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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:39 PM
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Why do conservatives "get off" on hate?
I'm listening to Mike Malloy play the tape of Ann Coulter at the Conservative Political Action Conference saying "faggot" and "Our Blacks are better than their blacks," and almost more disturbing than her comments is the crowd of cheering robots in the audience. It's what you'd imagine a Neo-Nazi rally to be like.
And then compare that to the progressive Take Back America conference, where there's also lots of cheering, but over things like pledges for universal health care, restoring the country's reputation, helping rebuild New Orleans and equality for all Americans.
What's wrong them? :shrug:
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:43 PM
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1. alot of them have had it reinforced and taught to them with 20 years
of Limbaugh style programing. It's been ingrained into them that it's a war and the nastier the better. To be nice is to be a wimp.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:39 PM
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30. Exactly... it's learned behavior
Many of their parents instilled white fright=>hate in them. Many others learned it from peers. It was a way they bonded and circled against all they perceive as evil.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:44 PM
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2. they appeal to the lowest common denominator. I think a lot of conservatives
were haters before they became a republican. The gop figured out a way to attract the disaffected Michael Savage demographic.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:45 PM
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4. Bingo
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:45 PM
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3. What's more disturbing is the GOP INVITED HER TO SPEAK
right along side all the Repuke prez candidates.

They knew what she was going to say and they wanted everyone to hear her say it. Amazing.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:48 PM
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6. and everyone of them should be associated with her remarks as often as possible
until they disavow her and the closet klan rally known as CPAC.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:52 PM
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8. Associate her with the 'C' in CPAC
Conservative = Gay bashing, hate speech, etc.

If CPAC is smart they'll apoligise for her remarks. They wont of course, because they are not smart.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:56 PM
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13. cpac will never apologize but i expect no less from them, the real test is
to see if any of the republics running for the nomination will have the balls to come out an condemn her and them.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:57 PM
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15. I'm thinking it's too late. They should have issued press releases right away.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:59 PM
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18. well imo they're fucked and not in a good way. her comments were not the only
disgusting ones and thanks to the youtubes many people that didn't even know about cpac will have a chance to find out what it is. John Mccain with all his pandering to the right may come out the only conservative winner today.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:55 PM
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12. Again it's not amazing to me at all
THIS is what we are up against. Those filled with utter hatred of secular humanity. That's your Republican party. That's how far it's gone down to this. A fundamentalist American plague.
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:46 PM
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5. Because, as Bill Maher would say, they're so bad
at sex. They have to get off on something.
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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:48 PM
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7. Silly Rabbit, Those Aren't Conservatives
They're anti-liberals.

Please understand, there IS a difference.

Conservatives are, well, conservative.

Anti-liberals predicate their very existence on hating someone for holding a point of view different than their own.

If that's the basis of your ideology, it's no wonder they "get off" on hate.

Without it, they cease to be.
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:53 PM
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Effing brilliant!
I never thought of it that way. That's effing brilliant.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:56 PM
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14. Are you saying most of the Repuke candidates aren't conservative?
They spoke today at the CPAC rally, right before Ann called Edwards a faggot.

Can you name one true conservative politician? There are very few left, I can count them on one hand.
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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:02 PM
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20. I Think the Repuke Candidates Are Only Mouthing the Words
They don't have an ounce of conviction in anything they say.

But it doesn't matter.

The electorate is filled with 'conservatives' who think inside-out.

If a liberal says it, it must be wrong. It must be ridiculed. It must be hated.

I agree with another poster. 20 years of Limbaughization has blinded half of America in one eye.
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tech3149 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:13 PM
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24. Listening to Thom Hartmann broadcasting from CPAC
He had some very good conversations with attendees. One thing was very apparent, that the conservative and related objectivist concepts have been severely distorted from there original concepts. The ideas have been corrupted by the influence of wealthy resources that would use the concepts to support ideas that sustain their own wealth. That's the biggest reason that todays so called " conservative" agenda wants to destroy the public education system. It makes it all that much easier to sway the minds of the masses to believe the illogical swill they sell. One thing was clear, even thinking conservatives and objectivists have more in common with progressive ideas than those that lead todays "conservative revolution".
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:53 PM
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9. I have been wondering something similar but what bothers
me more is that these type of hate mongers and loud shriekers get alot of airplay with people. I would like to know why so many people listen to Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, John Gibson, Sean Hannity and doofs like that. They are not in any way entertaining even if you ignore the politics. The fact that people seem to eat this crap up scares me to death.:hide:
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:55 PM
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11. They seek justification for the selfishness of the GOP
and the criminal war W and the bushots started.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:53 PM
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10. Because they are filled with hate?
What's so complicated about it? Liberals yack yack yack. But this brand of nutjobs really realy hate YOU. They hate you for being gay and expecting RIGHTS and talking about it, they hate you for being poor and complaining about it, they hate you for everything they are not. Which is White and mostly Christian. And they even hate you if you aren't Gay and are Christian but think that those that aren't like you deserve equal rights. Then you are a traitor and then hate you even more!

I wish she would slur Jews then we would see how far she would go. "That Feingold, what a kike!" Hillarity insues. Ohhh nooo nooo no..hey ANN, Hitler hated the "faggots" too. You are in good company.

I think once we realize you can't make nice with bullies and talk them out of it, this country might have a chance. Until then if it reminds you of a neo-Nazi rally that's because that's what it is!
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:17 PM
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26. Every time that she comes into my mind I think that her perfect
job would've been a guard in the women's unit at Buchenwald.

I've given up on trying to 'play nice' as in my neck of the woods the verbal 2 X 4 seems to startle some people. My mother told me in a phone conversation one day approx. 3 or 4 yrs. ago of her admiration for the Coultergeist. I went off on her with some of Anthrax Annie's more memorable quotes and then I printed off more and mailed them to her. She told me later that she had no idea of what she was all about, she'd just seen her on TV.

Not that was an excuse to me for her gullibility for the sum total of Anthrax, but when she saw how awful she is, she hasn't mentioned her since.
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tech3149 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:57 PM
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16. I don't think that way so I can't be sure
I expect that a lot of it comes from the social/supportive environment in their formative years. Those that I've known in my life who thought that way were either discounted for their failures or shortcomings or constantly heard their parents and influential elders blaming all their problems on others. I haven't lived a life of luxury or privilege, but my POV is drastically different from people I grew up with. For that, I will bless and care for my parents till the day I die.
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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:58 PM
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17. .
Because they are miserable people.
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:01 PM
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19. Because its all they've got
They don't want people to actually think about the issues.
If I could force Freddie Freeper to deflect his attention from the ESPN truck pull marathon long enough to register the fact that republicon occupation means declining pay for him, not one of them would cast a republican vote.
I must admit it was brilliant for these evil people to pitch to the IQ<100 crowd.

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:03 PM
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21. they have no soul...
and their self-image is wrapped up in all the bullshit that's been handed down through generations. The knee-jerk hostility is fear...just like in grade school.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:05 PM
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22. Persecution complex.
Results of their actions are always somebody else's fault.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:10 PM
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23. Because they have shriveled up little souls, and they think that EVERY failure
in their life was "caused" by someone else, so they must hate everyone else who "might" be a threat to them. They nursed at the teat of bitterness and envy for so long, they believe that everything MUST be theirs and theirs alone.
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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:15 PM
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25. Thom Hartmann summed it up in one word...fear;
It comes down to weather you believe that humans are basically good or bad. If you believe that human nature is basically good, you don't fear your neighbor. But if you have sold your soul for money and will do anything to get it, or you are self-loathing due to being told that you are bad by nature, you feel that others are also bad and you fear them. Thus you begin to hate all those not like you or those who are liberated and can enjoy being who they are. To me, this explains allot of the difference in the two behaviors ( conservative vs liberal).
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:27 PM
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27. Um, that's one of their defining qualities.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:28 PM
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28. Plenty of people who get off on hate in here too
Edited on Fri Mar-02-07 10:30 PM by BoneDaddy
they just find a difffernt tribe to hate. Sometimes I marvel at how easily it would be just to "remove" one label and "insert" another and how some people in here are, at times, saying the same thing as the freepers. But whether you are a hating freeper or a hating liberal, the hate is the same, the dehumanization is the same as is the justifications. Quite sad and unconscious.

For the freepers it is ok to hate anyone of color, who is poor, an immigrant, who is gay, who is perceived as "unpatriotic" etc. yet for many in here it is ok to hate men, "white people", the rich, "breeders" etc. Each one has their sacred cows and each group has their demonizations. We never fucking learn, we just continue the cycle.

Edited: And each group thinks they are correct, right and justified in their assumptions.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:36 PM
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29. It's easier
It's far easier to sit back and hate, and to instill hatred in others, than it is to care.

Caring takes time, effort and money. Conservatives don't want to give up any of that--particularly the money.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:43 PM
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31. Yesterday a cspan caller had it right about conservatives,
He said they are nothing but hateful racists. They can't be racist against Blacks anymore so they switched it against Liberals.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:52 PM
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34. "They can't be racist against Blacks anymore"
Not outwardly, at least. Instead they do that through proxies like Rush Limbaugh.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:46 PM
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32. The GOP has carefully cultivated the ignorant, arrogant and bigoted vote
That's what all the Limbaugh/Fox News propaganda has been about -- giving these people irrational "logic" and rhetoric to support their false sense of superiority.

Those are the people who would have been at Nazi rallies -- that's the hidden face of the GOP.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:48 PM
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33. Cause that's all they have,
baby. They ain't got nothin'
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:54 PM
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35. because they feel insecure
they over-compensate by attacking others .

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