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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:04 PM Original message |
You know what would be way cool? A sliding scale for gas prices. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
1. They *already* pay more - that's what "lower mpg" *means*.... |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I get that. I *said* that. But they pay the same per gallon that I do. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Damn - you replied before I added on - lol! |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. So a fill-up |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. No, not "hate the rich" at all. Make the people who consume more pay more per gallon. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. I'm not down with charging different people different prices for the same product. |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I get that, and agree to some degree. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. :) Attack the problem on the *other* end, though, and you can satisfy *both*... |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Indeed. Your answer is better. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. It's good to work through the reasoning, though - I agree. |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
92. Who gets to decide what a "gas guzzler" is |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. Different pricing for the same product happens all the time |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Hmm. Interesting. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Hey, I only majored in psychology |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Heh - I had guessed that someone would bring up wholesale/retail pricing first, actually... |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Fuel conservation |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Where I said "conservation", perhaps "preservation" would have been clearer.... |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Well, then |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. #15. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Ok |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. (a) It takes exactly 1 model year to be effectual... |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #50 |
63. So you're telling me |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Ooooo... President Obama might read *MY* thread. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. No, I quite obviously didn't say that. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Then explain |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. It's all good. We've about exhausted the possibilities for this discussion. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
3. Don't we already have that? |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I am saying it'd be nice if I paid $2.00 per gallon to get 35 mpg and they pay |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. One thing you did make clear |
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rustydad (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
60. No, not at all difficult |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Check my other posts on this topic |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
54. you missed her point, she wants to really stick it to truckers, farmers, and anyone who feeds her |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. No. That wasn't my "point". As always, you're such a ray of sunshine. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #54 |
66. I didn't see that |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
8. The point is to get people off of gas. |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Agreed. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Pricing models are too difficult to implement. |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I know. It can't and won't happen. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Well I wish someone would come out and say the most patriotic thing we can do is to reduce our oil |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. *I'll* say it. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Yup, and convert our appliances to energy star rated stuff. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Perhaps not |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Who's to say you are driving the hummer that day? |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Chip the key. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. See how it gets more complicated though? |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Not necessarily |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. We can't even figure out how to count votes in this country. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I understand that votes are indeed counted badly |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. And what's wrong with the Hummer guy |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. No problem, but these potential card keys aren't the car itself. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Yes, you might have that happening |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
17. One dollar is not one dollar. It is varying amounts growing less |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. A progressive tax system |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. And your replies have caused me to reconsider the reality of implementing such a system |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
58. I'm sure there are are schemes that could be productive |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #58 |
67. I guess I think of this idea |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
55. thank you, achtungtoddler |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
19. Consider the average gas hog driver |
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ThoughtCriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
31. Add a $2 per gallon tax on any vehicle that has |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I'm down with that. |
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wvbygod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
45. That is a very good use of a hummer |
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siligut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
46. Great Idea! |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
47. What kind of car do you drive? |
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1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
49. but fuel efficiency is just an indicator of potential fuel consumption... |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #49 |
69. Certainly you could |
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1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. wrong thinking. the problem is the consumption of fuel, not what we think of the vehicle... |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #79 |
86. Can we safely assume |
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1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. i like the sliding scale idea, but it should be based on actual consumption... |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
51. Gee thanks asshole |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Asshole? |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. your OP felt uncaring and heartless to many of us |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Well, considering I have not written legislation on the topic yet, I imagine concessions for |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #57 |
74. Any system |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #53 |
77. Yes, asshole |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. You feel justified in calling me an "asshole" for bringing up discussion of the topic? |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. No |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. "another statement on how I hate SUVs/big ass vehicles and want to punish everyone who has one"? |
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1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. i don't think you're an ass, peacenikki... |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Good point. |
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1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. that why we love you. you get us thinking. :) n/t. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. I appreciate |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. Show me |
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enki23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
52. eg. call it a luxury tax for people who treat it like it's a luxury |
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galledgoblin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
61. great idea! |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. OK, but the pony will be replacing your fuel-consuming vehicle. |
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galledgoblin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #62 |
71. fair enough! |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Then you get discounted asparagus, tomatoes and beets. |
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galledgoblin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. sustainability! (n/t) |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #73 |
88. Mmm, I love asparagus! |
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Crabby Appleton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
76. What you are more likely to get is the opposite |
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ContraBass Black (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
89. Suppose that Hummer and boat are rarely moved, and thus consume significantly less fuel over time |
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Miss Carly (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
90. yeah, but what about the sliding scale for useage vs. mpg |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. 30 miles a week = barely more than 4 miles day |
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1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. not everyone drives every day... |
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Miss Carly (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #93 |
98. in MN winter it gets -20.....and there is usually 3 ft snow on the ground |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
95. Then let McDonalds charge fat people more for cheeseburgers |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. ?? |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Then use "Corvette" or "Mustang GT" or any other high-performance |
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Miss Carly (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
99. a few years ago I looked at a Dodge Charger, and it had 1,000 gas guzzler tax on it on the sticker |
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