Does The National Do-Not-Call Registry Apply To Army Recruiters???

[orleans]

we are on the national do not call registry and my daughter got a phone call from an army recruiter last week. the sargent left a message on our voice mail (which i saved) the caller id wiped the name of the incoming call but i think it said army corp. the voice mail recorded the date, time, and phone number the call originated from.

i have been looking around on the do not call registry to see if the army is exempt from this list and i can't find it if they are. is the army a not-for-profit organization? (somehow i don't think so!)

https://www.donotcall.gov/FAQ/FAQBusiness.aspx#who

he also said he got her name from a list of recent graduates in the area. and i'm thinking of calling this guy back and asking him where this "list" came from. for the last two or three years in high school i turned in an opt out form and one year, after checking to make sure my daughter was on the opt-out list (where they are mandated to turn your child's name over to the recruiters) i discovered she had been left off the list. i made a big fucking deal over it and they contacted the recruiter who picked up the list, told the recruiter he should destroy the list and they would give him a new one. (all this bullshit went on--i was furious because they were trusting the recruiter to tear up the list and argued to me that he would keep his word! and there was nothing more i could do at the time).

now i'm wondering if they turned over some sort of list after she graduated. and if they did i would think that was totally illegal.

any advice or feedback would be helpful.

thanks.
orleans

[Kagemusha]

1. I'm pretty confident patriotic legislators wrote a specific exemption.

The army wouldn't be considered a for-profit organization at any rate. It's the contractors who profit, not the army or its soldiers.

[Heidi]

2. You can thank "No Child Left Behind" for the recruiters having your daughter's name and contact info

From the No Child Left Behind Act:
SEC. 9528. ARMED FORCES RECRUITER ACCESS TO STUDENTS AND STUDENT RECRUITING INFORMATION.

(a) POLICY-

(1) ACCESS TO STUDENT RECRUITING INFORMATION- Notwithstanding section 444(a)(5)(B) of the General Education Provisions Act and except as provided in paragraph (2), each local educational agency receiving assistance under this Act shall provide, on a request made by military recruiters or an institution of higher education, access to secondary school students names, addresses, and telephone listings.

(2) CONSENT- A secondary school student or the parent of the student may request that the student's name, address, and telephone listing described in paragraph (1) not be released without prior written parental consent, and the local educational agency or private school shall notify parents of the option to make a request and shall comply with any request.

(3) SAME ACCESS TO STUDENTS- Each local educational agency receiving assistance under this Act shall provide military recruiters the same access to secondary school students as is provided generally to post secondary educational institutions or to prospective employers of those students.

[dkofos]

3. Have some fun with the assholes.

Fuck with them if you feel they are fucking with you.
Maybe you could get lucky and have them reassigned to say, IRAQ.

Or even better, you could get some free govt money by entrapping the asshole.

[T Wolf]

4. Yes, the warmongers are exempt and yes, you are supposed to be able to

opt-out.

Sometimes, schools do not follow through with what they are legally obligated to do. Being a responsible parent (which you have been) can work, but it takes persistence.

Like everything, it probably depends on the individuals involved. My wife is a HS guidance counselor and makes a point of giving all students the information and forms they need to enable their parents to remove their names from the military hit list. She also makes sure that her school follows through. She also makes sure the cannor fodder hunters have to adhere to equal access rules and do not get special access as they do in many schools.

In this instance, it does take a village to protect our kids from being turned into human sacrifices.

[Heidi]

6. :thumbsup: for Mrs. T Wolf!

:thumbsup:

[orleans]

7. it does take a village--and my village was out to lunch when the

recruiter came for a list.

the kids your wife is looking out for are very lucky--even though they may not know it

[Vidar]

10. Three cheers for your wife!

[Rosemary2205]

5. All government, charity and survey calls are exempt.

You can stop charity and survey calls by requesting to be removed from their call list. They have 30 days to get you off their call list and cannot call you for 1 year.

There is no way to stop governments or political candidates/groups from calling you. Surprise surprise.

[orleans]

8. where did you hear/read about the government calls? n/t

[Rosemary2205]

9. Follow this link

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/tmarkg/donotcall.htm

I contacted my congressman because we were getting so many robocalls from a local sheriff well after he was elected (unfortunately) in spite of the fact we are on the do not call list. David Scott's office told me all governments are exempt. The only stipulation is government organizations can only call you between the stated hours. They suggested I go to a county commission meeting and complain. Appearantly there were a lot of complaints because the calls have stopped.

Imho if you need help stopping the military from calling you, and you have already opted out, then I would contact congresscritter or senator for help.