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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 02:55 PM Original message |
Dear Senator Obama: please promise to retire the word "Homeland". |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. "Homeland"="Fatherland" which is just creepy and wronf. |
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DinahMoeHum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. "Homeland" = "Motherland", too. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
70. No. Homeland= Heimat |
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Amy6627 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
2. OH YES!!!!!! K&R n/t |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
3. Yes! Now that the Bushlers are no longer in power we must retire their terminology! |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
5. I agree. It sounded like a 1930's Nazi term to me, i.e. "fatherland". |
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Frustratedlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Get rid of FEMA while you're at it. |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. BUSH's fema's a failure. Do you mean change the name of fema to |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. No, the Country's name is OK. We just need to make sure that |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #7 |
59. Before Bush FEMA was a competent, professionally run organization. Bush wrecked it--MIHOP. nt |
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bperci108 (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
85. Only since the Mammonites have been in charge... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. No. The German word is "heimat." Homeland. |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I didn't mean the homeland meant fatherland. I just meant that it |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. I agree. It has the same ring of fascism. I can't stand it. |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 08:26 PM Response to Reply #28 |
45. You can read some of Hitler's speeches made during the late |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
6. k&r |
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Amerigo Vespucci (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
8. "War on Terra" should leave the building, just like Elvis |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Plus Freedom Anything |
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rbixby (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
34. Every time I see 'War on Terra" |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
9. Yes, please!!! I have always been disgusted by the term |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
12. Absolutely |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
14. I"ve never been a big fan of the term, but it has a long history |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. In the words of Cheney: So? |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. So, while I am no fan of the word, I also know that its use doesn't make one a "nazi" |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
15. Absolutely - that term gives me the creeps every time I hear it. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
16. For those of us who speak German, that word has horrible associations. |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
19. 100% in agreement, have hated "Homeland" from its first use |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. and when was its first use? |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. who cares? it's CREEPY. surely you understand that. |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. First *I* heard it used in reference to this country was by Bush** |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. if you want to be enlightened: |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. I was living outside the country in '98 |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. "Fatherland" is NOT a fascist or Nazi term. |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I understand that |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I understand. It's clear that the use of "homeland" was designed for ideological purposes. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. except it was first used by the Hart/Rudman Commission and by Bill CLinton before 9/11 |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Oh, it was definitely bipartisan. |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I wonder if the Dems can find their integrity after this election |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 07:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. "that sort of nationalism is the last thing an imperialist country like the US needs" |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
52. There you go: Nationalism = Patriotism for the ignorant masses. |
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DiehardLiberal (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
87. I absolutely agree! |
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Extend a Hand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
23. yes! yes! yes! |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
27. Let's end the usage of "spreading democracy" as "waging unjhustified war" too. |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
32. Abso-fuckin'-lutely!!! |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
38. I think it's really cool and it's helping me get in touch with my inner fascist... |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Wow - that's DUzy material! |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. I should use the "sarcasm" icon more often... |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 12:30 AM Response to Reply #48 |
62. I thought so. But, like I said, I was frazzled, so wasn't sure I could trust my instinct. |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 08:52 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. In real life... |
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Homer Wells (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
40. AMEN!!!! |
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Wcross (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
42. I've hated that from day one. It makes me think of the Nazi term "Fatherland". |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
43. "The Homeland" - Every time Bush** says it,, my skin crawls.. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
44. I totally agree. It's not only creepy, it's really rather inaccurate. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
46. I sort of liked it -- I like home |
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Elidor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
47. Let's reform the "Security" part as well |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
49. And "Treasure" Too. |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
50. Rename DHS the Department of Infrastructure Management |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
51. Absolutely. nt |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
53. definitely, |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
54. I've hated that since I first heard it |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
55. I agree. And thanks for working this issue. |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
56. Couldn't agree more. I wish Obama would make a campaign |
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SalviaBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
57. Hear Hear |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
58. If Obama's administration would just very quietly drop the term from everything I would be happy |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
60. Hell YEAH!! I can get behind that!! |
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Miss Chybil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
61. I agree. "Homeland" is not the nomenclature we are used to |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #61 |
69. Remember "national"? What was wrong with National Security? |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
63. K&R! "Homeland" reminds me of the Nazi's "fatherland." |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 03:32 AM Response to Original message |
64. Yah Vol! Dumpen da Nazzi words!! Skol! |
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tuckessee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
66. Not a chance of that happening. |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
67. I always get a few thumbsup when I sport this sticker in my truck window: |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
68. I was thinking the same thing! Let's drop the pseudo-Naziesque lingo, please. |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
71. how 'bout he just dismantle the whole charade. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #71 |
82. true enough. |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
72. While we're at it, let's ditch "heartland" too |
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Sick_of_Rethuggery (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
73. Needs said! |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
74. He should change it to Land o' Goshen Security. |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
75. Yep. Icky fascist propaganda word. Good post. n/t |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
76. Absolutely! It still makes my skin crawl after 7 years. |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
77. YES!!!!!!! I've hated it from the first time I heard Bush use it. Great idea! |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. It's a disgusting, Orwellian, fascist sounding word |
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southern_belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
79. k & r n/t |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
80. Here, Here |
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mckara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
81. What? You Don't Like Living In Bush's Reich? |
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27inCali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
83. the term smacks of Nazism |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
84. GET RID IF IT.....its code for GOOPERSTAN......its all about Framing the dialogue |
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mmm413 (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
86. YES! |
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Tumbulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
88. yes (nt) |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
89. Hell yeah. |
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ileen4justice (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-14-08 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
90. BETTER: GET RID OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND PATRIOT ACT |
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