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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:32 PM
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"...we face a Vietnam-style collapse"
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Not good.
Not good at all.

Go to Hell neoCONS.
Fuck you George Bush.
Burn in Hades Cheney.
:grr: :mad:

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US commanders admit: we face a Vietnam-style collapse

Elite officers in Iraq fear low morale, lack of troops and loss of political will
Simon Tisdall
Thursday March 1, 2007



An elite team of officers advising the US commander, General David Petraeus, in Baghdad has concluded that they have six months to win the war in Iraq - or face a Vietnam-style collapse in political and public support that could force the military into a hasty retreat.

The officers - combat veterans who are experts in counter-insurgency - are charged with implementing the "new way forward" strategy announced by George Bush on January 10. The plan includes a controversial "surge" of 21,500 additional American troops to establish security in the Iraqi capital and Anbar province.

But the team, known as the "Baghdad brains trust" and ensconced in the heavily fortified Green Zone, is struggling to overcome a range of entrenched problems in what has become a race against time, according to a former senior administration official familiar with their deliberations.

"They know they are operating under a clock. They know they are going to hear a lot more talk in Washington about 'Plan B' by the autumn - meaning withdrawal. They know the next six-month period is their opportunity. And they say it's getting harder every day," he said.

MORE:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,2023865,00.html
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:41 PM
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1. This article attempts to blame those that oppose the war for its coming failure
Typical Vietnam era bullshit from the same guys who did it the first time.

I really hope this country learns from Vietnam and Iraq in that we need to incarcerate, exile or execute those that start illegal wars, or they will just come back thirty years later and do it again.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 10:06 PM
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2. Yep.
But blaming those who opposed the war while also silencing and belittling them won't work. Peace movement? What peace movement? I didn't see them on the news!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 10:17 PM
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3. It was a guaranteed debacle from the very start.
Edited on Thu Mar-01-07 10:18 PM by TahitiNut
An invasion and occupation based on lies and frauds with an outcome absolutely certain to result in a decades-long catastrophe.

Viet Nam was a 'miscalculation' in comparison, despite the ultimate death toll - which might eventually be surpassed.
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