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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 01:55 PM Original message |
Poll question: A simple and quick poll about "seat belt laws". |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. Kick. |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
2. OTHER |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:05 PM Original message |
Would it be difficult for you to hear |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
16. Honestly? |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. There´s a difference, |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
43. Conflating violating a Constitutional safeguard with a personal preference |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. I disagree |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. I'll try a sincere response to your straw man. |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #56 |
67. There is no public interest in seatbelt laws. Only private. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. To the contrary: the public funds ERs and pays insurance premiums that cover |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
64. Angela, you are so kind hearted, but it actually is done for the insurance |
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The Gunslinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:35 PM Response to Reply #64 |
90. Bingo |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. The public has an interest in whether you wear seatbelt/helmet or not |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Fine |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. You could seek such legislation, though I don't think you'd get far at all. |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I know |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. So that goes back to the people deciding what are reasonable risks and |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
50. A car accident is not murder. The person would be no more a murderer |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 06:47 AM Response to Reply #20 |
94. not to mention, what if the deceased's family decided to sue me |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
26. but it's not just you |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I wear a seatbelt |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
57. well, I agree it's your decision, and that it should be |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. Wow |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 06:44 AM Response to Reply #68 |
93. ok - I admit the headlight thing was hyperbole in traffic |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
60. The problem has to do with education. |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
75. *ROFL!* Great imitation of a clueless brainwashed right-winger! |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
91. You don't have the unconditional right to drive on a public road |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
3. They are laws designed to protect me from myself, and I object strongly to them. |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Please read message Nr. 4 |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. I buckle up everytime I get in the car. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #21 |
53. It's just another reason for police to stop cars |
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cnk_clark (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
27. Thank you. |
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cnk_clark (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. I agree only... |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I understand your point and totally approve of seat belt awareness. |
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cnk_clark (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. I don't like the laws either. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #38 |
83. Best response ever. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
46. I would suggest the law might actually be more about mitigating the cost to others |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
47. That's not the whole truth. |
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cnk_clark (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
4. As a Paramedic... |
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JackintheGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. It still infringes on my rights |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #7 |
66. I'm afraid I don't understand how wearing a seatbelt... |
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JackintheGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #66 |
74. It's the external force telling me I have to do it. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. If I hit you and you die because you aren't wearing a seat belt, that WILL |
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JackintheGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. If you get in a wreck with me, I'll be wearing my seatbelt |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. There's an outside force telling you... |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Question? How many of those wrecked cars have airbags? Thanks in advance! |
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cnk_clark (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. There are more and more with airbags.... |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. tragic story |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
61. What a very sad story. I am sorry for the loss of your co-worker. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. then you educate and teach and encourage.... for people to chose seatbelts |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
40. Word...and welcome to DU! |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
73. Sounds like common sense to me |
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NoGOPZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
5. Other. Effective means for insurance companies to reduce claim payments nt |
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stellanoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
6. Yeah we get fined 50 bucks per every unrestrained individual |
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JackintheGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Bingo! |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
65. Or in the bus? |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. One of the reasons it was suggested NOT to put seat belts on buses |
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Fireweed247 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
31. and with no supervision |
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cnk_clark (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
32. Actually seat belts are not as important in school busses. |
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stellanoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. that's good to know |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
58. Busses work differently. |
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stellanoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Yeah post #32 explained it quite well also. |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
10. My husband and I were just talking about this the other day.... |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Can you imagine that there are police officers |
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maui9002 (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Agree, and I don't know a single person who's been cited |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #22 |
51. I actually got cited a couple of years ago. |
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cnk_clark (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
41. Hey what about me???? |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
54. LOL, too funny! |
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cnk_clark (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
34. I think it is a law for people who lack understanding of physics. |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
84. And to think... |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. I believe the seat belt law saves lives. I also belive it's to save insurance comapanies money. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
12. Other: The public foots the bill for the costs of not using belts, so there is an |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I agree, rights and responsibilities go hand in hand. |
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cnk_clark (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
36. Very well put Mondo Joe. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
30. Other: I will tell you why |
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Fireweed247 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
33. Do you honestly believe the "people" demanded that Congress pass this law? |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
55. If you call State Farm, Farmers, Allstate and such "people" |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
85. Mandatory insurance sucks |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #33 |
86. Apparently that's how some {choose to} perceive it |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
44. My best friend in High School went through the windshield |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
45. Other: Auto insurance companies donate money, get bill to force customers to do something |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
48. Drunk drivers should have their seatbelts confiscated. n/t |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
52. Other |
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NV Whino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
62. I only buckle my seat belt when driving to the Olive Garden. |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
63. It's a common sense law because seat belt saves lives, and |
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DangerDave921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. LOL |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
71. My seat belt Nazi brother in law was saved once when he took his off |
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windbreeze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
72. Other.... |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
76. The pathetic whining about 'infringement on my rights' is SO American! |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. "you'll never make ME grow up"! I think that's what many of them are really |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #78 |
96. ROFL! That's a good one! I keep thinking: "what right are you talking about?" |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:09 AM Response to Reply #76 |
92. I agree with you. |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. And since when is it a right to give other people a trauma because you refuse to wear a seat belt? |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
81. Great video on this. Must watch. |
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Throd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
82. I don't want to be injured by your flying corpse. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
87. I think cops and emt's are tired of scrapping people off the pavement. |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
89. Other |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 06:48 AM Response to Original message |
95. Seat belt laws was wrote by INSURANCE COMPANIES. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
98. Damn Glibertarians. |
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