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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 06:24 PM
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is there some way to list all the times stories were run about Obama/Hillary misstatements? then...
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 06:25 PM by Gabi Hayes
do another one about McCain's?

then show how many times/days the furor over each one lasted?

David Shuster just led his clipfest today with that bit about Hillary lying about sniper fire, mentioning that it got shown over and over and over, much to her disadvantage

WTF about that latest in a long series of McBush lies/inaccuracies/idiocies (said he voted for Kristina aid, when he didn't)? how much play does anything asinine/untrue grampaw says get, especially in comparison do the dems/now Obama.

I'd like to know if there's any way to get some sort of comparison. I don't really care about anything but TV, because that's just the was it is in this modern world. most of the Public doesn't have the time/inclination/interest to find out what's really going on. they need to be spoonfed. anything more complicated than bumpersticker phraseology is just to much for them, and it's EXACTLY why they've been successful over the last twenty seven years: they are MASTERS of MARKETING

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/bender2.html

Karl Rove & the Spectre of Freud’s Nephew
by Stephen Bender


"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country… We are governed, our minds molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized… "

So opens Propaganda (1928), one of several strikingly frank analyses of western social psychology written by Edward Bernays. This nephew of Sigmund Freud founded the public relations industry in the United States.

Mr. Bernays lived a fascinating life. He first got involved in high stakes politics when he "warmed up" the dour Calvin Coolidge by arranging the first presidential celebrity photo op in 1928. For the private sector, Bernays engineered a most notorious publicity stunt for the American Tobacco Company, by single-handedly neutralizing the taboo against women smoking in public. He organized a "Torches of Freedom" march down Broadway by ten smoking debutantes during the 1929 Easter Parade. With the help of feminists – some of whom understood the "right to smoke" as libratory – Bernays expertly publicized this spectacle, thus setting in motion the expected stir on op-ed pages across the land.

For Bernays, truth in public affairs did not exist per se. Rather, truth was the product of the "public relations counsel" forging prevailing "public opinion." It should be said that he readily recognized the ethical implications of his work, as witnessed in his later anti-smoking advocacy, after the dangers of cigarettes became known in the late-1950s. He could also be, in his own curious way, a humanitarian – as reflected in his work promoting the NAACP and anti-syphilis public education.

For Bernays, however, the necessity of controlling the public mind was a crucially important matter confronting the better element, a group in which he clearly included himself. In his first work, the hugely influential Crystallizing Public Opinion (1923), Bernays noted that the establishment of public education and the gradual extension of the right to vote caused consternation among western elites. The use of public relations techniques, then, was a way for the minority to "so mold the mind of the masses that they will throw their newly gained strength in the desired direction."

......on to Rove from there, with a quick stop for Goebbels. think Rove didn't spend a lot of time studying these two?



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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 06:36 PM
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1. All I know of the working of Rove's mind is that he was on the debate team
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 06:36 PM by truedelphi
And studied hard to figure out how to control and thus win whatever debate he was in.

I'm not sure back when he was in high school, that telling the Big Lie was the acceptable practice, but Rove certainly doesn't mind doing that now.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 06:37 PM
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2. The Shuster story really wasn't that bad
I think you're overreacting a bit. The big storyline right now is that Hillary is about to get out of this race. I think that Chris Matthews phrased it as doing an autopsy on a political corpse. Now that Hillary's campaign is finished, they want to look at what went wrong.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 06:51 PM
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3. I was only using that clip about the sniper to illustrate the point. that's what made me
think of this.

they ran that story over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

day after day after day.

how many times did they run the McBush fiasco over his not knowing the difference between Shia/Sunni, or not knowing about Khameni being the boss in Iran, and not Ahmedinijad (sp?)?

point is that the M$M is treating McBush even better, I think, than they did B*** in both 2000/2004, especially 2000, when not one negative story about ever had any legs, except perhaps the drunk driving thing at the end, and that was just a dodge to cover up something else that had been dredged up (can't remember now), which, if played out, would have been much, much worse than a simple DUI
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 07:32 PM
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5. Everybody knows that the Dems are going to win
that's what made the Dem Primary race much more interesting. I do agree that McCain got a free pass because he worked the press well, convincing them that he was a maverick.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 07:01 PM
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4. typical example, thanks to cynatnite
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