Thank you, Apple

[question everything]

Just got a "software update" for my Mac that includes a daylight saving time update.

This means, I suppose, that the Mac will automatically change its clock on 3/11 and not on 4/8.

[Deja Q]

1. I'll thank HP for providing my iPaq and update and Microsoft for doing the same too.

I'll still rant on Microsoft and Apple for their offshoring and teacher bashing, however. At least, until either of them offers a SOLUTION to go with their griping. Mine is to stay with where I'm at and not upgrade or buy anything new from them.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=236118

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=257523

(the links are worth a click...)


BTW: When did Apple RELEASE the DST patch? HP got theirs out last week and Microsoft's website suggests that, after months' worth of revisions, they got it right on 01 March 2007. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928388

[LifeDuringWartime]

14. January 8th

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305056

I didn't know about the change until I saw the update.

[Jamastiene]

2. My PC has been doing that for years.

You mean the fantastic Mac hasn't?

I just had to. I couldn't resist.

[bicentennial_baby]

3. Daylight Savings Time is different this year...

This is something different..

[Jamastiene]

5. I was just play goading the MAC lovers.

I always do. I'll admit being jealous I cannot afford one or more to the point, the software for one if I had one. I just had to keep it light hearted. Why is daylight savings time (a practice I have never liked or understood) different this year.

[Elwood P Dowd]

10. You can run your Windows software on Macs

Plus, the prices for a new Mac starts at $599.00.

[question everything]

15. Congress passed a law a couple of years ago

lengthening the duration of daylight saving time... to save energy.

Wonder how long this will last.

And many computers mavens were warning about computers not up to date.. almost like Y2K.

Until I got that update today, I was debating whether to change it manually 3/11 and then back when the computer was going to to that 4/8.

[NYCGirl]

4. Well, considering this is the first time Daylight Savings has been changed,

that's pretty impressive.

[Jamastiene]

6. What has it changed?

It's always been an annoying thing to have to deal with to me, but why has it changed?

[NYCGirl]

7. The day the time is changed went from 4/8 to 3/11

Is your computer equipped to deal with it?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/05/technology/05daylight.html

Two years ago, when Congress passed a law to extend daylight saving time by a month, the move seemed a harmless step that would let the nation burn a little less fossil fuel and enjoy a bit more sunshine.

Representative Fred Upton, a Michigan Republican, predicted that children would rejoice at the prospect of an extra hour of daylight trick-or-treating on Halloween. But there is no rejoicing among corporate technology managers.

The change takes effect Sunday, as daylight saving time begins three weeks earlier (and ends a week later, on the first Sunday in November). And many companies are scrambling to reset BlackBerry e-mail devices, desktop PCs and big data-center computers used to automate payrolls, purchasing and manufacturing.

This puts the United States out of sync with the rest of the world for longer than usual this spring, almost certainly disrupting not only computers but also the business and travel schedules of companies, workers and travelers. Most of Europe goes to daylight saving time March 25, two weeks after America, while most of Asia, Africa and South America do not observe daylight saving time at all.

[Jamastiene]

8. Windows has an automatic time synchronization server

that my computer synchronizes with. It'll just synchronize to that. Saves me all the trouble we used to have of clicking, ok, yeah, dst has kicked in confirm update of time stuff. I like it better this way.

[Poiuyt]

9. Daylight-saving bug could foil computers

Daylight-saving bug could foil computers
POSTED: 11:16 a.m. EST, February 19, 2007

(AP) -- For three weeks this March and April, Microsoft Corp. warns that users of its calendar programs "should view any appointments ... as suspect until they communicate with all meeting invitees."

Wow, that's sort of jarring -- is something treacherous afoot?

Actually, it's a potential problem in any software that was programmed before a 2005 law decreed that daylight-saving time would start three weeks earlier and end one week later, beginning this year. Congress decided that more early evening daylight would translate into energy savings.

Software created earlier is set to automatically advance its timekeeping by one hour on the first Sunday in April, not the second Sunday in March (that's March 11 this year).

The result is a glitch reminiscent of the Y2K bug, when cataclysmic crashes were feared if computers interpreted the year 2000 as 1900 and couldn't reconcile time appearing to move backward. This bug is much less threatening, but it could cause head-scratching episodes when some computers are an hour off.

more -

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/02/19/daylight.saving.bug.ap/index.html

[Jamastiene]

12. I just checked on the Windows web site and

my automatic updates apparently already updated my system clock. I guess we'll know next Sunday night or Monday morning if it's really fixed. I'm just a simple home user though. I don't think it could affect anything really really important. Thanks for the warning though.

[ellie]

13. A company-wide e-mail went

out that said the same thing. I can't stand PCs.

[Little Wing]

17. Actually your windows has already updated itself a few weeks ago

with a patch

[IChing]

11. Apple already gave you the update

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305056

In an off topic, but apple related, OSX has an application to summarize any article on your computer or internet if you use safari and OSX.


http://www.techpwn.com/?p=228

[question everything]

16. Oh, I just let that software icon jump when there are updates

Until recently I would just quit, since they were about iTune and iPod that I do not use.

However recently I finally upgraded to 10.4 and decided to accept all those updates.

[IChing]

18. Did you try or know of that summarize program?

It is truly amazing and accurate, I use it on scholarly articles and books on the web which cuts down reading time
I know that microsoft word has it, but that only works for word programs and not on web articles.


Glad you updated to 10.4.

[question everything]

21. No, I don't

At some point I accepted that I will never really know all the programs that I use, will never have the time to read about them, and since softwares have evolved "for dummies" I just let them do their tasks.

When I purchased this G4 dual processor four years ago I was at first annoyed with all the programs that treated me like a dummy but since then I have made my peace with them. A long road since we got our first Mac in 1987, and then the Performa in 1996.

[alfredo]

19. That one has been out for a while. I read about this problem

today.

Here:


http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,129550-c,industrynews/article.html



Among the titles in that extended support category are Windows 2000, Exchange Server 2000 and Outlook 2000, the e-mail and calendar client included with Office 2000.

For users running that software, Microsoft charges $4,000 per product for DST fixes. For that amount, customers can apply the patches to all systems in their organizations, including branch offices and affiliates, said Sweatt. "All they can't do is redistribute them," he said.

The $4,000 fee is a dramatic price cut from the $40,000-per-product charge that Microsoft set in 2006. "We believe we had to do the right thing for our customers, so we did something on the fee," explained Sweatt. "There is a cost involved in producing this, but we're not making money on . It recovers just a part of the cost of development and providing support." (((((this is corporate speak for "Nobody was buying at $40,000"))))


Anyway, us home users don't have to worry about that.

[Nutmegger]

20. LINK to MS Windows DST Update

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/cp_dst