Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

As a Healthcare "Provider" at the doctoral level:

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 05:29 PM
Original message
As a Healthcare "Provider" at the doctoral level:
the coverage of health issues on television, particularly the cable news channels infuriates me.

First of all (actually I typed "Frist of all", which was an unintended double-entendre), since no one on TV has examined the patient or the corpse or the remains, statements concerning the condition of same are entirely specious and without merit. For example: when Sen. Johnson took ill, there was a nearly universal presumptive diagnosis of stroke. Fellows such as Dr. Gupta on CNN were careful to say that they hadn't blah blah blah BUT IF IT WERE A STROKE THEN blah blah blah. Before long, stroke links were up and running on CNN and MSNBC, followed by the rhetorical equivalent of funereal dirges for which the Soviets were famous. Did anyone postulate: low blood sugar, exhaustion, or...A-V malformation? If they did, it wasn't prominent. Now even if it were a stroke or cerebro-vascular accident, no one, and I mean NO ONE knows anything at all whatsoever without patient contact and diagnosis via the objective tests given to these victims. You just don't know. Period. No amount of hypothesizing will give you a correct answer - even if you were proven right, it would be classified as a 'lucky guess' and when I was in school, that wasn't good enough for the attending.

Second, what makes anyone think that they're being told the truth about the results of any tests or evaluations? If you are of the mind that "they" wouldn't lie about that, think Wareen Commission Autopsy results, or consider the terrific job "they" did more recently letting you know of the complete safety of the WTC site. They never lie about 'health matters'. :sarcasm: The fact that a man of the VP's health was put on a partially depressurized airplane for 25000 miles of travel during a time of extreme stress is...well, it's just brilliant medically. Does anyone else here recall when Nixon travelled with phlebitis? They said he must have been suicidal to do so. Here they say that he just developed symptoms. Sure about that?

Third, what the networks should do when health issues are paramount is to pre-empt fools like Wolfie and Tucker and their ilk, and get a real physician with significant academic and clinical credentials to manage the verbiage - have the docs discuss the news and put it in perspective as though the audience were the family of the patient. docs I know have no problem saying, "I have no idea - we'll have to wait." If a family member insists upon ridiculous protocols, the doc just walks away. Anyone who has ever dealt with competent health care professionals knows that there is no percentage for them in hypothesis when no objective facts are known. It's just counter-intuitive.

In sum, my problem with the coverage is that you have the blind, deaf, and dumb, leading the masses and in this case, as with any other academic endeavor, you can't fake or feign competence. These media types have no knowledge of anything substantive - we know that from observation - so what would qualify them to lead a discussion about pathology, circulation, cancer, Warfarin therapy, cardiovascular disease, reflex sympathetic dystrophy, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis...or in my case, even tooth decay? Answer is: they can't.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 05:56 PM
Response to Original message
1. well said
i was wondering about cheney`s sudden blockage and thought of phlebitis. as bad as his heart and health is it`s a wonder he survived the trip.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. It was a mistake to go...
bad judgement.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Or the suicide bomb wasn't the only attempt.
Bush would never let him resign in disgrace, but a state funeral for a sitting VEEP? Now there's a distraction.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. i find the whole thing rather weird....
how could they do this? And he's a lot of things but he is no dope in this regard. The fact of the matter is that even though he isn't confined to his seat (economy class syndrome) you can get sick on a flight.

Risky business.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 08:31 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. Of course, he basically travels with a hospital.
And it ain't Walter Reed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 08:33 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. True but
there are some things NO ONE can fix once they've gone awry.

consider a total decompensation: these guys are on so many meds and they're so delicately balanced; all you need is one event and there begins a downhill cascade which is impossible to stop.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. Oh, stop trying to cheer me up.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 02:55 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC