Bob BRINKER just said on the radio that Hugo CHAVEZ *loves* *money*

[UTUSN]

A caller to his radio show used the word "tyrant" in his question, and BRINKER immediately stopped him, saying, "*I* don't call him 'tyrant'. YOU did." The caller agreed, then proceeded with his question, whether Venezuela and Iran would be able to throw the U.S. economy "off" or into whatever negative condition.

BRINKER said that Venezuela and Iran "don't have the clout to do that." Then he went on to say, "Why would Hugo CHAVEZ even WANT to do that? He. Loves. Money. And he would be (shooting himself in the foot) if he could hurt the U.S. economy. Does anybody know that he is involved with one of the biggest oil concerns in this country?"

The caller said, "He loves POWER." BRINKER said, "Money IS power." BRINKER was QUITE MILD in his CHAVEZ comments, did NOT indulge in a stereotypical wingnut TIRADE.

Later on, a caller asked whether politicians should be required to take a course by a leading economist before being allowed to be politicians. Without addressing the abridgment of liberty such a requirement would entail, BRINKER said that ignorance of economics is evident in most/all politicians, saying, "I'm neither for nor against Hillary CLINTON, but her recent criticism of China buying (U.S. Treasury Bills?) was scary, whether it was just populist pandering or whether she really believed it. Why WOULDN'T we be in favor of China using the profits it has made with OUR money to invest it BACK into OUR economy instead of spending it somewhere else?"

Now, I am nowhere knowledgeable about economics. I don't even know anything about BRINKER beyond that he is on my car radio talk show station when I run errands on Saturdays AND THAT HE SOUNDS EVEN KEELED. If somebody here tells me is a wingnut capitalist pig, I'm as likely to believe you as not. If somebody here calls me a freeper-capitalist-DLC-pig, which is more likely than not to happen, you are an ad hominen/DU-rule-breaker.

Now, please, I make no secret that I detest CHAVEZ/CASTRO on the Left as much as I detest PERONistas/BATISTA on the Right. I am pleased when I can find somebody reasonable criticizing any of the named ones, such as CHAVEZ. If you have reasoned discussion points to counter what BRINKER said, fine. But name-calling ME does not further your case. I have voted for EVERY Dem nominee across MANY years---and the nominees have been from a WIDE VARIETY on the ideological spectrum. Just between McGOVERN and LBJ there was quite a chasm (I straddled). So calling me a freeper is just absurd (and immature).


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Bob Brinker
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Bob Brinker is the host of the ABC talk radio show Moneytalk, which has been on the air since 1986. He previously had a show on local radio in the New York area going back to 1982. Brinker includes market timing in the investment newsletter he authors, titled Marketimer, which contains recommendations on no-load mutual funds along with several model portolios.

Bob Brinker's Moneytalk radio show is heard on close to two hundred radio stations on Saturdays and Sundays from 4-7 pm Eastern Time. The show is also heard live on both XM Satellite Radio and Sirius Satellite Radio, and is also streamed live globally on the internet. Moneytalk on Demand is a streaming service that allows around the clock access to Moneytalk radio broadcasts for a monthly fee.

Brinker is a long time member of the New York Society of Security Analysts and the Financial Analysts Federation. He served as Vice-President Investment Counsel at The Bank of New York, and on Wall Street as Chief Investment Officer for the U.S. division of Guardian Royal Exchange, London. Bob is the co-founder of the "BJ Group", an investment management firm that he sold in the summer of year 2000. Brinker continued to provide asset allocation guidance for the firm after the sale.

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[lordsummerisle]

1. Brinker accusing someone of loving money is like

Brittany Spears accusing someone of loving attention...

[UTUSN]

3. His livelihood/vocation *is* dealing with finances, now isn't it. n/t

[lordsummerisle]

12. Brinker should stick with talk about money

hence the name of his show. He can't resist, though, bringing his neocon politics into play any chance he gets. I used to be a fan of his but after he cheered us on into the Iraq war I largely stopped listening to him. Another annoying thing about him is, like O'Leilly, he insists he's an independent which is a pretty hilarious if you've listened to him long enough...

[Gabi Hayes]

2. what an idiot....why does he think the stock market had its worst week in four years?

let's turn over our entire national debt to China!

wait, we already ARE!

how can he be more clueless?

problem is, I don't think there's anything we can do with it, because it's exactly what the global capitalist structure is all about.

have fun watching the US become just another third world nation. we're about half way there already

[UTUSN]

7. Now-now, and we got along so well in one of your responses recently.

I don't know that man beyond 5 minutes at a time spread out with weeks in between. And despite my not knowing what the heck he's talking about when he says Fannie Maes or Ginnie Maes, I'm willing to bet he's not "an idiot." Your pals in the Hugo threads are always challenging posters to back up what they say with FACTS, so howzabouddit with NO "idiot" language?

Otoh, it's time for SNL and re-running The Departed. Nite.

[Gabi Hayes]

10. what I said stands. China is in the process of purchasing our national debt.

Along with, in eager cooperation, taking all the decent paying jobs that used to exist in this country. But wait, that's not all....they're competing in our race to the bottom with other fine countries that pay their captive, helpless workers a few dollars a day, and that's just FINE with him and his fellow investors.

OK, maybe idiot wasn't the most felictious use of language. how about, craven, venal asshole?

If you don't know what that means, too bad for you

hope you're not too old to start learning Chinese.

if you think I'm exaggerating, watch this

http://www.atomfilms.com/film/haha_america.jsp

[w8liftinglady]

4. so...is Chavez a neocon?

[UTUSN]

5. I would say...

But I recall complimenting something in your threads recently. :hi:

[ProudDad]

6. I understand your despising Peron and Batista

why do you "despise" Fidel and Hugo? :shrug:

Peron and Batista were right-wing murdering bastards who only cared about salting away as much money as they could before being deposed.

Castro and Chavez genuinely care about their people. They believe that Socialism is more likely to help their people than the rapacious capitalist system... I tend to agree with them so you know where I'm coming from...

[UTUSN]

8. I am very far from convinced that CASTRO/CHAVEZ "genuinely care about their people".

And, to answer further, I am a generalist, paint in broad strokes. Without getting into all the usual arguments about how "elected" those two are, the desire for unlimited years in power is just a bell-ringer for me of authoritarianism. Besides the original CIA Miami Exhiles, there have been others documenting the human rights abuses under CASTRO.

In general: I am against authoritarianism of whatever kind, whether of the Right or of the Left. And I am against personality cults, whether of Royalty or of Populism. Heck, just the other day somebody with a JFK avatar flamed me to a crisp.

And WHO WAS IT, exactly, who DECIDED THAT CHAVEZ AND CASTRO were the ones who would DECIDE what was best for "THEIR" people????

I'm really signing off, not running away. This thread was up for awhile and had even sunk to page 2 before anybody bothered to reply.

[ProudDad]

9. the people of Venezuela

in a free and fair election decided that Chavez could speak for them.

We could argue about Fidel but Chavez has more legitimacy than just about any other world leader...

[KharmaTrain]

11. How Else Is He Able To Pay For His Social Programs?

Think for a second...if you had a rich neighbor who relied on you for a major source for your food and that money would go to feed your family, would you turn that money down? Most of us have worked for bosses we couldn't stand, but still took the paycheck. Without our money rolling in, Chavez loses his revenues to both improve social services and maintain his overall power and stability over the wealthy oligarchy that tried to overthrow him once.

Shutting off our oil is stupid business because Chavez relies on the US for many imports and any squeeze/massive price hike he would throw at us would boomerang on his own economy and power base.

[1932]

13. He loves channeling money to the working people in Venezuela.