Did I hear George Will correctly??

[dkofos]

Listen to this he says HIM when refering to coulter

http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Download/14936/1/TW-Will-CPAC-Coulter-Rudy.wmv

[originalpckelly]

1. Yes, I know. C & L didn't put it down. I almost posted it...

but didn't out of sensitivity for trans DUers who'd be offended. But he did say it.

[dkofos]

3. To be honest, I wasn't thinking of them when I posted it.

[HardRocker05]

5. well maybe you should have. jeezus h. christ, is it any wonder that some of the GLBT folk here

on DU are a little "oversensitive." it is so tiring that there is no end to the amusement that some people here find with the issue of gender non-conformity. and of course it's not just here, it's ubiquitous throughout most of the world, but one hopes for a little higher standard on DU.

[dkofos]

16. Who died and left you master of the universe.

You really need to find some else that gives a shit about your feelings.

I DON'T

[sniffa]

26. your Lack of concern for the GLBT community is aLready weLL

documented. i'm gLad to see you staying the course.

*scribbLes in the super secret gay poLice dossier*

[Name removed]

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[Maven]

29. How about a ball gag?

Bondage isn't my thing, but as long as you're interested, might as well do something useful.

[dkofos]

30. Kick me, beat me, make me write bad checks!!

[Maven]

31. Bad checks are tacky.

Then again, I'm talking to someone who shares a sense of humor with George Will...

[dkofos]

32. Sorry Harve. George Will is a right wing conservative, he has no

sense of humor. And it would appear you don't either.

Your not one of them are you??

[Maven]

33. I bet you find Dane Cook funny.

Am I right or am I right?

This is the problem with being post-hip. All the people who are actually behind think they're ahead.

[dkofos]

34. who is he a rw friend

I used to think harvey korman was funny

[Maven]

35. Look him up.

He's bland, repetitive and he steals material.

[dkofos]

36. No time don't care see ya harv

[sniffa]

38. no time

have to go stop nucLear war.

[NMMNG]

50. Please tell me you have better taste

:yoiks:

[HardRocker05]

44. ooh, you're so tough. a real macho man. obviously not gay... or liberal or "PC." we can all

just aspire to be like you some day, because god knows, there's just too much caring in the world today.

[dkofos]

46. sorry nim. Wrong on all counts.

go piss someone else off

[Jamastiene]

47. Gee, thanks for the insult.

Got anything constructive to do, other than state your preference for Faux News and be as offensive as possible?

[hlthe2b]

14. I really not sure about the whole thing. with Coulter.

I know when DUers do the ("Manncoulter") thing it has offended some of our trans community, but I think mainly because her gender is being used, almost as a slur. That I can certainly understand.

On the other hand, if the inside the beltway crowd knows this story to be true (just assuming)and if I could try to put myself in their (our trans DUers) place, I'd be peeved that she might be implying there was something wrong with transexuals by keeping it secret.

I find her disgusting, but it certainly has nothing to do with gender, possible change of gender, or anything related. :shrug:

[Carni]

28. Really? People are offended by the ManCoulter business?

I had no idea and usually call her "man"...but frankly I don't see what's to be offended about.

She poses as a woman of the right, bitches about gays , women democrats etc and yet she looks like a man.

I guess I don't see how taking jabs at *her* for being such a hypocrite is offensive to the transgender folks.

[ScreamingMeemie]

39. People, even here, tend to use "the hypocrisy of it all" to write themselves

a pass for truly horrible offensive crap. Most of the time it deals with equating everything bad about the RW to being gay, lesbian, bisexual and/or transgendered.

[sniffa]

41. you're being humorphobic again

[ScreamingMeemie]

43. Yeah... I guess I should lighten up and just

get over it already.

:hi:

[Carni]

48. I guess I just don't get the intrigue

No one is saying that the transgendered are akin to Ann Coulter
(or that they look like her etc)

I see nothing wrong with pointing out that while she pretends to be a pious right winged values type of a woman she seems to bear some physical attributes of a man.

That is Ann Coulter's problem not some entire communities problem...

Just my 2 cents

[ScreamingMeemie]

49. I see something wrong with it... I think perhaps the ones who

see nothing wrong with it aren't thinking of the feelings of the GLBT community and can't possibly put themselves in anyone else's shoes.

Just my 2 cents.

[jimshoes]

2. What does he know,....

and when did he find out? Inquiring minds want to know.:silly:

[Aviation Pro]

4. "Less said about him the better...." (snicker)

let me guess, Ann was an Andy.

[Flubadubya]

6. "The less said about WHOM the better."

Sorry to burst your bubble, but you know old George Will. That's exactly what he said. :shrug:

[AlCzervik]

7. i listened to it 4 times, sounded like "Him" to me.

[Flubadubya]

8. Oh well, I heard "whom" the first time I listened to it.

For what it's worth my profession is medical transcription where every day, day after day, I have to decipher what tongue-tied and marble-mouthed doctors are saying. I have developed quite an acute ear. Sorry, it is defintely "whom". Listen again, perhaps. :shrug: --again. :)

[AlCzervik]

9. well you're the professional so i will defer to you.

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[ProfessorGAC]

24. But, That Makes No Grammatical Sense

Would Will false erudition allow him to make such a grammatical error. Yes, whom would follow "about", but the syntax is wrong. So, i find it hard to believe Will said "whom".
The Professor

[Flubadubya]

25. Nothing wrong with the syntax...

Will: "... all of them carnivores and looking for red meat..."

Steph: "Getting it from Ann Coulter."

Will: "...well, the less said about whom the better." (whom = reference to Ann Coulter)... oh well.


So what's wrong with that? Nothing!


Ya know, I don't really care what anybody believes about this. It's really not a big deal. I just don't appreciate offering an alternative view (and a reasonable one at that) and have my ass attacked like I was some dumb freeper myself. It's really quite childish.

Ah, forget it! :grr:

[hlthe2b]

15. Even if he did say "him," Wills was starting to talk about Romney

when Steph interrupted to bring up COulter. So, it is possible that he might have said "him," referring to Romney, before his "brain" caught up to the fact George had brought up Coulter.

[patrice]

10. Will is the type to be a stickler about pronoun case. n/t

[Boo Boo]

11. "...less said about WHOM, the better." /nt

[jimshoes]

12. To my old ear it sounded like "him"

and I don't think the word "whom" quite fits there. Just my $.02. :)

[OneGrassRoot]

13. I thought I heard it, too, when I watched this morning! LOL n/t

[Ganja Ninja]

18. I thought that's what I heard him say.

I wonder if it was deliberate?

[dkofos]

19. Freudian slip perhaps

[Jack Rabbit]

20. I may be the minority here

. . . but I heard her.

And I agree with Mr. Will.

[dkofos]

22. You may also need a hearing exam

[spinbaby]

40. He definitely said "him"

Very definite "m" on the end of that word.

[Flubadubya]

42. Whom ends with "m" also. n/t

[Mugsy]

21. No, he clearly says "her".

That's what I heard when I watched it on TV Sunday and again listening to the video today.

[dkofos]

23. See post #26

[d_b]

37. Will knows.

[HardRocker05]

45. here's a minority opinion: i don't care if he said it or not. freakin grow up, people. nt