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Apologies if I am rude, but after seven years of watching and speaking to cluelessness, I am simply out of patience to be "politically correct" and polite about it.
First off, let me say that you are correct. In absolute terms, there is no question you are correct. So what? That had NOTHINg to do with the point I was making
If all you can see are the absolutes, then you are blind. I have said this thousands of times, typed it hundreds more here on DU and elsewhere.
Are you so blind that, unless it comes marching up the street with swastikas and kills millions industrially, you can't or won't see it? You cannot see that, if one removes the murderous violence and open racism from the equation, that there is little to no difference between Bushies and Nazis?
For example:
Bushies lie 98+% of the time. Nazis lied 98%+ of the time.
Bushies and Nazis both destroyed the Free Press of their Nations, first by creating their own Bushie/Nazi sub-media, then by intimidation and finally by State Pressure (like how the NYT sat on the warrantless wiretapping story for a year because the Bushies "asked" them to).
Bushies and Nazis both use demonization speech to describe their political enemies. (see Michael Savage and "Liberal Vermin", for a start)
Both Bushies and Nazis speak in absolutes.
Both Bushies and Nazis portray themselves as the absolute pinnacle of patriotism.
Both Bushies and Nazis believe anyone who disagrees with them in the slightest, is a verminous traitor.
Both Bushies and Nazis use highly sophisticated propaganda and the Big Lie to ultimately create a cultish mentality, insuring that once someone becomes a Bushie or Nazi, they cannot be turned back.
Bushies and Nazis think nothing of performing criminal acts, as they believe such is justified in defeating a greater evil (for the Bushies: Liberals; for the Nazis: Jews and Liberals).
When a Nazi is presented with facts that do not conform to Party Propaganda, they instantly dismiss it as "Jewish Propaganda", when a Bushie is presented with facts that do not conform to Party Propaganda, they instantly dismiss it as "Liberal Propaganda".
The Invasion of Iraq and the Invasion of Poland were each illegal invasions based on wholesale lies. Hitler also said he was "liberating" Poland. There's more...much MUCH more, but I trust I have made my point.
And you are giving me shit over BODY COUNTS?!? What a narrow vision you have. Guess the Bushies CAN'T be Nazis until their body count goes over six million, eh?
There are three links in my signature line. I suggest you read or watch them to further understand that there is so much more to it than simple body count and overt evil.
But the Bushies, like Caesar when he did the same thing to the Roman Republic, are smart. None smarter, at least in the areas of propaganda and converting a formerly free nation to an Inverted Totalitarianism.
Let me ask you a hypothetical question:
Let's say you are a wealthy man from a powerful political family. Your grandfather, as the whole family knows, but somehow the rest of the nation does not, sided with Hitler and actually tried to overthrow the US government, replacing it with fascist Military Dictatorship.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/document_20070723.shtmlHad he and his friends succeeded, your Granpda would have been Ambassador to Nazi Germany of the Fascist States of America. They did not succeed, but because they were wealthy aristocrats, neither did they hang for High Treason. The information was suppressed and kept from the American People "for the good of the country". This left your family name intact, in spite of being the greatest traitors to the USA since Benedict Arnold.
Your Poppy and many of Grandpa's friends, after WWII, brought over all his Nazi pals that he could save, giving many of them cushy jobs in the intelligence community.
http://www.operationpaperclip.info/Your Poppy even had known Nazis working for his campaign in 1988.
http://www.skepticfiles.org/socialis/bushnazi.htmNow we get to the question. What if you are someone who desires to fulfill Grandpa's dream, but the Nazi "brand" has been so discredited there is no way possible to achieve Grandpa's aims by direct, frontal action.
How would you go about fulfilling Grandpa's goals in the freest country in the world, one in which the central myth is breaking free from tyranny and a vow never to kneel to tyrants?
How would you do that? You'd have to be very careful, for any associations to the despised Nazi brand might wake people up early on, when it was still possible to do something about it. So you'd want to camouflage your efforts in every way possible, wouldn't you?
No one is saying the Bushies are responsible for nearly as much evil as the Nazis...YET, but to deny the long history between the Bush Family and the Nazis, and to say that only if such and such a body count is reached, we have fascism, only serves the tyrants and is gullible in the extreme. To ignore the deep similarity between Bushie words and actions to that of the Nazis in every signle area EXCEPT overt racism and violence, is to do the same.
I can say no more. Read the links I have provided. Pull your head out of your ass. Look beyond simple body counts and knee-jerk outrage.
I'm a Jew, and I did it. You can do it, too. Better hurry, because time is running out.