America--from the ground up. These citizen groups and activists need support. They need the problem to be exposed. They need help pressuring local officials--who are, as often as not, corrupt, collusive Democrats. This is it. It is the end of American democracy, or the beginning of renewal. It all rests on the sovereign power of our votes, which has been usurped.

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:58 PM
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36. "Feb 03, eve of the invasion of Iraq--fifty-six percent of the American people opposed it. 56%!"
So where were they, & where are they?

If opposition is so strong, why aren't they in the streets? Why aren't they organizing in their neighborhoods, starting letter-writing campaigns, blocking arms shipments, etc.?

If the voting machines were legit, would we get to vote on the war?

Would we get to vote for a candidate who wasn't corporate-funded & vetted?

Why do the local Democrats never return my calls when I call to volunteer?

Why isn't the "anti-war movement" reaching out to the 60-70% who opposes the war to create the biggest movement in history?


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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:51 PM
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19. K&R, We have become like the Soviet Union, and the media has become Pravda n/t
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:41 PM
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20. All Lies All The Time
Thank you kpete, and thank you Gore V for reminding us.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:31 PM
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24. Love it. WFB was an arrogant gasbag and it tickles me to see
Vidal tell it like it was.
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:25 PM
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25. Hey...
Let's make them irrelevant. Let's refuse to blog about the fluff stories. Let's not even click on the blog posts that do talk about the fluff stories, even to criticize how much coverage they're getting, because that's just one more view and one more point to the heiresses-and-shaved-superstar-heads-peddling media. Let's use the blogosphere to connect people in America to people all over the world who can talk about what's really going on as the government only talks about it in increasingly B.S. terms. If the blogosphere, rather than arguing that something is true when the media says it's false, simply accepts that it is true and uses that for the basis for further discussion, the mainstream news sources will have to follow suit or be left in the dust. Let's...become the media, as a man named Jello once said. :D
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:30 PM
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26. K&R....Mr. Vidal....
....speaks the truth....
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:26 PM
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27. There ya go!
How come there is no "implied warranty of merchantability" for news? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

When they market it as news, they shouldn't be allowed to publish or air stuff that they know is a lie. It ain't right!
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JimiJonga Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:45 PM
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28. John Stewart hit it right.
They tried left wing tv, AND radio, Americans dont want to hear it. You have to feed it to them ala comedy, then they will listen to left wing news. I used to listen to a left wing station on the radio in a warehouse with lots of non-conservative types, and they would just get pissed off at the politics. I had to turn it to music. You HAVE to make them laugh. That is going on on cable now, John Stewart hit it just right. Not sure why the right gets away with it, I think its because of the retarded gene. (not kidding).

But you are right, the TV reporting is aimed at fluff, not news. What to do? Its not a political program unless Nader gets in. May-be Obama, but he owes alot of big corporations also. Clinton, of course, signed the bill.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:12 PM
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29. love Vidal. his skill in argumentation and articulation are a delight.
sometimes just reading a structured sentence of his is as delightful as the meaning within. K&R:bounce:
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:45 AM
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30. The background article from Esquire is also excellent.
The Truthdig site has a link to the original 1969 Esquire article that Buckley sued Vidal & Esquire over, for slander. He got nothing.

Fills out some of the specific name-calling that Buckley did, beyond the TV clip.
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 03:33 AM
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31. He is THE MAN.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 06:39 AM
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32. Excellent rant! K&R
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 07:43 AM
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33. I just re-read it again, out of the gay side of my ear
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 07:51 AM by downstairsparts
and it reminded that this Vidal-Buckley exchange on live TV was my first introduction to Gore Vidal. I was 14 that violent year. Their commentary was quite an eye opener for a young gay boy. I paid attention to Gore, but Buckley seemed exactly to me as Gore describes him "a most hysterical queen (WFB)." Buckley was the hysterical queen calling Gore a queer! Again on live network TV.

There's a lot of talk about spiritual mentors. Gore Vidal, from that time on, became my political mentor. Just by reading him, listening to him, and watching him on TV. I'm lucky I happened on to Gore Vidal at such a young age. Having a clear understanding how the world moves and shakes has been a lot easier in my life, thanks to him.

Thanks Gore, again.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:18 PM
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34. Great article!
Time for a kick.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:07 PM
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39. It's only possible because Americans are fucking idiots.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:09 PM
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41. Knr. "The basis of democracy is a well informed public" Lincoln.
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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:50 PM
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46. We are Being Killed by "Fun" Visuals and Corporate-Consulted Jargon
I think another, large part of the general problem (I have not read the article yet) is the constant, neverending, and I believe deliberate, tactic used by corporate media, to make everything, everything, every God-damned thing, a visual image. You can follow through one of their many "excuse-pieces" on "why" gas prices are at an all-time high, for example, and every single time anything is referred to--the price, paying more and more money, filling the gas tank, having less money for other expenses--every single topic, there is a jarring, extremely close camera shot of a representation of that thing; it actually drives the previously coherent thought right out of your mind. Close-up of the pump prices, close-up of money, close-up of the pump in the vehicle tank, close-up of a cash register, on and on and on, like you a stupid fucking idiot who has to be led by shoving your face in it every single time. This is so annoying, and so unique to this era--I had never before seen this constant, even hysterical use of extreme, vulgar close-ups constantly, as if violating you, right in your face--and now it is inescapable, on both commercials and pseudo-"news." It is like a continuous mind-erasing propaganda stream. I can no longer look at the screen whenever they start up one of these quick-cut/close-up/spinning camera "epileptic-seizure-fests," and in between yelling-fits at the TV, I wondered why in the hell they would ever plan any audience treatment that way.

I have come to believe it is this: the more they shift attention and interest from a word-based, reading-based thinking, to a visually-based hyperactive mind, the more the person sitting at home becomes unfit for reading, and slow, step-by-step logical reasoning and argument. Needing a visual before you can even hold a mental construct of what was once a fast-paced abstract, stupifies you. Keeping the hysteria of flashing, quick-cutting visuals and loud, vulgar sound, makes you permanently too hyped up and nervous to keep your mind on the "boredom" of reading and thinking. You can't keep your mind on it; you want to "play." It transforms you from an educated adult to a hyped-up consuming child. If you now only "think" by using a visual, as every single media commercial-advertisment/"news" (same thing) does, it means you can't grasp at all, the complex, abstract, "higher-than-worded" thoughts that only become intelligible by being worded. I believe this is a way of killing completely the possibility of "difficult" citizens who demand corporate accountability, public works, etc., by reading and discussing politics, and replaces it all with stupified people who "don't read anything anymore."

I also remember news coverage of events and issues during the 1970s as a teenager, etc.--and no, it was not "always like this"--and it was like sitting in school; it was boring for those who like entertainment only, slower paced, but after an hour or two of local and national news, you really felt like you learned and understood something of the world, a feeling you can never get anymore. I remember when they were wise enough that local news was not even listed on the Neilson ratings, on the theory that competing for audience-share and sponsor ad-rates would distort and destroy the news. News stories were sometimes 10 or 15 minutes long, for long background, quotes, explanations, etc., on national news--Walter Cronkite did very early explanations on CBS of the then-unfolding Watergate scandal that way. Things were treated as written stories, and the narrative was the important focus; now the visual (and stupid music, for God's sake) is. They had reporters covering things that were considered important, not "sponsor-friendly"--I remember Carl Stern on NBC, for example, whose whole beat was the Supreme Court. You got regular reports on important court cases, legal decisions, etc., (this was the time of Roe v. Wade and legalized abortion, a very exciting, inspiring day).

I think the propaganda-media coverage-shift from the read and considered word to the "emoted-about" visual, as the new enforced conformity, and the treatment of the world as only a cut-throat commercial operation for only the "biggest players," with no coverage at all anymore for the issues, and the background and understanding needed to think of them, or any of the people apart from the corporation that is broadcasting to you, is the single biggest killer of all. When all there is, is mind-control-studied advertising techniques giving you the same slogans, and word combinations, and visuals, over and over and over, and never a real response to the complaints of the citizens--because everything is "framing" and selling to the audience, and not education and problem-solving among a society--then there can never be a new possibility for life; everything is not only predetermined, but on tape, pre-recorded. There is no life. We will not get our society back, and the possibility of being able to solve our own problems anymore, until the media is under our control, and run, again, by people who want to educate citizens, and not from any corporation with its own anti-social interests.
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