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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:28 PM
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What the hell was Hillary doing in Kentucky? This accent is frightening!
Was she just joking around or was this serious???? :yoiks:

http://www.ifilm.com/profile/breitbart/video/2829104
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:30 PM
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1. She was quoting an old hymn
but, geez, this clip is everywhere today - this is what happens when things are isolated out of context!
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:30 PM
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2. Oh Gawd - tell me she's doing a Bush
:puke:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:50 PM
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14. Nothing more, nothing less
but MSM will not discuss Bush.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:33 PM
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3. If it's Monday
(or Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday or Sunday) on DU, it must be Bash Hillary Day. :shrug:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:43 PM
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6. The question was- is she joking around, or is she serious?
Edited on Mon Mar-05-07 06:43 PM by Dr Fate
Why not try to craft an answer instead of writing it off this honest observation as "bashing"?

The GOP/media is going to call her on this- may as well have an answer or correct the problem before then.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:48 PM
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10. it is bashing, though
it's obvious that's she hamming it up in that clip...

and that it's been posted numerous times already her at DU, and, as you say, the GOP is going to go after this - it's pretty clear that the people posting this link have questionable motives.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 07:02 PM
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26. Perfect retort- thanks. That is all I was asking for.
I prefer an actual retort based on facts as opposed to the mere accuasation of "bashing"

I had not seen the other threads, I apologize.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:49 PM
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12. She was quoting something
and did not speak that way during the entire speech
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 07:03 PM
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27. Good response- much better than the mere accusation of "bashing." n/t
n/t
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Bronyraurus Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 07:19 PM
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30. How do you know?
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 07:33 PM
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35. Because I watched the speech on TV
duh - I'm not just making this stuff up.

Here's a link to a clip of her speech:

http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/politics/2007/03/04/sot.selma.clinton.cnn&wm=10
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Bronyraurus Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 07:45 PM
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37. So why did she
continue to use that accent when talking about Mayor Palmer of Trenton, NJ?
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 08:00 PM
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39. Because she was still in Alabama and in front of a Southern audience
it's about one's location and not of whom one is speaking. Or would you prefer it if she switched accents whenever she switched topics? Now *that* would be fun!
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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:40 PM
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4. God I Wish Hillary Would Quit Pandering
She does herself a grave disservice trying to be something she's not.

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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:43 PM
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5. They were making fun of it on my local radio station this morning.
I'm in Tennessee...

Is she trying, on purpose, to isolate the South from the Democratic Party even further?
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:52 PM
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17. I've been listening to clips of her from Selma
She was patronizing and condescending in her speech. It was embarassing.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:43 PM
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7. Some people pick up involuntarily the accent of people
speaking to them. I wonder if Hillary is such a person.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:46 PM
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8. People do, but usually takes longer than a stop-over
for the accent to take effect.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:48 PM
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11. Well, there was that twenty-year stopover in Arkansas
which is where she originally picked up a Southern accent. As a Southerner who no longer lives in the south, I know that my accent comes and goes very easily.
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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:50 PM
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This Was More Than An Affected Southern Accent
This was an attempt to simulate the drawl of a black poet.

The idea was admirable, the execution was poor, and the results...at least with respect to the "laugh at Hillary" response from the right wing...were to be expected.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:50 PM
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15. I hear ya.
I have a very thick southern accent and I was raised in the West.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:52 PM
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18. But hers didn't sound genuine - and, being a Southerner, myself,
I never heard her have a Southern accent, even as she became First Lady straight from Arkansas.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:56 PM
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23. She uses a slight Southern accent sometimes
and, of course, there are a variety of Southern accents. The accent from this isolated clip was very plainly put-on, as she was quoting something, but she did use a slight Southern accent during the rest of the speech, and I've heard her use it in other speeches. I know my accent sneaks in whenever I'm amongst other Southerners.
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Bronyraurus Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 07:20 PM
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31. Hillary never had a southern accent.
She's always had that pseduo-Chicago accent.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 07:36 PM
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36. If you've ever seen speaking clips of her from when she lived in Arkansas
she definitely had a Southern accent. These days, it comes and goes, but I've heard her use it more than once. And, yes, she's always had that Chicago accent, too - since she grew up in the Chicago area, I guess she'll never shake that one.
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madville Donating Member (743 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 07:33 PM
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34. I guess that after 7 years in NY
Edited on Mon Mar-05-07 07:35 PM by madville
"Well, there was that twenty-year stopover in Arkansas"

I guess with that reasoning after 7 years in NY when her and Bill are home for about 12 hours it sounds like an episode of the Sopranos around the house. :) j/k

I live right near the FL/AL/GA state line and know people from all over the country and have never heard a "Southern" accent quite like that. We were all laughing about it at work this morning when I played it on the computer. It brought all us Democrats and Republicans together for a brief moment :)
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 11:12 PM
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41. I can appreciate what you're saying...
Edited on Mon Mar-05-07 11:20 PM by LiberalVoice
But her accent was not "coming and going".

Listen to the way she said "power" in that clip. I spent alot of years in the south and a if I recall, her accent could be compared to a backwards hillbilly. If she was really trying to speak with that accent to connect with the south then she's an idiot. If she was trying to be funny about the way southerners talk then shes an even bigger idiot. Or maybe i'm just really stoned :)

Edit: Saw your post about reading the hymn. Do you have a link? Cuz now im stoned and interested. lol
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 07:29 PM
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33. I will start talking in brogue when speaking with an irish person
in a bar for the first time!

I'm not saying this is Hillary, merely that it's something that does in fact happen.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:46 PM
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9. It was taken out of context. See below
Edited on Mon Mar-05-07 06:49 PM by Connie_Corleone
(From Talking Points Memo)

"But as always, a simple fact-check shows this latest wingnut preoccupation to be highly dishonest. The audio clip Drudge linked to cherry-picked that quote and removed it completely from its context, which would have shown that Hillary wasn't adopting this accent or grammar or language as her own at all.

Rather, it turns out that Hillary was actually quoting the hymn lyrics of someone else -- while clearly and very openly imitating (not very well, it turns out) the cadences she thought the lyrics would traditionally have been delivered in. There was nothing phony about it at all."

More at http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/horsesmouth/2007/03/yet_another_win.php

(On Edit: She should've left out the southern accent when quoting the hymn.)
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:50 PM
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13. Yep.
But funny nobody in the media every mentions when Bush does it while pandering on purpose....
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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:52 PM
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19. I Heard Rush Mock A Black Man's Voice On His Show Today
The man had called to disagree with the Fat One.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:51 PM
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16. Thanks for the link
I've been trying to explain the context to people all day! Though, you're right, she shouldn't have used the accent during the quote, simply because it can be isolated and misinterpreted as it has been!
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:53 PM
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20. I'm sure it was taken out of context - but the problem is that
all of the South is now hearing JUST THAT CLIP and nothing more.

Perception is 90 percent of it, you know.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:57 PM
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24. Oh, I agree. This was my first time hearing the clip today.
Edited on Mon Mar-05-07 06:58 PM by Connie_Corleone
I just knew that had to have been someone else and not Hillary sounding like that. Then I saw on TPM an explanation.

But, you're right about perception.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:54 PM
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21. Gee...Hillary taken out of context on DU...nahhh couldn't happen..
Same people were probably incensed at the way the "Dean Scream" was played over and over...

The DU left/right wing Hillary bash of the day...
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 06:56 PM
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22. Thank you for the info...
I was sure it was taken out of context, but that would never stop the likes of Drudge from doing his dirty work.
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Bronyraurus Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 07:23 PM
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32. Are you telling me
that there is a hymn somewhere about Mayor Palmer from Trenton, New Jersey? What hymn is that?
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La_Fourmi_Rouge Donating Member (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 07:01 PM
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25. She has been at Bill's side for 3 decades
and she still cannot speak convincingly. She does not have the gift, and never will have it.

She makes Al Gore 2000 look like James Brown.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 07:04 PM
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28. Apparently you can't spell DRUDGE without the DU...
Seems he has become the vehicle of choice lately to attack Hillary Clinton...

I'm sure he appreciates the help!!!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 07:14 PM
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29. My God...can it get any more depressing?...
there is enough totally fucked up shit to piss and moan about, without resorting to Hillary's twang when citing something. I have no confidence in any candidate, but this kind of shit is so puerile, or MSM-esque.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 07:50 PM
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38. Totally insulting to her audience. No limit to the Clinton's pandering and
what did ever do for black people to win him such admiration from them???
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-05-07 08:19 PM
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40. Odd that the audience she was "insulting"
Were cheering her.

I'm not a big HIllary fan, but this is just stupid.
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