Suicide side effect Tamiflu?

[undergroundpanther]

JAPANESE health authorities are investigating a flu medicine that is also available in Australia after a teenager jumped 11 storeys to his death after taking the drug. It was the 18th juvenile fatality linked to Tamiflu in 17 months.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/health/bird-flu-vaccine-linked-to-18-teenage-suicides-in-japan/2007/02/28/1172338708146.html

[Nite Owl]

1. What?

"The Swiss manufacturer, Roche, says the rate of deaths and psychiatric disturbances among people taking its medication is no higher than for flu sufferers generally. It denies there is evidence of a direct correlation between the drug and the fatalities."

I've heard of people dying from the flu complications but since when does it cause people to commit suicide? It doesn't even make sense.

Was Rummy's company involved with this drug or was that someone else?

[NYC]

2. Now that you mention it, I vaguely remember

that Rumsfeld would profit if people took drugs because of the bird flu. I think the drug people were stocking up on was Tamiflu.

[kurth]

3. Rumsfeld held a stake in Gilead Sciences Inc. worth $5 million to $25 million

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Donald_Rumsfeld

[Nite Owl]

9. So it was him

The delay is perhaps related to the controversy over property rights to the Tamiflu patent. See Dr. Joseph Mercola's "Who Owns the Rights on Tamiflu: Rumsfeld To Profit From Bird Flu Hoax," Global Research, October 26, 2005: "Since Rumsfeld holds major portions of stock in Gilead, he will handsomely profit from the scare tactics of the government that is being used to justify the purchase of $2 billion of Tamiflu."


No end to their profiting on all their tactics, what a web they have woven. Amazing that the 'media' just isn't able to connect the dots and yet impeaching Bill Clinton took weeks of air time and Anna Nicole is the top story today.

[Rainscents]

4. Thanks for this info!

[Horse with no Name]

5. I took amantadine which is also an anti-flu preparation

I had severe central nervous system side effects. Felt very disconnected and out-of-body...had a hard time walking.
This wouldn't surprise me at all.

[undergroundpanther]

6. I took Prednisone

To stop the inflammation in my throat. Because I got huge bone spurs in my spine in my neck, if my throat swells my esophagus gets scraped against the spurs if I swallow. So the doc has to stop swelling anytime I get a pissed off throat to preserve my esophagus.

Prednisone is not an anti viral drug, but that drug made me loopy as hell. it was very weird and emotionally disturbing the effects it had on me. I don't feel like myself on prednisione
After taking Prednisone a couple of times,I really was convinced some drugs not related to moods or anything like that really can have side effects that can make you go psycho or suicidal, and suddenly too..

Drugs that can make you loopy include some anti psychotics.May you never experience akathasia(sp?).That side effect almost drove me to attempt suicide in the hospital it was such irritating, maddening, torment..


And I had a suicide side effect from Paxil an anti depressant. That drug caused me to run out in front of a mac truck. The truck stopped before hitting me, about a yard shy of contact.I was dazed for a second tranced out, out of it as I was watching the truck barrel twords me and brake..Than I snapped out of it when I realized I was standing in the middle of the road, So I ran to the side, and left the area. I didn't know what else to do..It happened when I was walking near my apartment to go get groceries, this overpowering urge came. It wasn't even like I chose to attempt suicide consciously, it was like I was compelled to do it. It was almost like my brain was not my own,for a minute, it was on auto self destruct,and I was not able to stop my own body from stepping in front of that truck.

It was a weird and strange experience. I stopped taking paxil that day. Called my doc and told him what happened to me and told him I just threw out the Paxil, no more...because it freaked me out that I almost died that way.

[Horse with no Name]

7. Actually there is a steroid induced psychosis

that some patients get from prednisone and other steroids.
I had a patient many years ago that was very young--late teens. He had a disease called Wegener's Granulomatosis and part of the therapy for this disease is long-term steroid use. At that time, that was one of the only treatment modalities available (unsure if this is still the case since that was the only patient I ever had that had it).
He would have horrible psychotic episodes and was admitted to the psych unit several times for severe episodes.
When he was early twenties, he opted to quit taking the steroids because he didn't want to live like that. Without the steroids, he knew he would die and was willing to die rather than experience that.
It was a very sad case.

[talkinghead]

8. All I remember

is that Tamiflu kicked the shit out of my flu. I was well so fast that I didn't even have to crack open my bottle of Hydrocodone until I was ready to employ it in more "recreational" uses.