So, Is Anyone Going to Do Anyting? How Many Crimes Does It Take?

[leftyladyfrommo]

Does anyone else wonder about this? How many crimes or even just major screwups is it going to take before Congress or the law does something about Bush and Cheney?

The 9/11 fiasco where this adm did absolutely nothing to protect New York from that attack - even tho there were warnings.

The whole mess in Iraq - all the lies about the reasons to go to war. And all of the mismanagement and just total screwups involved there. All the wasted billions and billions of dollars. All the people dead - both US and Iraqi.

The whole Katrina fiasco - I mean that was just about as horrible as it gets. 1600 people dead and an entire city destroyed.

Now the whole Veteran's care fiasco - that can all be traced right back to the Bush adm.

All of the purposeful erosion of US Constitutional Rights that has been allowed to happen.

Jeez! How much is enough here? Are really low poll numbers and a legacy of total idiocy the only things that will happen to these guys?

[helderheid]

1. Don't forget Plame, illegal wiretapping, torture, killing off habeas corpus...

I don't know what it will take.

[leftyladyfrommo]

3. Doesn't this just amaze you? Poor Nixon was out over a coverup.

His leval of crookedness doesn't even register on the disaster meter for this adm.

We keep asking if this new scandal will bring this adm. down. Then nothing happens. And we just go on to the next awful scandal.

This is so hard to even believe.

[Hissyspit]

72. If you're going to steal, steal big.

Petty criminals end up in prison for most of their lives.

Big criminals earn followers and admirers.

It's insane, of course.

[leftyladyfrommo]

5. Hey, those are just the level two crimes they have committed.

I hate to even think about the ones no one knows about. Like what really happened in those CIA renditions. The torture in the military prisons.

My God. It just goes on and on and on.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

53. We have no judges or attorneys left to defend us.

They have all been replaced by automatons.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

2. When I see Shrub on tv I see a criminal, and am appalled that he is treated with respect

by MSM, politicians (including Dems), etc. and not treated as the pariah he is. I think there should be a Shun The Shrub Movement!

[leftyladyfrommo]

4. Really. I wouldn't want to be in the same room as he is - not even

in the same building. Or Cheney or Rumsfeld - or any of them.

They are all absolutely dispicable people.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

10. They are mass murderers. eom

[radfringe]

6. we're on the same page

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=334602&mesg_id=334602

[porphyrian]

7. If our representatives in Congress won't do what's necessary, what then? - n/t

[bdamomma]

73. It is all up to us, every day while we watch this murderous

regime we dig ourselves deeper and deeper into a hole. It is just really frustrating, this is OUR country.

[Greyhound]

8. Another discussion from another board that I feel is quite relevant to your post.

The perspective of a thinking person (Homo Sapien) that is not an American;

...I honestly don't see it being an issue in the states, frankly I think you're the least likely nation to ever revolt against your government.

My old man always held that until people were hungry they'd put up with almost any amount of repression - you have MILLIONS of people who are hungry but instead of storming the WH on mass(sic) they keep working 3 jobs while your government gives BILLIONS to a first world nation in aid.

In most nations, evidence of election fraud of the scale of 2000 would have people rioting on the streets - what happened in the US - fuck all.

Honestly I think you've all been effectively neutered...

I would just love to say this person is wrong, but in the face of mountains of evidence, I just can't.
:kick: & R

[helderheid]

11. I'm afraid you're right.

[leftyladyfrommo]

12. I think this is all Clinton's fault. No, really.

The Republicans put him throught so much - the impeachment, ihe inquiries - ad nauseaum. And for waht? Clinton didn't do anything. It was all a total waste of money. And it was so damaging to our country as a whole. The energy that it took was completely draining.

Now no one wants to put the country thru something like that again.

Only this time we really to do it. We need to bring criminal charges against these guys. We need to really, really bring them down hard. But no one actually has the guts to do it.

[helderheid]

13. you are SO RIGHT. I don't think even a blow job would start impeachment hearings with these guys.

[leftyladyfrommo]

14. Not Much Chance of That - No woman in her right mind would

get within 100 yards of these dicks.

[mnhtnbb]

23. Except Condi--who we know is out of her mind.

[Greyhound]

25. I can't agree. What about Raygun? We learned that he literally gave

arms to a terrorist regime in exchange for the return of our citizens, after accusing Carter of negotiating with terrorists in the campaign, not only that, but we learned that he actually had them delay that return so he could use it to his advantage. We did nothing.

Iran-Contra. We did nothing.

"I don't recall" one hundred and eighty some times. We did nothing.

BCCI. We did nothing.

There has been a constant string of crimes committed against this nation by people in the highest positions, crimes that just 10 - 20 years prior would have caused a unanimous outcry for their political heads and lengthy jail sentences, and we not only did nothing, we re-elected them.

It is no wonder that they believe they can do anything they want and get away with it, they can, and so they do. There is no excuse for this, we are no longer worthy of anything other than contempt.

[glitch]

26. I think they put him through that to innoculate us against the idea of impeachment

They have known for a long time that they would be committing impeachable offenses once they got in power again.
Plus the twofer of neutralizing his power, you know they love their twofers.

[romana]

35. No stomach left for impeachment

Glitch wrote

They have known for a long time that they would be committing impeachable offenses once they got in power again. Plus the twofer of neutralizing his power, you know they love their twofers.

You know, this occurred to me several years ago, and I while it's kind of tinfoil hat stuff, I really do think there's some truth here. They were so rabidly out to get Clinton, and so determined about it, that there had to be a much more significant agenda than just getting Clinton. I think one of the main purposes was to effectively do away with impeachment. They couldn't remove it from the Constitution, so they did the next best thing, and made certain we had no stomach for it.

I do think this situation is becoming increasingly frustrating however. How much are we going to let them do to this country before we say enough! I really thought things would be better after the 2006 election, but it seems worse than ever. And it feels like we, the people, are completely powerless to do anything.

[glitch]

38. Fear not the tin, and welcome to DU! nt

[newyawker99]

41. Hi romana!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[romana]

48. Thanks.

Thanks. :) I've actually been here awhile, but I don't post often.

[NJCher]

70. ehhhh

You're giving these jackasses way too much credit. They staged the Clinton impeachment because they are like little children: "If I can't be in charge of the gov't, then I'll make sure you can't run it."



Cher

[Occulus]

39. I've always felt, from day one of the * admin (well, long before, really), that that was the intent.

They were PISSED when Clinton got elected. It was supposed to be Poppy again, then another republican- most likely *- and they were going to complete the neoconservative revolution. That was "the plan".

"The plan" went awry with Clinton's election. We weren't supposed to have those years of peace and prosperity; we were supposed to have ever-increasing tension and conflict. Clinton's election upset all that and gave people prosperous years to recall when the neocons took power again.

I say "took" power, and I'll deal with that in a moment, but first, consider my little theory here in light of what you ponied out: they were merciless to Clinton. They made him deal with ever least littlest bullshit "crime" (making it all up as they went along) they could come up with. They put him, his family, his administration, and this entire nation through hell and back.

I'm saying they did it deliberately, as a means to the end of being able to pull off anything and everything they previously needed to do (and would have done, had Poppy been elected) once they regained the White House.

Notice how they took power- literally! * bullied his way into office and proceeded to put on a kind of fast-forward push through everything that was supposed to have been done over the eight years Clinton was in office. But for Clinton's election, we would be much, much worse off than we are today.

They intentionally exhausted everyone. It's not that people don't want to put the country through another such mess, however well-deserved every last investigation and trial may be- it's that people don't want to go through it again themselves. This end, of course, was intentional.

These people are diabolically evil, and I don't see any way we can deal with what they've set up to protect themselves. They know they can do pretty much anything they like even now- notice how oddly timid the Democratic Party is, and that's with control of Congress!

It's not that they have something on everyone. It's not that everyone is scared (although, in some cases, I guess "scared" could easily be the appropriate and very justifiable word to use). It isn't even a lack of will or apathy or the like, no- it's ennui, plain and simple.

I despise these people.

[SusanaMontana41]

50. I see what you're getting at

but Clinton's impeachment was the fault of "the Republicans put him through so much." Let's keep the blame where it belongs.

[bdamomma]

74. once we find our guts and will maybe then we will be able to do

something.

[Le Taz Hot]

9. I'm reposting most of this

from one I posted in a different forum.

Allow me to answer your question with another question. Why are you looking to the Democrats for answers? I'm sorry, but there is a reason impeachment is off the table and its not the reasons they're giving you. We need to stop looking to the Democrats for salvation and elect people who will represent US. Remember US? We the People? US?

It's not up to political parties to pull us out of this shit. It's not up to the MSM. THEY'RE in for a piece of the pie. They have no interest in changing the status quo. Why should they? No, that change is up to us. The Founding Fathers handed us a perfectly good form of government and we have managed to lazy and apathetic ourselves into a dictatorship. WE need to wake up and take action. WE need to wake up the American people to the realities of what true patriotism is. WE need to take our country back. (Thank you, Howard Dean for putting it so succinctly.)

[helderheid]

15. www.pdamerica.org

www.pdamerica.org

[Morereason]

47. Progressive Democrats of America... Please start a new thread about this!!!!

I would think most DU'rs would be very interested in this organization. It appears that there are serious groups mobilizing to move the party to progressive ideals. I will join.

[hang a left]

33. Well let's see...

Almost two years until another election, with electronic voting machines.

I get so frustrated. We call, email, write letters, vote in mass, volunteer for campaigns, phone bank, GOTV, we talk to anyone who will listen.

WTF else is there to do?

I am not responsible for the condition this country is in, nor do I think most of the people who participate here are either.

Preaching to the choir.

Let's face it, our own party has been conspiring against our country for years.

I need my meds upped again.

[Le Taz Hot]

37. Yes you ARE responsible

for the condition of this country. So am I. We all are. The Founding Fathers gave us a blueprint and the cornerstone to that blueprint is citizen government. I want a sanitation worker for my Senator. Or a homemaker. Or artist. Or Administrative Assistant. THAT'S the way it was SUPPOSED to work. What we ended up with are individuals interested in money and power. The only reason laws are written (or not written) is via the influence of corporate interest.

"Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread." --Thomas Jefferson: Autobiography, 1821. ME 1:122

Prophetic or what? Smart dudes those Founding Fathers.

[RestoreGore]

42. Thank you. I couldn't agree more.

[hang a left]

43. OK. I am a homemaker

Wanna give me the money to run for office?

I am a woman, maybe I could run for president?

I am just curious as to what more am "I" am supposed to do?

[Le Taz Hot]

46. I think running for office is a wonderful idea.

Contrary to popular belief, having money is NOT a prerequisite to running for office. Grassroots support is. All that is required on your part is to speak the truth. That's it.

If you're not ready for that step, how about getting a copy of "An Inconvenient Truth," having a get-together with friends and family and just having a discussion? Or any other documentary or film ("V for Vendetta" for example) you feel is relevant. Even if you raise the consciousness of a few people you're doing a huge service toward regaining our Democracy.

Change takes time but things CAN and do change. Change occurs gradually and in increments and instigated by people like you and me. Remember, history picks a small, handful of people to represent the agents of change. You and I don't get into the history books and that's OK just as long as we make progress towards that common goal: retaking what was given to us -- our inalienable rights.

[bdamomma]

75. well said, we all are responsible for this mess, and when

do we say enough is enough.

[RestoreGore]

16. probably not because the entire system is corrupted

And the American people on the whole are too uninformed about all of this to be outraged enough to do something about it.

[dkofos]

17. Not until the blowjob happens.

Or until someone comes up with a picture of * & Jeff Gannon going at it.

People don't care about their pResident breaking the law.
After all he is the pResident and is above the law.
Just ask Alberto!!

[GenDem]

20. Somebody, please, for our countries sake, give * a blowjob

so it can be over.

[Cabcere]

29. If I knew for absolute certain that it would work,

that it would get his lying, treasonous ass impeached for good...then I might at least consider it. :puke: Hell, if it would definitely get the whole bunch of corrupt, lying bastards out of there, I might even consider giving one to Cheney too. :puke: (However, I can't promise I wouldn't "accidentally" bite - close proximity to that kind of evil would be capable of causing all kinds of adverse neurological reactions, I would imagine.)

[GenDem]

32. I think there are many that would line up

I would sacrifice for the good of our country. :puke: It would mean years of therapy and PTSD, but to get rid of this cabal -- it would be worth it.

A shame that we even are joking about it, but it does seem that they can lie, break the law, step on our constitution, and cause the death and destruction of a nation, and still no impeachment.

[dkofos]

40. The repubes only lost the election, not the media.

[helderheid]

44. That actually would make a funny protest - thousands show up with signs saying they'd give him a BJ

[GenDem]

45. It would make a great protest sign

A good one for the March 17th protest. Blow job is a bit vile, but using the initials BJ may be an acceptable alternative.

[DKRC]

52. Fair Warning Notice?

What's outside my teeth is yours.
What's inside my teeth is mine.
Be nice.

Nah, tell'im after.
:evilgrin:

[Cabcere]

66. Haha! Nice.

I like the way you think. :evilgrin:

[helderheid]

21. They wouldn't impeach him - they'd send him to rehab.

[bdamomma]

76. that's what he needs to be assessed and treated for a

psychiatric and psychological problem, * has many, and he is a threat to all of us.

[Cabcere]

22. Even then, I bet they'd call PhotoShop

and deny the existence of something like that ever happening, even when confronted with evidence. Think about it - when have facts ever stopped these people from believing what they want to believe? :shrug: Stephen Colbert is, unfortunately, right on the mark about "truthiness." (That goes for both sides, btw, but I do feel that "the-president-can-do-no-wrong" groupthink has gone to an entirely new level for many Republicans.)

[itsmesgd]

18. When this will be enough...

My stepdad slipped and said that after shrub starts the next war, that the people will begin to get "up in arms". He said this to mean that people will begin to get upset, but I believe that this will actually get motivated people to take up arms.

Malloy often says that "there are four boxes to use in the defense of liberty, Soap, Ballot, Jury, Ammo and that they are to be used in that order." Last year we spoke up, last November we voted, the judiciary is being routed by the admin who is rendering the attorneys unable to act or face removal. I think that doesnt leave us too many options, kiddies.

[Cabcere]

19. Sad, scary, and true...and it's off to the Greatest Page for you! n/t

[barbtries]

24. man i wonder too

i can't count how many times i have thought, ok, the hammer's gonna come down now - i mean, this is treason, they outed a covert spy for political reasons, or okay, they gotta get him now, he's spying on americans without warrants! he can't do that, or okay, here we go, the US government played a fucking guitar while New Orleans drowned, omigawd...

and nuthin. nuthin. nuthin. they get away with murder. cold blooded murder. they ignore our right to privacy, civil rights, benefits getting squeezed away and they misplace over one billion dollars cash that they have basically just reserved for their corporate fascist fans and friends, by extension for themselves...they wage a war of aggression against a nation that poses no threat, lying to the people every step of the way, and - nuthin. nuthin. nuthin.

gw uses signing statements to extend his power and lest we hadn't figured that out yet, make sure that it is in writing: his absolute contempt for the rule of law and the separation of powers. he's got no use for checks and balances, and his maniacal rule of this country has and will continue to claim countless victims, and nuthin. nuthin. nuthin.

he ADVOCATES TORTURE. orders extraordinary renditions and the incarceration of children for gawdsake. has never been elected to the presidency of this country!

nuthin. nuthin. nuthin.

aaaaarrrrrrrrrrggggghhhhhhhh

[Cabcere]

27. I know what you mean.

I keep thinking that he couldn't possibly get any more idiotic, treasonous, or just plain evil, and then he goes and does something that completely blows all my expectations. :scared: It's terrifying, and kind of surreal. (Not in a good way, though. Melting clocks, I can deal with...power-crazed wannabe dictator, not so much.) :(

[Subdivisions]

28. ...And if they aren't stopped, they'll give '08 to Guiliani

[Pierzin]

30. I agree completely. Write your reps, and state reps

I have already written my congressional rep, Jim McDermott. We have goings on in Wshington state where they may actually get in a state impeachment initiative.
Thank you for writing. These madmen must be stopped.

[area51]

31. This is an interesting thread at smirkingchimp

that talks about why people here don't protest as much as the europeans.

[bdamomma]

77. cuz, Europeans are more politically savvy than us.

plus Europeans wouldn't put up with all the sh$t we have, if they had a ruler/dictator like ours, he would be long gone.

[opusprime]

34. The whole "Rule of Law" thing is overrated...

If the President and his administration dont have to follow the law, why should we?

If you ever get in trouble, just claim "State Secrets" and demand that the case be dismissed. Then threaten the Judge with their job.

The system is for suckers.

[CrispyQ]

36. Nothing's going to happen to these guys.

Congress isn't going to push impeachment & things will continue on as they do now, outrage after outrage. Hillary isn't on my top five list, but I'll support her. I can not imagine a worse administration than the current one, but I'm betting a Giuliani administration would be a close contender.

Holy fuck, I'm depressed. I've hardly visited DU in the past two weeks. I have outrage fatigue & I can only escape it through ignorance. Even today, I'm just going to skim the surface & maybe spend more time combing through DU groups.

:hug:

[nadinbrzezinski]

49. As the cynics would put it

eating a kid on prime tv will NOt do it

Now on a less cynical note, you are aware that there have been 60+ hearings already.

I am sure you realize that those hearings ARE the first step

[cascadiance]

51. So should we update the constitution to say that it can be only done in the first two years...

... of the president's term?

The not enough time to do an impeachment because of pending elections excuse we hear constantly now seems to make that almost a mandatory requirement. Perhaps it should be a part of the law, or else we should say that it is totally beside the point how much time is left in Bush's term! I say the latter, which is also I think what the constitution says now too! Let's start the proceedings now!

[WillyT]

54. Check This Site Out !!!

Link: http://www.a28.org/

:kick:

[blues90]

55. the worst part is it's all right there in the open .

And still the house goes on as slow as possible .

I really feel it will take the people this time around to hault this crime from continuing , trouble is if it is true that 80% of the population gets their news off the tv then we will never have enough numbers to fight these criminals .

I look around here in Hollywood CA and I see people going on in a rush as they have for years as if nothing is wrong at all . And in their own I me mine world there probably isn't . I see mostly new cars and have to wonder how they afford this or if they are near the edge of falling into the cracks .

If we do leave it up to the government then nothing will change .

Outside of this Iraq crime war the worst thing is New Orleans and the Miss gulf coast since this is right here in our own country and the numbers of 1600 really seems to be a false account too .

I really don't understand how americans can't see this and realize how much of a crime this is in itself .

[CrispyQ]

59. I don't believe the 1600 number either.

It wouldn't surprise me to find that the number is closer to the number lost on 9/11. You know this administration would never, never let the Katrina number get even close to the 9/11 number.

When I talk to the people in my office about current events they often have no idea what or who I'm talking about. I'm not sure how many could even tell you what habeas corpus is.

The past few weeks I have been feeling very helpless & hopeless.

[blues90]

64. I thought at first Katrina was the cause of more than 3,000 deaths

I think now it is even higher and still they can't locate many across the country if in fact they were not removed in silence .

When I tried talking about the Iraq attack or Katrina where I worked at the time the only response I got was the war was right and they should nuke the entire middle east and new orleans was full of criminals .

There was no point in trying to convince anyone there , I was always surrounded and badgered . And I quickly acquired the name (wood stock).

I still don't have much faith in most americans and their views of the world . They take wars and death in stride as if this is a normal thing and acceptable position . Now if you were to bring up money or the latest electronic gizmo then you have their attention but I have nothing to offer there .

I truley do not belong in this time warp with all this space age technology whether it be the new buildings or the new cars and the entire way the attitude and landscape has been altered and become in my opinion an abomination .

[nam78_two]

56. Not to mention inaction on climate change

Undermining of decaddes old environmental protection measures, making the EPA, USDA and the FDA even more ineffective than they were, slashing funding for projects related to environmental protections.

[wiggs]

57. There's a Katrina/Walter Reed waiting for us in every policy area. Someone needs

to string all the misdeeds and crimes together in one sentence for the MSM news. This is a pattern over 6 years of deceipt, corruption, ideology and incompetence. Yet no one is really putting all of it together in one place and talking about it. We allow each week's issue to be dealt with in vacuum and then move on.

[KoKo]

58. We don't have a Media Echo Chamber....it's still owned by Corporatists & RW'ers.

Until then no one can "string it." Just us out here on the Internet....:-(

[earth mom]

60. At this point, ALL of Congress has BLOOD on their hands.

NOT Impeaching the criminals in charge means they are ALL just as guilty!

That is one of the main reasons that I would NEVER support Hillary or Obama for President.

CRIMINALS-the lot of them!

:grr: :puke: :mad:

[natrat]

61. nothing will happen-continue to bend over and take it

[bdamomma]

79. unfortunately you are right, * is there, and nothing will be done

unless we grow some and take back this country of ours.

[KitSileya]

62. Here's the appeal I made in my LJ based on your list...

I wanted to get the word out, so I used your list to make one myself, to enlighten people on my LJ about these things (not that I haven't been vocal about them already.)


9/11 2001 Bush ignores the warnings of about 20 countries and a daily presidential memo briefing, showing gross incomptetence letting nearly 3000 people die because he was more interested in clearing brush on his potemkin farm.

March 2003 Bush deliberately lies to the American people and the world, claiming Saddam Hussein has WMDs, ties to Al Qaida, and is a major threat to the US. In the next 4 years, he gets 650 000+ Iraqis and 3100+ Americans killed, an entire country destroyed, and an excellent excuse to do whatever he wants with total disregard for the Constitution, the will of the people, and international law.

August 2005 Bush deliberately does not tell people in NOLA that the levees are breaking, lets an entire city flood while he eats cake, and gets 1000+ people killed. He has already gutted the agency responsible for federal aid in emergencies, and during the crisis, he is far too busy playing guitar while NOLA and the entire gulf coast is drowned, and he and his party works hard in the aftermath to make sure the class war down there is won by the Trent Lotts rather than the citizens living in Ward 9.

Autumn 2006 Bush fires US attorneys because they are inconveniently investigating his cronies, or simply because they want the slot open so they can give it as reward to faithful gophers. The haste is because they have a short window to do this, the right to do so snatched in (un)Patriot Act, and the fear is that the Democratic Congress might actually demand they follow the Constitution.

February 2007 Bush excoriates critics of the war for not supporting the troops, while letting wounded soldiers live in squalor, with rats, cockroaches, holes in the walls and mold behind the wallpaper. He makes sure disabled veterans don't get the disability rating they deserve, they are forced to pay back their sign up bonuses etc because they can't do their whole tours, and soldiers with ptsd is left to commit suicide before they get help.

During this entire period, Bush has foreign citizens renditioned to countries where they are tortured - when they are not tortured by the American government in American prisons, like John Walker Lindh. He has people incarcerated for life without trial in Guantanamo, and he claims the right to imprison anyone, foreign or American citizen, at his pleasure.

During this entire period, Bush exempts himself from following the Constitution in many sundry ways thru his signing statements, and his administration openly declares that they will not follow the will of the Congress on many issues, most notably on declaration of war on Iran

During the entire period, he illegally wiretaps people as he wishes, disregarding the system set in place to make sure such wiretaps are not used on political enemies.

So, I have only one question - will somebody please sacrifice themselves and give this man a blowjob already!!

[formercia]

63. So many crimes

I feel like a blind dawg in a meat house.

[marchtoimpeach]

65. We all have the chance to do something: A28

Please spread the word. There is a nationwide protest for impeachment scheduled for April 28. We need everybody who gives a damn to get involved NOW.

www.a28.org

[Jcrowley]

67. Not to mention

1. Lying to Congress: cost of Medicare bill
2. Crony Appointment: Michael Brown, fundraiser, to FEMA head
3. Disastrous Legislation: Healthy Forests
4. Theft of 2000 Election
5. Theft of 2004 Election
6. Rescinding the Davis-Bacon act requiring paying employees of govt. contractors the area's prevailing wage for work. Not even sure its legal for a president to unilaterally suspend an act of congress.
7. Alteration of Presidential Records Act through Executive Order to effectively nullify the law.
8. Increasing government secrecy through reclassification of documents and encouraging Executive branch agencies to resist FOIA requests.
9. Failure to act immediately on Aug. 6, 2001, PDB.
10. War crimes: Total annihilation of Fallujia
11. War crimes: Use of white phosphorus as a weapon
12. War misdeeds: failure to secure weapons stockpiles after invasion
13. War misdeeds: Intentional use of smaller military force than needed
14. Lying about Clinton staffers trashing the White House.
15. Fake "terror" alerts whenever Bush fell behind in the polls during the 2004 election campaign.
16. Exposing an active undercover CIA agent.
17. Flouting the Geneva Conventions and making torture legal.
18. Republican Congress suspends Habeas Corpus.
19. Circumventing the 1978 FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) to engage in illegal surveillance of people residing within the United States since 9/11/2001 without judicial review, in *direct* conflict with the 4th Amendment to the Constitution, and therefor an impeachable offense. (Note: during the 2004 campaign, Bush *specifically* addressed "roving wiretaps" as part of the Patriot Act and defended them on the grounds that they were still required obtaining a warrant.) Link
20. Used the NSA to wiretap both the offices and private residences of UN Ambassadors in 2002-2003 to try and discern how members were likely to vote on the Iraq war resolution before the crucial vote in 2003.
21. According to Special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Cheney's former Chief of Staff, claims he was given authorization to leak details of the still classified National Intelligence Estimate (with regards to the identity of undercover CIA operative Valerie Plame) by Cheney, who received that authorization by President Bush himself. If true, never before has a President selectively "declassified" classified information without going through the normal National Security vetting process and then pass that information along only to specific individuals (eg: Bob Novak) in the media rather than broad public disclosure. The White House claims it did nothing wrong, but why then would Novak attribute his source to "a former high-ranking WH official" if nothing improper was taking place?

Rather than protesting with my usual clever banners I've lately been thinking of dropping all the wordsmithing and just standing out on the street with a big banner that simply reads:
"IMPEACH THE MOTHERF**KER ALREADY!! GEEZ!"

[Senator]

68. Impeachment or Bust(ed Nation)

It's a simple reality.

Only Impeachment ... can actually DO anything about anything.

It's the only thing that makes any sense on any level - moral, logical, political, historical, electoral -- you name it. (That is, if one's not mired in the Beltway Bedlam Blather Bubble.)

It is our ONLY meaningful option.

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[orleans]

69. "How Many Crimes Does It Take?" answer: 57 n/t

[sce56]

71. It is simply the same crime family that has rulled since they KILLED JFK!

We should abolish the Republic Party as they are the ones to constantly get us in trouble since Nixon on same shit different assholes! Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush I & Bush II all assholes! It is hard to believe that we have gone so far down the road to a Banana Republic! I feel like my twenty years of serving means noting anymore!

[Fovea]

78. First thing to do

change our extradition treaty with Paraguay.

[LibDemAlways]

80. The missing ingredient is accountability. The corporate

whores simply will not pin the blame on the Bush Crime Family for anything. According to the media, Iraq is ultimately the CIA's fault because of the "bad intelligence" they supposedly fed those paragons of virtue in the executive branch who had exhausted every other possible avenue before reluctantly declaring war. The ugly aftermath of Katrina is the fault of Democratic officials in Louisiana and the citizens themselves who didn't heed the warning to get out - never mind that many were simply trapped. 9/11 was the fault of 19 Iraqis with boxcutters and their al Qaeda leader Saddam Hussein. The loss of Constitutional Rights isn't even mentioned by the media which is too busy obsessing over celebrity gossip to worry about people being wiretapped, having their mail opened, being felt up at airports, or thrown into the slammer indefinitely without access to counsel - all in the "homeland." The veterans' fiasco is the fault of military brass, not the civilan leadership and administration. George Bush would never hurt a vet. After all he served proudly in Vietnam.

Nothing but omissions, distortions, and outright lies have been fed to the American people over the last six years. While the media has been busy cheerleading and propagandizing for the criminals, the Dems have either been complicit or tongue-tied on the sidelines - afraid to speak up for fear of being branded terrorist-sympathizers or being on the receiving end of an anthrax letter.

Enough truth nevertheless managed to slip through that those who bothered to vote last November turned control of Congress over to the Democrats. All we can do is keep the pressure on our elected officials to investigate and hope that enough of them can band together to make a difference.....but judging by past performance, I'm not holding my breath. And unfortunately, as far as taking it to the streets, that would more likely be prompted by the cancellation of American Idol than over something as insignificant to most Americans as the fate of the nation.

[shance]

81. Its going to take us as citizens Lefty. When right wingers in our govt. killed JFK

RFK and Martin Luther King and got away with it, this is what we are now dealing with. By some of the same people who were involved all the way back then.

The day America was taken hostage and justice was denied was the day JFK died.