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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 01:45 AM
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Coulter reference to Edwards as "faggot" gives rise to questions for media
In a March 2 speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), right-wing pundit Ann Coulter said she "can't really talk about" Democratic presidential candidate and former Sen. John Edwards (NC) because "you have to go into rehab if you use the word 'faggot.' " The CPAC audience applauded her comment. Coulter's comments, which aired on CSPAN, were also documented by the weblog Think Progress. It was not the first time Coulter has smeared a prominent Democrat with a homophobic epithet, and it is not the first time that Coulter has ridiculed Edwards. Will the media call on Republican presidential hopefuls attending the CPAC conference to denounce her smear?

From Coulter's March 2 speech:

COULTER: Oh, and I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate, John Edwards. But it turns out that you have to go into rehab if you use the word "faggot," so I'm -- so I'm kind of at an impasse, can't really talk about Edwards. So I think I'll just conclude here and take your questions.

As Media Matters for America documented, Coulter called former Vice President Al Gore a "total fag" on the July 27 edition of MSNBC's Hardball, claiming immediately that the comment was "a joke." At the end of the interview, host Chris Matthews said: "Thanks for coming on. And a smart lady. Her book's called Godless. Sometimes being smart isn't enough for a civil discourse. We'd love to have her back."

Coulter previously ridiculed Edwards in a 2003 column for frequently talking about the death of his 16-year-old son, Wade:

Edwards has talked about his son's death in a 1996 car accident on "Good Morning America," in dozens of profiles and in his new book. ("It was and is the most important fact of my life.") His 1998 Senate campaign ads featured film footage of Edwards at a learning lab he founded in honor of his son, titled "The Wade Edwards Learning Lab." He wears his son's Outward Bound pin on his suit lapel. He was going to wear it on his sleeve, until someone suggested that might be a little too "on the nose."

If you want points for not using your son's death politically, don't you have to take down all those "Ask me about my son's death in a horrific car accident" bumper stickers? Edwards is like a politician who keeps announcing that he will not use his opponent's criminal record for partisan political advantage. I absolutely refuse to mention the name of my dearly beloved and recently departed son killed horribly in a car accident, which affected me deeply, to score cheap political points.

As Think Progress noted, prior to Coulter's speech, Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney said, "I'm happy to learn also that after you hear me, you're going to from Ann Coulter. That is a good thing. Oh yeah!" Romney then referenced members of the "mainstream media" whom he said were in attendance:

ROMNEY: I'm happy to learn also that after you hear me, you're going to from Ann Coulter. That is a good thing. Oh yeah! Now, I think it's always very important to get the views of moderates. Now, I know there are a few here from the mainstream media, and they're probably surprised that we're here in these record numbers.

During her CPAC speech, Coulter apparently endorsed Romney, saying, "I think he's probably our best candidate":

AUDIENCE MEMBER: What do you think of Governor Romney's candidacy for presidency?

COULTER: What do I think of Governor Romney's candidacy for presidency? I think he's probably our best candidate. I mean, I think it is fair to say -- and this is coming from someone who supported Pete DuPont, Alan Keyes, Pat Buchanan, Steve Forbes. So, you know, it's not like I won't go for an underdog. But I think we have to be serious about this, and I think our choice is among Gingrich, Giuliani, McCain and Romney. And Giuliani is very, very liberal. When this country gets to the point -- I mean, I have a love letter to him in my current book, Godless. What he did for New York was magnificent. But when this country gets to the point where both presidential candidates support abortion, I think we can hang it up as a country.

And McCain, I think has some problems, because everyone who supports him would have to switch party registrations to vote for him. I love Gingrich. I think he's brilliant. He was crucial, the man for his time. We don't know if he's running for president, but assuming he is, I kind of think his time has passed, and I don't know, you know, it could come back again, like '80s music, but I think his time is over. And you have to say about Romney, he tricked liberals into voting for him. I like a guy -- I like a guy who hoodwinks liberals so easily. And also, the one thing that I have a very soft spot for is that I love Mormons. And the reason why I love Mormons, well, among other things, is -- you may have forgotten this -- Bill Clinton in Utah in 1992 came in third in Utah. Now, that's a fine state.

Coulter also touted Romney's position on gay rights, saying:

COULTER: And of course, if you're working for a Republican candidate, you'll meet some nice heterosexual guys. By the way, before I let that slide, I do want to point out one thing that has been driving me crazy with the media, how they keep describing Mitt Romney's position as being "pro-gays, and that's going to upset right-wingers." Well, you know, screw you, I'm not anti-gay. We're against gay marriage. I don't want gays to be discriminated against. I mean, I think we have, in addition to blacks, I don't know why all gays aren't Republicans. I think we have the pro-gay position, which is anti-crime and for tax cuts. Gays make a lot of money, and they're victims of crime. I mean, the way -- no, they are. They should be with us. But the media portrays us. If they could get away with it, they would start saying, you know, "Mitt Romney, he's pro-civil rights, and that's going to upset conservatives." No. OK. Sorry, go ahead.

The incident at CPAC suggests at least two questions:

Will the media -- including the "mainstream media" figures Romney said attended his speech -- ask Romney whether he will repudiate Coulter's apparent endorsement?

Will the media ask the other Republican presidential candidates and potential candidates participating in CPAC -- including Rudy Giuliani, Newt Gingrich, Duncan Hunter, and Mike Huckabee -- whether they will seek the votes of the CPAC attendees who cheered Coulter's smear of Edwards?

—J.S.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200703030002
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AshevilleGuy Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 01:52 AM
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1. She wonders why all gays are not republicans?
She is out of her fucking mind. Hmmm... I wonder why all Jews were not nazis?? Makes the same amount of non-sense.

Will the media press upon the repuke candidates to repudiate her nonsense? Maybe, a few will for a day or so. It won't have 'legs' unfortunately.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:03 AM
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20. Yeah, didn't you know that all gays make a lot of money?
yeesh.

She truly needs to be admitted somewhere a safe distance from the general public.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 01:54 AM
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2. Coulter gets dumber every time she opens her pie hole.
Like she's condescending to include blacks and gays in the GOP. What a gal! :puke:
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 02:03 AM
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3. "I'm not anti-gay. We're against gay marriage."
I've read the exact same sentiment on this very board.

More and more, I'm thinking I need to arm myself when I go out.
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Pushed To The Left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 05:03 AM
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9. That would be like saying "I'm not racist, but I'm against interracial marriage"
Edited on Sat Mar-03-07 05:04 AM by Pushed To The Left
I find it sad that supporting same-sex marriage is still considered to be a radical position. To me, it's about treating people fairly and equally. I imagine that many of the people who opposed interracial marriage in the past were doing so in the name of "tradition", which goes to show how much of a logical fallacy "traditionalism" truly is.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 02:04 AM
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4. There's been a 100 posts, at least, against Coulter tonight
Coulter called gays "faggots" You can contact Romney at www.mittromney.com
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 02:28 AM
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5. And there should be a thousand. Expose this creature called "coulter"!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 02:49 AM
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 03:11 AM
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7. Does Coulter have a problem about her own sexual identity?
She seems to be obsessed by homosexuality. Do you suppose she is a closet lesbian?
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 05:55 AM
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10. makes ya wonder
and where are the Log Cabin Repugs? Are there any of them left to respond to this? Or are their Gays more twisted than "our" Gays?

The GOP--now OFFICIALLY the #1 Hate Group in America
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bananarepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 06:35 AM
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11. Not with that Addam's-apple! n/t
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 04:38 AM
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8. The Hypocrisy Is Damning...
Edited on Sat Mar-03-07 04:42 AM by KharmaTrain
While I loathe giving Coultergeist the attention she deserves, what she said ranks in my book as one of the greatest slurs in American political "discourse". I rank "faggot" up there with the "n" word and various other ethnic, religious and sexual pejoratives...words intended to harm and dehumanize. There's no positive definition of this word and anyone who uses it does so with the sole intent on flaming intolerance.

Earlier I read about some wingnut website that was counting the use of Carlin's 7 dirty words as a "measure" of how bad various political websites were...and congrats to us...Democratic Underground was far and away the winner since many of us here feel comfortable with throwing words like shit and fuck around in our discourse...but not to attack or shock. Ironically, this site sure wouldn't look at words...especially Repugnican code words that were designed to demonize us and create divisions. Nothing can bring people together like a good hate...and Coultergeist saw that chance and went for it.

It's time we made the word "faggot" the real "f" word. One that should be eliminated from our dialogue just like the "n" word is and castigate anyone who attempt to invoke it as being the bomb thrower they are.

Dr. Dean has already called for ALL Repugnican candidates to denounce this vicious attack. Now let's see if the corporate media picks up Dr. Dean's challenge or take it on their own to demand each candidate to either denounce or embrace what Coultergeist has said. Remember, she didn't slip this out to some open cell phone in a night club...she made this attack at a major political function that she well knew was being broadcast live, worldwide. It was intended to slam not only Edwards, but all of us who support our GLBT brothers and sisters (no matter how much we fight among ourselves).

If the corporate media doesn't denounce this...then we in the blogosphere must denounce the corporate media for being complicit tools of the Repugnicans.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 07:27 AM
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12. So Edwards is a fag because he founded a learning lab in honor of his son.
My god! She should be locked up!
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Jonathan50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 07:38 AM
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14. No one should be prosecuted for their speech just because it is distasteful to others
I'm really surprised to hear a liberal espousing such an illiberal idea.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 07:41 AM
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15. There are times when people abuse their free speech rights.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 07:47 AM
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16. She should be "locked up" in a psychiatric hospital, not jail.
To prevent her from doing further harm to herself or others. Or to our country.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 07:30 AM
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13. I'm beginning to think she is homosexual.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 08:05 AM
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17. Would you completely spell out the "N" word in the title or is it just okay
for the "f" word? Seems hypocritical on this board because I've not seen the "n" word written out too often.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 08:18 AM
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18. I for one would not frequent a board that
felt comfortable 'writing out the n word'. For me, seeing it or hearing it has a strongly negative visceral effect. IMO, which is humble by no means, it is the most vile word in the English language as it historically has accompanied so much hate and violence.

Faggot is another vile word that is building up its own history of violence and hate. As there is longstanding centuries old reference to another f word, it is not unusual for it to be spelled out tho.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:12 AM
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21. the expression "N word" is one of the most juvenile things we have to tolerate n/t
Edited on Sat Mar-03-07 09:12 AM by frogcycle
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NDP Donating Member (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 08:32 AM
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19. The Republicans throw out this crap about Edwards and let it fester because they know
Edited on Sat Mar-03-07 08:35 AM by NDP
that the media won't debate it. I'm trying to scan the morning news shows this morning, and neither network has mentioned it. They should mention it to show the public just how sick MAnn Cunter is. They always bring her on their shows to talk about her books, they should be talking about her comments as well.

Not even the local news shows here in NC's Triangle Region (Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill) have said anything about it. There is a media blackout on this, but if she was promoting a book, the national press would be helping her.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 11:54 AM
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22. That woman has so much hate in her, I wish someone would draft
her and put her on the front lines where she can shoot all the dark skinned people she likes.




I give that over-peroxided bitch 30 seconds, but she'll be in her glory.
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