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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:06 PM Original message |
Scottie McClellen has proved 9/11 was NO inside operation |
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teacher gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. Well said! n/t |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 08:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
89. The VP |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. That's pretty much what I've concluded... |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I don't think they have enough wherewithal to pull poff a circle jerk |
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LTR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
3. I've been saying that for years! |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. Don't be so sure. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. We're there because they sold it. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
6. That doesn't rule out LIHOP. n/t |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Sure it does |
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Frank Cannon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 06:07 AM Response to Reply #12 |
72. It's been proven that they were aware of the possibility of a threat |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. Sure doesn't. |
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Beausoleil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
33. Sometimes the most effective thing the incompetent can do |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
107. IMO Cheney at least knew the expected magnitude. |
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Beausoleil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #107 |
114. They didn't fantacize about a new "Pearl Harbor" for nothing. n/t |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
108. Which leads us to the very fine line between LIHOP and MIHOP. |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
52. I still have that problem with the heat of the fuel |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. definitely MIHOP IMHO. nt |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 07:08 AM Response to Reply #52 |
74. If I have2 choose between Michael Shermer & the Woo-woos in the 9/11 forum, I'm siding with Shermer. |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
7. No they couldn't have masterminded it but they showed |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. That's because they were too busy figuring out how to sell their agenda |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
9. well, somebody did it and I am no closer to being convinced... |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
42. i think they did what they do best (nada). |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 07:27 AM Response to Reply #42 |
77. It's a very big group |
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Star80 (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
11. PNAC |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. PNAC laid out a marketing plan |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. People Not All Charitable |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
13. How can you call them incapable |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. They're SALESMEN |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. The word I like is "grifters." |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. No, they're more than just salesmen |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Exactly! |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
41. 9/11 - "The day the reset button was hit" |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 05:45 AM Response to Reply #13 |
69. I agree. They've masterminded and gotten away with things that should be unthinkable. |
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Alameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 08:12 AM Response to Reply #13 |
84. agreed |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
17. PNAC masterminded it, all thought out in a neocon think tank... Cheney, Rumsfeld, Libby, Feith, |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
18. Just think of Scottie Mac as a Level 2 Disinformation campaign. |
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democraticinsurgent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
43. very well said |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:10 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Bush & company planned 911 his brother was security for the |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
20. ...never been able to figure out why people give them so much credit |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #20 |
109. Losers who stole two elections. |
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cbc5g (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
21. A foreign government who benefited from 9/11 by having 2 neighbors knocked out could mastermind it |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
22. They've really done a number on you and the rest of this country haven't they? |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Yes! You said it well. |
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soothsayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
46. Indeed! Gov't being run as a criminal enterprise at the highest levels. |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
51. Indeed well said.... |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 05:47 AM Response to Reply #22 |
70. Yes, well said. |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #22 |
97. Bingo. |
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MadinMo (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #22 |
98. Well put. If there is incompetence, it is B***. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
120. They'll Be Back Especially WHen Folks Keep Underestimating the Bushco Type (nt) |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
24. Bullshit Rumsfeld & Cheney could if you read the book and quotes |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
25. It wouldn't have required much brains to let the 9-11 event |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
26. That doesn't answer all the questions |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I think many of us deep down in our hearts and minds know the answer to those questions. |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
31. Think of Scottie Mac as running a Level 2 Disinformation campaign. |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #31 |
48. I like the way you think n/t |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Thank you. |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
32. I think your central premise is wrong |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #32 |
50. Yes, exactly. Stupidity is a cover. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 07:56 AM Response to Reply #50 |
82. The Front Man Is, Indeed, Stupid |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #82 |
92. OK, sure. The C in C (Chimp in Charge) |
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Prefer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
34. The administration didn't make the plan |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
35. What do you think 9/11 was? |
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Prefer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. And the anti aircraft gun in the middle of the Pentagon - what's that there for? |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
37. That's what I've said from the very beginning. |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
38. I have always wondered... |
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brindis_desala (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
39. "Overgrown military establishments are inauspicious to liberty,.. |
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Beregond2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
40. "Marketing experts." That nails it. |
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DinahMoeHum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
44. Don't attribute to conspiracy something that can be explained by stupidity. |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #44 |
57. This is rediculous. |
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gauguin57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
47. LOL! ... "couldn't pull off a panty raid" ... You've got that right! |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
54. weak lihop. That's what I've always believed. |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
55. They OUTSOURCED it BECAUSE they couldn't do it themselves |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Then the GOP did what they do best: sit back and do nothing. n/t |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 08:17 AM Response to Reply #55 |
86. The Saudis certainly financed it, and the money went through.. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
58. Bullshit. MIHOP |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
59. You won't mind if we have another look at that 9/11 event, will you? |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Very well said.... |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 11:32 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. I don't see how anybody could buy |
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springhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:55 AM Response to Original message |
62. This war is going exactly as they wanted it to go.......... |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:31 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. No exit strategy! |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 07:13 AM Response to Reply #64 |
76. The corporations they're beholden to don't make $ if "they leave." |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:27 AM Response to Original message |
63. If not MIHOP, then LIHOP. But they KNEW. They damn well KNEW. |
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Fox Mulder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:33 AM Response to Original message |
65. You don't think Cheney could? |
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underseasurveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:36 AM Response to Original message |
66. Oh My God simple scotty has 'proved' no such thing |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:36 AM Response to Original message |
67. Wow, a new era has indeed dawned |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 07:38 AM Original message |
Nah. Posts "debunking" a 9/11 conspiracy are always permitted in GD.. |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 05:40 AM Response to Original message |
68. I've been trying to tell the 9/11 conspiracy guys this for years. |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 05:51 AM Response to Original message |
71. Read Matt Taibbi's new book, "The Great Derangement" |
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Psyop Samurai (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #71 |
104. That is despicable, and you know it... |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #71 |
113. Read Philip Zelikow's "Catastrophic Terrorism" article. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 06:10 AM Response to Original message |
73. No, it proves Bush didn't plan 9/11. But, we all knew that... |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 07:10 AM Response to Original message |
75. LOL...easy to see how many DUers will LOVE this thread! |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
78. Don't lump them in with used car salespeople |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
79. Here's the one thing: |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #79 |
112. It seems fairly obvious |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
80. Provocations as Pretexts for Imperial War |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #80 |
110. Zelikow is the Zelig of 9/11 n/t |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
81. so how did these "idiots" come up with the PATRIOT act? |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 08:01 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Sure They Could Be |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 08:18 AM Response to Reply #81 |
87. Somebody masterminded the stolen election of 2000.. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 09:22 AM Response to Reply #81 |
94. Sshhhh!..you're ruining it for the blind faithers who prefer to discount "crazy" conspiracies! |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
85. The outsourced it, like they do everything else...n/t |
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pberq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
88. ah yes, the incompetence theory |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 09:25 AM Response to Reply #88 |
95. Incompetence theory = safe. That's why people desperately cling to it despite all that is known |
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kickysnana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
90. Guess they can fool you twice. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #90 |
101. I agree. |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
91. My personal opinion on their involvement has always been, and still is |
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ogsbee (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
93. The incompentence claim is like a "get out of jail free" card |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
96. this post is an insult to all used car salesmen. |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
99. Mastermind 9-11 - NO - turn their backs on intel? absolutely. (August PDB) |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
100. Well, no one has ever explained WHY the |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
102. Yeah, they're so incompetent.. |
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davsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
103. The "defense" now is they are too stupid to pull it off? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
105. So why are they all kissy face with the nation who actually did |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
106. No they didn't plan it... they just LET IT HAPPEN... they had all kinds of warnings |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
111. "Shock and awe" on Baghdad was very successful. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
115. Good heavens, why do want to stir up the Mihop buffoons? |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
116. I don't agree that the Bushies really cared about winning in Iraq. Where as |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
117. Nope.... wrong. BushCo Most of What They Wanted |
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lame54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
118. I don't know - They are experts at destroying things |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
119. Absolutely agree! n/t |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
121. Greed, Ignorance, Fantasy |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
122. I never thought that the idiots masterminded it; I think they let it happen, |
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windoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-30-08 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
123. The coverup smacks of complicity |
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