Freeptards orgasming over death of lady who wouldn't get abortion to save her life

[Proud2BAmurkin]

Sick fucks. Their ideal woman is a dead one. They call her the personification of motherhood, guess you have to ask the 4 young kids she left behind.

On edit the point is the Freepturds want this or prison to be her only choice.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1794260/posts

To: wagglebee
What an amazing woman...



5 posted on 03/02/2007 3:05:52 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: wagglebee
What an incredible story.



10 posted on 03/02/2007 3:09:01 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: wagglebee
The personification of motherhood. God bless her!



16 posted on 03/02/2007 3:13:44 PM PST by veronica
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To: wagglebee
God bless her, her little one, husband/father, and all who love her too. Mother Love personified.



22 posted on 03/02/2007 3:28:55 PM PST by Carolinamom (Whatever you voted for, you did not vote for failure -- President Bush SOTU)
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To: everyone
Outstanding.



32 posted on 03/02/2007 4:06:39 PM PST by California Patriot
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[Demeter]

1. The Only Women The Holy Mother Church Revers Are Martyrs

and it has always been so. The best is a dead virgin, of course.

[Warpy]

5. Actually, it's virgins and martyrs, preferably virginal martyrs.

They only decided women had souls so they could send 'em to hell.

[baldguy]

9. Not so. They revere the Blessed Virgin Mother, like most other ME goddesses from the 1st cent. BCE.

But then, all Catholic mothers are virgins.

[yourout]

20. My mother must have been a virgin mother because 17 year old Catholic...

girls never had sex in the sixtys...yet here I am.


:sarcasm:

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[AnnInLa]

4. yeah, wonder if she's sorry now?

wonder how her parents, husband, other children, friends, view her decision?

[WorldResident]

8. Except for the fact that she did succeed in propogating her genes ...

n/t

[razors edge]

22. Just didn't succeed in

personally protecting them to maturity.

Edit: Should have read the story.

[cali]

25. What nonsense.

She had ovarian cancer- one of the most lethal cancers you can get. Her odds of surviving it were very slim. She made a difficult choice, a deeply personal choice, and I call bullshit on anyone who dumps on her for it.

[BlueIris]

47. I will second that call.

And add "ignorance," "misogyny" and "pure assholishness" to your bullshit. Just when you think you've seen it all on DU...vile.

[northofdenali]

51. That was exactly what I thought. n/t

[Little Wing]

3. Yeah, screw the handful of other kids she left behind

:eyes:

[cali]

28. Right. Because another few months, most of

which she would have been desperately ill, would have made just such a huge difference.

[kdmorris]

30. She lived for a full year after the baby was born

Including a period of remission during the summer of 2006. She didn't choose to die or have the baby. She choose not to have an abortion and have the treatment after her child was born. And the treatment worked. It just didn't work permanently (Ovarian cancer, like Lung cancer has a high mortality rate).

I can't believe some of the responses on this thread. I am quite Liberal and yet, there's a VERY good chance I would have made the same decision as she did.

May she rest in peace. And may her family find peace as well. The BABY didn't kill her. The OVARIAN CANCER killed her. And there's a very good likelihood that the results would have been the same even if she had started her treatment a few months earlier.

[Hav]

41. .

Thanks for providing the context. I didn't want to go over there.
Not directed against the OP as I see the point, but this story is too tragic to politicize it. I agree with those who said that choice works both ways.

Although she did it to save her child, it must have still been a damn hard decision. I really hope that she and her family, knowing that there wasn't much time left, used the year they had in the best way possible to enjoy their life, despite financial troubles.

[Little Wing]

56. I fell victim to the headline, obviously it was intended to enflame the board

[kdmorris]

58. Yeah, I think it was. n/t

[sendero]

6. I thought suicide..

... was against their "religion".

[kdmorris]

31. It wasn't suicide.

Did you read the article?? Her CANCER killed her. And she got treatment after the baby was born. She lived for a year after the baby was born including a period of remission in the Summer of 2006.

[gollygee]

7. It is irresponsible

very irresponsible. Her first responsibility was to the children she'd already created.

[WorldResident]

13. Even if all she was going to was extend her life by a few months by having an abortion?

The lady had cancer here, and she made a choice that's justifiable. She was the judge ... nobody else ... and may she rest in peace.

[gollygee]

19. Oh, yeah in that case

I can see it. It's her choice regardless but if she would have been able to live through to take care of her kids it would be in my opinion an irresponsible choice.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

49. Says Fuckin Who? You? Who The Fuck Are You? She Sacrificed Part Of Her Life To Save The Life Of

another. To call that irresponsible is utter fucking bullshit. Holy shit some people have just fucking lost it here. Completely fucking lost it. Some of the comments in this thread are just plain fucking disgusting.

[cali]

53. Yep. This thread is a disgrace

Some of these comments belong in the DU hall of shame.

[WorldResident]

10. She made her choice and I respect that

On a side note, I believe in a right to die and a right to make medical choices as well.

[wellstone dem]

11. What you said, it was her choice. I respect that. nt

[Proud2BAmurkin]

23. yeah point is being dead is the only choice freeptard respects nt

nt

[WorldResident]

34. Fair enough

n/t

[RB TexLa]

12. Her choice

And her children should respect that.

[Sequoia]

14. And the husband doesn't want any doctor bills but they keep coming.

Guess God didn't tell the doctors to not charge the guy. So, who will care for the children. He'll have to get married again and have some more.

[nebenaube]

15. So I take it the abortion happened anyway?

I mean it's kinda hard to bring a fetus into the world when you're dead.

[Cerridwen]

17. See story in link below

She had the baby in Jan. 2006 - then underwent chemo - then had several surgeries...

[Cerridwen]

16. For those who don't want to go to that site or the one it linked to

I found this story at a "mainstream" media website:

link to article

Community Helps Grieving Family
Feb 25, 2007 08:23 AM

FRANKLIN, Tenn.- Joshua Carlisle is a single father of four young children.

Last Saturday, he buried his wife Jennifer Ann "Jenny" Carlisle, just weeks after her 31st birthday.

"She was a phenomenal woman and there's never gonna be another like her," Joshua Carlisle said of his wife of 10 years. "She was my best friend."

When meeting her, a friend said, "I instantly fell in love with her."

Jenny Carlisle died on Feb. 15 of ovarian cancer. She discovered the disease in 2005 while pregnant with her fourth child. Among the options the family had was to terminate the pregnancy but they didn't.

--snip--

[Beaverhausen]

33. Thanks for posting that. Ovarian Cancer is almost always fatal, right?

I doubt she would have lived much longer had she had the abortion.

I too respect her choice.

Prayers for her family.

[Cerridwen]

39. I feel very sorry for the father of those 4 children and the children.

He's already worrying that the bills just keep coming in. Those same people the OP talks about, will have little sympathy for him should he have to file bankruptcy or look to our current social "net" services.

I don't know that her choice would have made a difference one way or the other. I am glad she was able to make the choice she and her family thought best.

I'm not sure of the mortality rates for ovarian cancer.

What a sad state of affairs all around.

[malaise]

18. They'll probably send

Foley or Haggard to look after them.

[cali]

40. For pete's sake

She had ovarian cancer. Do you have any clue how lethal it is? She found out about the cancer when she was two months pregnant. Doctors told her that aborting might extend her life- not save it, extend it. She made a deeply personal choice, and I find the nasty comments in this thread, as disturbing as the mass adulation for all the wrong reasons, over in freeperville. Talk about two sides to the same coin.

[gratefultobelib]

46. I've appreciated your comments in this thread. They've helped me understand the situation

much more clearly. Thanks.

[cali]

54. You're most welcome n/t

[Cabcere]

21. How tragic.

:( I feel bad for her little kids, who are going to have to grow up motherless (albeit with another sibling they wouldn't have had otherwise). So sad. :cry:

[Gormy Cuss]

24. It is sad. The mother had a tough choice to make.

I would have supported her choice either way but I feel badly for her children.

[bicentennial_baby]

27. Same here...on both counts

That's what "choice", in this context, is all about. People may not agree with it, but it's her body, and we should respect her decision. Just like we respect the decisions of women who get abortions, for whatever reason they feel it's necessary.

And yes, I feel horrible for her children too...

:pals:

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[Warren DeMontague]

29. I'm not going to rip on this woman. She had a choice to make, and she made it. Her business.

And the operative word there is CHOICE.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

35. Not ripping this woman, ripping the Freepturds nt

nt

[Beaverhausen]

38. She is dead from cancer, NOT from not having an abortion

did you even read the article?

[Horse with no Name]

32. One thing we always have to remember

Choice works two ways. I would never impose my beliefs on her and ask the same in return.
My prayers to her family.

[bicentennial_baby]

36. Bingo

[AlCzervik]

37. exactly.

[Warren DeMontague]

42. I'll second that emotion.

For me, it's all about the individual's right to make decisions regarding his or her own body. That applies to reproductive choice, that applies to end-of-life decisions, that applies to pain management for the sick and terminal, and that applies to the idea that consenting adults who choose to ingest 'forbidden' chemicals should be left the hell alone as long as they're not hurting anyone else.

It's an across-the-board principle.

[tammywammy]

44. Exactly

My prayers to the family as well.

[MoonRiver]

43. Abortion is a personal choice.

That woman chose to not get an abortion. Another woman may choose to get one. This is what CHOICE means.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

45. I Find What She Did To Be Beautiful As Well In Its Own Way. Is There A Problem With That?

I want to make one solid declaration and then move on:

CHOICE MEANS SOME GET TO CHOOSE TO NOT ABORT TOO. That was her choice. She risked her life for her child. Why the hell this unselfish CHOICE from this woman is now a source of seeming animosity or mockery from some is disgusting in my opinion.

God rest her soul and God bless her family.

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[BlooInBloo]

50. That's the kind of control over a woman they DREAM for - control over her life and her death.

[otherlander]

52. Isn't the point of being pro-choice

that you don't condemn those who have abortions, even if you are so personally against it that you would never have one yourself?

[Fountain79]

55. Not to sound like a broken record...

but it was her choice. She chose to not have the abortion and knew the risks involved. I personally don't like the concept of an abortion and I do see it as a baby and not simply a fetus. That still doesn't mean I oppose the idea or the legality of abortion as a medical treatment.

[MrSlayer]

57. Misleading headline.

The choice wasn't "have an abortion and live or carry to term and die", she was going to die no matter what. She chose to carry her child to term instead of aborting it so she could live a short time longer. Seems to me that it wasn't too hard of a choice to make. In my opinion she did the right thing. Good for her.

[Initech]

59. Culture of life, my ass.

Sick motherfuckers. :argh:

[rebecca_herman]

60. It was HER choice

The responses of the posters on FR are disturbing, but so are some of the comments here. It was this woman's right to decide whether to have an abortion, she viewed the fetus as her child worth saving which was her right to believe, rather then aborting and still not being guaranteed a cure. She had a difficult decision and her choice should be respected, not mocked. It is pretty sick the way she's being "worshipped" on FR though, where she would have been called a murderer there if she had the abortion and did manage to survive long-term.

[rasputin1952]

61. This decision, like all decisions of this nature, was deeply personal

and her decision was based on her family, her faith and herself. I have no dog in this fight, I respect the woman for making what she saw as the correct decision; and w/the mortality rate ovarian CA as what it is, she likely would have died at about the same time if she had the abortion.

What I find dreadful is the absurd responses some of those on FR made. If they were in the same position, they might act completely differently. What they see as a "sacrifice" of a woman for her principles, I see as a brave woman who stuck to her principles. She need not be sanctified by the RW, most who post over there are cowards anyway; "sacrifice" is what others do.

May this young woman Rest In Peace, she earned that right.