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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 04:43 PM
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Hey, don't MOST American blacks have slaveowner ancestors?
I'm not a big Obama fan, but some of this stuff is just nuts.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 04:44 PM
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1. I doubt it
Edited on Sun Mar-04-07 04:44 PM by quinnox
Anyway, I thought that Obama's ancestors who were slave owners were on his mother's side (she was white)? I could be mistaken though.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 04:49 PM
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2. I believe that is probably true
Edited on Sun Mar-04-07 04:49 PM by Time for change
A great many male slaveowners had sex with their female slaves.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 04:52 PM
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3. ?
:shrug:
Obama is a slave-owner now? The things you miss without TV :crazy:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 04:53 PM
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4. Few American black folks are free of white blood (massa got around)...
... Your question is too fine-grained for me to have a confident opinion on, however.

It's just how white folks are - they see black folks, and they think slave. You can tell by the topics white folks talk about re: black folks.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 04:57 PM
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5. uhhh nope, my ansestors were rounded up and shoved on some land
so we wouldn't skin people...

on my daddy's side, we were nasty germans



actually I have heintz 57 in my blood, but I claim the indian and german and irish
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 05:01 PM
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6. I doubt if very many Americans are "pure blooded" anything
Most whites have a mixture of different European nations, and many have some Native American blood in there, too. Even tribal members of many nations are mixed. African Americans can be a mixture of just about anything--I believe Tina Turner, in her biography, "I Tina" said she was part Navaho.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 05:55 PM
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10. Agreed
One's family tree can be very interesting stuff. Mine has a few slave owners, a couple that deserted their NC Civil War Regiment (one was caught and hung), a car thief, an armed robber, some who ran speakeasies, a bunch of honest farmers, a Black hawk war veteran and the usual suspects. It's well worth doing the research.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 06:26 PM
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12. Agreed
Mine go back to the Mayflower and the folks who greeted the Mayflower as well. But I think the robbers and mystics and eccentrics are the most interesting of the lot.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 05:15 PM
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7. not mine
my family was (were?) up in the mountains of Italy until the turn of the last century
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 05:16 PM
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8. A first person observation.
"Like the patriarchs of old our men all live in one house with their wives and concubines, and the mulattoes one sees in every family exactly resemble the white children." Mary Chesnut's Civil War Diary 1861

Note: Mary Chesnut was the wife of a wealthy official in the Confederate government. Well educated, well read, seemed to know everyone of significance in the south. She was very much ahead of her time for an aristocratic southern woman of the time. Her diary covers the period from just before the civil war to it's end and is fascinating reading.
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 05:26 PM
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9. worse than that
my mother's family is from Maryland going back to the 1600's. my mother has researched her family's geneology back on her father's side, and found out that her father's grandfather was a SLAVE OVERSEER. This would be the hired white man whose job it was to do the whipping and the raping. I have seen a picture of this ancestor of mine and he looks all of what you'd think a person doing that would look like, ugly and mean -this is not someone I want to be related to.

but there it is, and I am.

I am an american. Part of my ancestry disgusts me.



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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 05:59 PM
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11. Oh, so perhaps he might be related to Strom Thurmond! Hmm... What a revelation!
:sarcasm:
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