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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:28 PM
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What are the odds Libby will cooperate
with Fitz and finger others to avoid a lengthy sentence recommendation?
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:29 PM
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1. Slim to zero
pardon me
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:38 PM
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12. bingo!
All his complaints of "I was their fall guy" was a strategy to cast doubt. Nothing more.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:30 PM
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2. I think the odds are pretty good...
because I doubt Bush will pardon him. But, I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:30 PM
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3. None. He'll be out pending appeal.
If George has properly stacked the appeals court, that could take years.
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:31 PM
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4. Well- the sentencing is in June...
Plenty of time to Sing pretty songs, IMHO.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:31 PM
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5. at the moment, there is no other investigation
for him to cooperate with.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:32 PM
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6. Actualy, I think Fitz asked for two minutes with Wells
in order to tell him, Let's talk because Libby has one last chance to cut a deal before he puts in his recommendations for sentencing. :woohoo:
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jaksavage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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7. stall, appeal,pardon
repeat after me
stall appeal pardon
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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8. I think it's hard to say.
If he's relying on a pardon then he won't. But in 2 years Bush's pardon power will run out and presumably further charges could be brought against him as well as the rest of the cabal at some point.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:36 PM
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9. He might since Cheney didn't come to his defense n/t
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:36 PM
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10. Zip imho n/t
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:37 PM
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11. Unfortunately, Zero!
Better odds that the sky will start raining dollar bills.
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:44 PM
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13. It depends.
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 01:45 PM by maine_raptor
Let's say Bush pardons Libby, and lets further say that the Dems get an investigation going in Congress.

Well, since Libby is pardoned, then that means that he has no legal reason (i.e. the "5th") not to talk. If he shuts up, then he can be charged with Contempt of Congress.

But if Bush DOESN'T pardon Libby, then when testifying before said Congressional Committee, he's opening himself up to a bunch more jail time.

The trick will be to put Libby back into legal jeopardy in such a way that he is force to create a new nickname - "Squealer".

I'm more interested if some Democratic Congress-critters are speaking to Fitz, rather than how Libby is trying to reduce the current amount of time he's facing.
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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:53 PM
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15. This is the ticket.
Let's say Bush pardons Libby, and lets further say that the Dems get an investigation going in Congress.

Well, since Libby is pardoned, then that means that he has no legal reason (i.e. the "5th") not to talk. If he shuts up, then he can be charged with Contempt of Congress.


Whether Libby's pardoned or not, he can be forced to testify. If he's pardoned, he no longer has 5th Amendment protection, and thus can be forced to sing, or perjure himself again. If he isn't pardoned, then Fitz or Congress can lean on him with his conviction, threaten him with hundreds of thousands of dollars of fines, legal fees, etc, and of course, prison time, then offer him immunity and a light sentence if he sings.

So I'm not surprised that Cheney's developed "health problems."
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:46 PM
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14. Depends on
*how long he can stay out on appeal in effect running out the clock on the Bush "administration" so Bush can pardon him on his last day or so and...

*how much he trusts that Bush will in fact pardon him

if he doesn't trust Bush and likely will go to prison while the appeals proceed, I think he'll sing like a bird. He'll feel he was thrown under the bus.

Of course, if he fears for his life if he sings which he legitimately should, he's just going to prison.
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