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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 08:00 PM
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Stan Brand: Libby verdict will be the last chapter in Plame case.
Stan Brand, in a piece at Huffington Post, gives his end of game summary on the Libby trial, even though the verdicts are yet to be delivered.

Whatever happens in the Libby case, it is expected in Washington lawyer circles to be the closing legal chapter in the criminal aspect of the Plame affair.


His take on things is interesting, given the particular perch he is observing from. I found myself disagreeing with his predictions more than once.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stanley-m-brand/the-libby-verdict-what-n_b_42473.html
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 08:02 PM
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1. We'll see,
I wonder if he has talked to Fitz about this?
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 08:08 PM
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5. I'm continually amazed
at how disconnected establishment authorities have been in the last few years, compared to the talented amateurs who congregate on the internet.


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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 08:12 PM
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7. I think people should go back and listen to
what Fitz said in the closing days of the trial, hard to tell on this side of the keyboard but it looked like he may be gunning for Darth Cheney, but like I said hard to tell unless you are Fitz.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 08:07 PM
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2. Aren't the Wilson's suing?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 08:07 PM
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3. I guess he could be rightthat it's the end of the CRIMINAL part, but
NOT the end of the Plame case at all! You do remember, Joe & Valerie havea civil case pending, that was puit on hold until the criminal case was over, don't you?

Remember the OJ case? There will be as much pulicity about the civil trial as there was about the criminal one, and the tenticles could streach a LOT farther!

We'll see.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 08:12 PM
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6. Correct.
Which is probably why Brand says the "criminal" aspect.

The civil aspect and political aspects are two whole other kettles of fish. But I'm still not buying the idea that Fitzgerald is done, given his dedication to the rule of law and all the evidence we've seen (not to mention the evidence we haven't seen).
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 08:24 PM
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10. The civil case hasn't been on hold. Motions are pending on whether or not the suit should
be dismissed. A court decision is expected this spring. http://www.wilsonsupport.org/node/72
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 08:43 PM
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12. Of course there are mothions to dismiss! That's the std. procedure
for the defense. It's anybody's best guess if they'll succeed with those motions.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 08:45 PM
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13. My point is, the fact that motions are ongoing in the case means it wasn't put on hold. n/t
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 08:08 PM
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4. and an opening of a new chapter
in the criminal aspect of the "Illegal Invasion of Iraq and Lying to Congress and the UN About WMDs" affair?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 08:36 PM
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11. BINGO! And destroying Plame's network was basic to Cheney's scheme of war for profits
Just the beginning, so long as WE keep asking very embarrassing questions, loud and clear.
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 08:12 PM
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8. I hope there will be a Congressional investigation into the Plame case. nt
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 08:24 PM
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9. You found yourself disagreeing
because you probably never thought of the Iran Contra Hearings as a case of prosecutorial overzealousness like ol' Stan here did.

Opinions are like...well...you know...
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:09 PM
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15. Poor ol' Cap Weinberger.
Subvert the Constitutional separation of powers, and lie to an independent counsel, and all of a sudden people want to make a big deal out of it.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 09:36 PM
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16. Sorry; what I should have said
was "everyone wants to make a federal case out of it".

:hi:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 12:16 AM
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17. Where are they now?


http://www.nndb.com/people/241/000085983/

Went on to marry Danny Sugerman, second manager of The Doors, and the author of the Jim Morrison/Doors biography No One Here Gets Out Alive (He died in 2005.). After a crack addiction, Fawn entered rehab.

"There were 'times when you have to go above the written law.'" -- Fawn Hall
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 08:48 PM
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14. Nope - only the closing legal chapter in the perjury aspect of
the Libby affair...
I think there are more fish to fry and I think some more "conventional wisdom" will, once again, be confounded.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 02:56 PM
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18.  Dem powerstructure is setting up the next 'moving on' from IranContra ala Clinton 1993
Thanks alot Democrats who REFUSE to pay attention to what Dem powerstructure is doing to protect BushInc - - yet again.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 02:58 PM
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19. This ain't over. It's far from over.
Only the subpoenas and eventual indictments of George Bush and Dick Cheney will close this chapter.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 02:59 PM
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20. Mr. Brand is a defense attorney, it appears
I'm viewing his comments as I view the comments of Jeralyn from Talk Left -- with skepticism.

Julie
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