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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 03:18 PM
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This RFK multiple shooter story deserves wider discussion... I want to know what really happened!
Guy on MSNBC (with that cackling whore Nora O'Donnell) says that the fatal wound that killed RFK was fired from a .22 caliber "Cadet" handgun that was held one and one half inches away from his skull.

Uhh...that means it could not have been Sirhan-Sirhan who was much further away at the time.

America -
We keep our heads buried in the sand (or sofas) so we don't have to ask any "uncomfortable" questions from our government and our leaders.

In the meantime...
"We're # 1!"
That's all we know.
What a hand-job country we are.

Why is it that only great (and potentially great) Democratic leaders and men of peace are assassinated and have Anthrax cheerfully delivered to their offices?
Anyone?

Why do we not care what really happened to JFK or RFK or MLK?
Why don't we care period?

I can only imagine what kind of country I would be living in right now had all these people had the opportunity to live out full and complete lives...

I know one thing for sure.
We would have never had to endure a single day of life under a Bush regime.
Father or dimwitted-ass son.

And I guess that's the point.

This story stinks...something happened here and the "official story" ain't never worked for me.

I want to know what happened.




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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 03:18 PM
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1. I cannot agree more!!!!!
Recommended!!!!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 03:21 PM
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2. and do you believe some folks actually believe it's all one big coincidence
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 03:45 PM by seemslikeadream


"Coincidence Theory: By sheer chance things just happen repeatedly and coincidentally to benefit their interests without any conscious connivance by them, which is most uncanny. There is also: Stupidity Theory, Innocence Theory, Momentary Aberration Theory, Incompetence Theory, Unintended Consequences Theory and Innocent Cultural Proclivities Theory."

- Michael Parenti
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 03:39 PM
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7. does he know the difference between "sheer" and "shear"?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 03:46 PM
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10. my bad
I got that quote from an audio, thanks
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TooBigaTent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 03:23 PM
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3. Only when repukes start getting killed will "comspiracy" theories become legitimate
topics for discussion and investigation.

But then, leftt-thinking people do not do assassination. Only property damage, if that. Mostly just ineffective marches and other feel-good exercises in futility.
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sergeiAK Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 03:36 PM
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6. Left thinking people don't do assasinations?
Uhhh, like the Bolshevik Revolution and ensuing killing of Tsar Nicholas and his family? Or Stalin, who killed enough of his own governmental officials we have no accurate count to this day?

Did I miss something?
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TooBigaTent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 03:43 PM
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8. Just list the last ten political assassinations and tell me which victims were liberal.
Going back to early LAST century is like saying the repuke party is more racially advanced because Lincoln freed the slaves.

No longer relevant.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:29 PM
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17. stalin was no lefty
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RockaFowler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 03:26 PM
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4. Aren't there videos of the shooting??
I thought there was a video that shows Sirhan shooting RFK. I may be wrong, because it has been a while since I saw the video.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 03:45 PM
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9. Here's something recent from the Guardian (UK), calling for re-opening investigation
New evidence challenges official picture of Kennedy shooting


The official record states that senator Robert F Kennedy, like his brother before him, was killed by a crazed lone gunman. But the assassination of a man who seemed to embody so much hope for a bitterly divided country embroiled in an unpopular war still troubles this nation.

Little about the official explanation of the events at the Ambassador Hotel on June 5 1968 makes sense. Now a new forensic analysis of the only audio recording of the fatal shots has given new weight to a controversial theory that there were in fact two shooters, and that the man convicted of Kennedy's killing — Sirhan Sirhan - did not fire the fatal shots.

Following his victory speech to supporters after clinching a tight democratic primary victory in California, Kennedy left the podium in the Embassy ballroom to address a press conference. <...snip...>

But the lone gunman explanation has always looked shaky. The autopsy of Kennedy's body suggested that all four shots that hit him came from behind, and powder marks on his skin showed they must have been from close range.

But Sirhan was in front of Kennedy when he fired, and after shooting two shots was overcome by hotel staff, who pinned him to a table. Also, Sirhan fired eight shots in total, yet 14 were found lodged around the room and in the victims.

"There is no doubt in our minds that no fewer than 14 shots were fired in the pantry on that evening and that Sirhan did not in fact kill Senator Kennedy," said Robert Joling, a forensic scientist who has been involved with the Kennedy case for nearly 40 years. He and Van Praag have published a book on the killing this week entitled "An Open and Shut Case".

The inconsistencies in the case have bred numerous conspiracy theories, including the involvement of the CIA and the idea that Sirhan - who claims not to remember the shooting and pleaded insanity at his trial - was a "Manchurian Candidate" assassin who was hypnotically programmed to kill the senator.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/feb/22/kennedy.assassination
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 03:33 PM
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5. so do I. the official story, just like the murder of his brother, has always
seemed like so much bs to me.

a man just HAPPENED to be standing waiting, with a gun, in an area where RFK WASN'T going to be? don't know about the rest of you, but, frankly, there isn't enough alcohol in the world to make my brain that stupid.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 03:53 PM
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11. Also, there's a tape of the young campaign volunteer who saw two people
coming out of the back entrance of the hotel saying, "We shot him."

On the tape, she's being interrogated by the L.A. police and insisting that she heard what she heard. The police are trying to persuade her to give up her story and "let the Senator rest in peace."

I wonder where she is now (she'd be in her late fifties or early sixties) and if she'd be willing to tell us what she really saw that day.

Oh, and many of the LAPD's files on the RFK assassination were destroyed, the excuse being, "Our archives are too crowded."

So...they...throw....out...the...files...of...one...of...the...most...historically....important...cases...that
...ever...happened...on...their....turf? :wtf:
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democraticinsurgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 03:54 PM
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12. Watch the DVD "RFK Must DIe"
A very even handed investigation that ultimately fingers a true conspiracy between CIA, LAPD and others.

http://www.rfkmustdie.com/

Since this DVD was released, there's an audio tape that has surfaced that indicates more than 8 shots and points to an LAPD "bodyguard" who was in a perfect position to be the real assassin, while Sirhan was left to flail about with random gunshots in a completely hypnotized state.

Connect the dots, folks. JFK/RFK/MLK/Wellstone/9-1l etc etc etc. These are all government actions perpetrated on the American people with the purpose of consolidating power and eliminating democracy as it should be.

Thanks for posting the OP, by the way.

Check out the 9/11 dungeon for more on the RFK tape.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:00 PM
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13. But rest assured
they're telling us the honest to Gawd truth about what went down on 9/11.
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:02 PM
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14. I believe a show on the History Channel

Blamed the security guard directly behind Bobby to the right. It showed he did it accidentally. He did own a .22. The story I watched made sense to me of all this for the first time. It was on about a month ago.

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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:14 PM
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15. Good to see some MSM coverage on this.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:17 PM
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16. They dont kill our leaders anymore- they bury them with negative media...
Out-right killing is too obvious now-a-days.

My point is they wont need an "official story" anymore...
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:38 PM
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19. like Kucinich
...although his brother Perry Kucinich died mysteriously shortly after Kucinich announced he would introduce legislation to Impeach Bush. This might be how the Government mafia is working these days...
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 04:58 PM
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18. If the media repeats something enough, it becomes truth to many!
I have to clear things up with my mother allot because she believes what the television says and when I tell her anything different, she argues with me using the media as her source. Allot of people say they don't trust the media, government and politicians but those are the same people that call me a conspiracy theorist or crazy, when I try to inform them on any facts that the media doesnt cover(which is usually the truth and the important facts). For American to survive, we need the so called "news" stations to disappear. Too many people are brainwashed by the MSM without even noticing it.

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emperor124 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:23 AM
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20. No Way
How does a man get 14 shots off at the front running Democratic nominee and no one stop him? It's ridiculous. Gotta be a conspiracy.
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