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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 08:39 PM Original message |
If Iran was attacked by Israel what would Iran do? |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. Iran would attack Israel for certain... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
32. I doubt it because it would give America an excuse to annihilate Iran . . . !!! |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 06:56 AM Response to Reply #32 |
60. The PNAC plan does not call for anhialating Iran. |
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anitar1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
70. Russia and China have already warned against |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. Sink our entire floatilla that is hanging out over there blockading. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. They don't have that kind of fire power |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. "Iran is a very military power." What did you mean by that? |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Sorry - left out the word "weak" nt |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 10:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
34. I think you may have left out more than that. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 06:23 AM Response to Reply #34 |
55. The fact are what they are |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
21. But if they closed off all oil exports..... |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. A much more likely course of action |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 08:01 AM Response to Reply #5 |
62. Not quite correct. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. Well - sort of kind of |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #62 |
83. We do some things really well from a military perspective.. |
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BrotherBuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
88. They have few modern weapons |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. RENSE rumor.. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
26. With what? |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. Lob missiles into Israel, Iraq and use Sunburns in the Gulf |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Iran does not have Sunburns. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. How are you so certain about what they have and don't have? |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Because there is absolutely no evidence that they have any. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
33. "we" |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 10:15 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Rense vs Janes Defense |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 06:21 AM Response to Reply #33 |
54. Are all your responses so substantive? nt |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
31. okie dokie expert! |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 06:31 AM Response to Reply #31 |
56. This is proof? |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #56 |
71. And you have access to Iranian intel how? |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Spent many a month floating around in the Persian Gulf |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Were you in Intel? Or a machinist mate? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #76 |
84. If he was it would be dated try Janes |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Who is Jane's intel contact in Iran? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. We buy oil from canada, mexico and Venez. Not Iran. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #89 |
95. When the nuclear genie is out of the bottle, we are all at risk |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. Dismissed |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #76 |
93. Tactical intellence is classified Secret |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. You're GUESSING they don't have Sunburns |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #96 |
101. Lets think rationally about this |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
69. Plus they can bomb the refineries and storage tanks in . .. . |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-25-08 09:14 AM Response to Reply #69 |
109. inaddition |
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angrycarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
6. I cant believe that Israel would put it's citizens at such grave risk. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 10:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
39. Maybe nuke subs are Cheney' s wet dream? |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
73. You have just described the doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction. |
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Wwagsthedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
7. Ras Tanura |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. That's my nightmare scenario |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
40. What does that mean? |
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Wwagsthedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 11:32 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Try google |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #46 |
75. Did learned all about that place. |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
81. Wanna See Some Really Ugly Oil Slicks? Ras Tamura Google Map Link |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
8. Iran would strike back, and this filthy administration |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
13. Revenge is a dish best served cold |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
14. (oops - never mind) |
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Texasgal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
15. They'd fight like hell |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
16. An attack on Iran could result in the collapse of the US |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Part 1 - Operation Muah'dib |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
37. Muah'dib vs the Harkonnens, |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #17 |
41. I wonder about one statement. "China consume much less petroleum" |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Yes, they are up to 7.2 Mbbl/dy, but still only 34% of US consumption rate n/t |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Well with their population numbers, that shouldn't take long. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 06:38 AM Response to Reply #44 |
59. We drive their economy by buying their crap |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #59 |
72. We need them more than they need us |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Nope. Google our GDP |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. But we'll starve and die too |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. We are not rome |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Part 2 - The Spice Processing Facilities |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Part 3 - The Spice Trade |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Fallon postscript |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 10:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
35. Why DUNE is not a great resource on this one.. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I disagree that they have no capabilities to respond |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 06:31 AM Response to Reply #38 |
57. If Israel took out there 3000 centrifuges |
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Newshues (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
18. Simple - turn off the oil. |
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TroglodyteScholar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
107. Turn off the oil? |
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Newshues (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. um, no |
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two gun sid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
23. Iran strikes back at Israel with Hezbollah and the US in Iraq... |
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Tektonik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
25. If Israel attacked Iran without just cause would destroy the Jewish state |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. That never seems to work out for the Arabs, 0/3 on that one |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Why wouldn't we back a war we're egging on? |
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jespwrs (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
30. Short answer: |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
42. It is helpful to study the Iraq/Iran War. |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
45. At some point in time Iran will retalliate. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
47. Perhaps Iran wants to provoke a war... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 02:05 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Iran hasn't started a conflict for something like 250 years |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 06:36 AM Response to Reply #49 |
58. That meme is wrong. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #58 |
66. That's quite a stretch. The embassy was pay back for |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #66 |
80. Their military carried it out, |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #58 |
68. Yes, we assassinated their elected officals and imposed a police state who destroyed their history |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #68 |
79. Read |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #79 |
97. Well yes, I'm well aware of that. It happened because we destabilized them by kililng Mossadeq |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. We serve our Interests |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Really, the only thing you said that makes them different from our allies is |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 09:23 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. We would let the house of saud burn |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 09:45 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Not multinationals who rebuild the nations we destroy or private security forces. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #49 |
65. Iran wouldn't start this conflict... |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 02:02 AM Response to Original message |
48. We DON'T know what would happen. That's why nobody |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 05:07 AM Response to Original message |
50. "First target for Iran: Qatar?" |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #50 |
92. My guess too and Ras Tanura as well |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #92 |
105. you really could never make this shit up |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 05:29 AM Response to Original message |
51. Analysis: A Mideast nuclear war? |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 05:53 AM Response to Original message |
52. An even bigger question is what would China and Russia do |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 06:07 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Yep. Iran is a very different kettle of fish. The US was bombing the Iraqi "No Fly Zones"... |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #52 |
94. Nothing militarily |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
61. Defend herself. Which Iran has a right to do. |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
63. Not much. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
64. First response would be an automatic trigger by Hamas and Hezbollah. |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #64 |
78. If the Iranian Leaders were real smart they would take |
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Nordic65 (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
82. There will be NO attack on Iran!!!! |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 09:48 PM Response to Reply #82 |
106. Yeah but they don't live in the real world. |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
87. Invade Iraq is always the answer |
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SergeyDovlatov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
103. Iran may send a few rockets to retaliate. No ground troups will be involved n/t |
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