House Committee hearing on Attorney - discussion thread

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Live link at http://boss.streamos.com/real-live/judiciary/17223/56_judiciary-coj_2141_070212.ram

[cspanlovr]

1. Where? Do you have a link?

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4. Available on CNN Pipeline

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7. Thanks!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

Isn't this only limited to 3 minutes? eom

[Daphne08]

9. Here

http://judiciary.house.gov/

You'll need to scroll down a bit to see link to streaming video.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

15. Thank you! For others, click on schedule and after the schedule is the link. nt

[Sydnie]

36. Thank you for the link n/t

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2. Heather Wilson on the Committee!

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3. delete

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5. Please, where? btw, I was born in Brooklyn.

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6. DOJ Spokesman starting off...claims firings were deserved

No political favoritism...

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11. Administration committed to Senate confirmation of Attorneys

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8. link? please

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10. Go to CNN.com and select Pipeline (reqs a subscription)

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12. Linda Sanchez starts questioning

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13. DOJ guy going through reasons for firings...

McKay - way he went about advocating for particular policies

Cummins - (stumbling for an answer) asked to leave after indicating he would not serve his full term - to be replaced by someone returning from Iraq

Bogden - given importance of district, there was no interest (by him) in showing "vigor" in that office

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14. Interruptions as Iglesias reason comes up

but Conyers offers his time...

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16. DOJ claims Iglesias not showing appropriate management

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17. Chris Cannon (R-Utah) is now up

squabbling about distribution of time...

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18. "Great admirer" of DOJ guy

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20. suggesting inadequate proescutions by Lamm (91 out of 93 districts)

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21. "Need to prosecute" cases in border states

[originalpckelly]

22. So I guess 3000 prosecutions wasn't enough for them.

I wonder how many would be.

[Horse with no Name]

40. Maybe there is an empty broom closet

That he can borrow so he can talk all he wants...

[helderheid]

19. recommended

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23. Conyers now up

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24. Lamm responsible for "greatest corruption prosecution" this century

but her performance "so bad" (per DOJ) she had to be fired?

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25. Who was responsible for identifying Attorney's to be removed?

DOJ: Discussion in Atty. General's office.

(Conyers reviewing individuals involved)

[helderheid]

26. Conyers is being BRILLIANT in pulling the info out and showing how this guy is trying to cover up

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27. Conyers - asking about contacts with the White House...

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29. DOJ: Counsel to the President asked about position for Griffin (Iraq guy)

[originalpckelly]

28. Fella is a real weasel.

:eyes: :puke:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

32. Ummm Ummmm Ummmm Ummmm ... he's having problems getting out his lies. eom

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30. Who's up now? (I got called out of myt office)

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31. Republican asking if fired Atty's were supported in their prosecutions...

DOJ saying yes.

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33. Hank Johnson (D-Georgia) up...

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34. True that those who drew up the list had close ties to the WH?

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35. DOJ: Need to have close contact to do job

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37. Johnson: Are minutes of discussion meetings prepared?

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38. When recommendations made, did AG and DAG agree?

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39. Johnson: any written memoranda that summarizes the agreement?

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41. Probing for specific details of meetings/discussions

DOJ guy claims not aware of any

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42. Ric Keller (R-FLA) now up

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43. Reminding that Attorneys serve at pleasure of the President...

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44. asking if dismissal had anything to do with Duke Cunningham case

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45. "I have letters"

alledgedly complaining about failure to prosecute immigrant smuggling cases

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46. April 2006 - Border Patrol complaints about lack of prosecutions

AG - asked all US attorneys to do more

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47. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif) up

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48. Did Ms Lamm's firing disrupt ongoing corruption investigations?

pre top FBI official

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49. DOJ claims FBI agent's comments "inflammatory"

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50. Isn't it unprecedented for this many attorney's to be fired at the same time?

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51. Is it true all six attorney's in hearing received favorable ratings?

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52. Asks for letter of resignation from Mike Battle

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53. Asks for correspondence from members of Congress...

prior to firings.

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54. Tom Feeney (R-Fla) now up

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55. clarifying you can't fire for reasons of race, obs of justice, etc...

DOJ reiterates there were reasons in all of these cases

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56. Points out attorneys also have management responsiblities

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57. argues Administration is blamed no matter what they do...

blamed for firing Attorneys, but blamed for not quickly firing people involved in Walter Reed

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84. pretzel logic

:wtf:

we get yelled at when we don't fire the bad guys fast enough when cockroaches are uncovered.

don't we get any points for firing the good guys when cockroaches are uncovered?

Dammit, I Can't Win! Mongo Bu$h Only Pawn In Game Of Life!

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58. claims Dems also complained about lack of immigration prosecutions

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59. William D. Delahunt (D-Mass) up

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60. Do attorney's have discretion with DOJ guidelines?

yes

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61. Were Attorney;s given information on cause for termination? - No

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62. Asks to clarify precedent for 8 dismissals at once

DOJ doesn't have information available

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63. During Sanate hearing, Mr Cummins received phone call from Michal Elston

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64. Did he threaten Attorney's by revealing cause for firings

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65. DOJ claims this was "friendly advice"

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66. Asks for Mr Elston to be made available for House

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68. Conyers back up...

asking about the DiBagio firing and Gov Erlich

[originalpckelly]

67. Will Machella = nervous version of Jimmy Fallon.

Little fucking creep.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

69. Creep. Weasel. Worm.

He is revolting. Slithering around in his chair being as obtuse as possible.

[originalpckelly]

70. I know, these folks literally make you sick.

Such bureaucratic BS and evil.

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71. HOward Coble? Now up?

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72. suggestion Administratino shouldn't respond to press reports

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

74. That other Iraqi veteran affirmative action programs do you have?!!! nt

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73. Going on Griffin hiring - Iraq "affirmative action" program?

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75. Wasn't there Senate testimony Griffin not best person for job?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

76. He was saying that the man didn't have the qualifications! eom

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77. Did Karl Rove play any role in placement?

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78. Attorneys now coming up to testify...

Carol Lamm
David Iglesias
Daniel Bogdan
Paul Charlton
Bud Cummins
John McKay

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79. Attorney's making a joint statement (as in Senate hearing)

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80. won't speculate on reasons for firing

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81. Cong Sanchez asks if they want to respond to Mr Machella's testimoy?

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82. Bogdan: Finally got a reason today for his firing...

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83. Iglesias: contests DOJ claims for his removal

specific statistics on prosecutions in his office

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85. Charlton: Office management was supported by DOJ

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87. McKay: I resigned quietly

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86. We didn't complain about firings

but DOJ handling of diuspute was mismanaged

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88. Sanchez begins questioning of Mr Iglesias

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89. Until today, I didn't know reason for leaving

...got call from Mike Battle.

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90. "administratiion wants to go another way"

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91. "This came from on high"

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92. Reviewing calls from Pete Domenici and Heather Wilson

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93. Cannon back up

Questions to DOJ not intended to hurt Iglesias' reputation...

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94. but claims he's spculating on cause of firing

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97. Sorry - going to have to deal myself out...

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

95. This Congressman from Utah is such a tool. Talking about how Englesias talked

"ad nauseum" about why he was dismissed.

[helderheid]

96. Tell me about it.

[cascadiance]

98. I'll bet he and the mayor of Salt Lake City LOVE each other!

[cascadiance]

99. Starting up again... Conyers now asking questions.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

100. They were all fired on December 7th? Don't tell me that symbolism isn't important

to those bastards.

:tinfoil: and proud of it. :)

[Democrat 4 Ever]

101. Fired attorney was told he was being told to resign so Chucklenuts

could pack the US Attorney offices with Repubic appointees. They wanted to give their "guys" the opportunity to pad their resumes for future judgeships. Priceless.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

102. I would love to here that person's rebuttal on that! Meanwhile, see what I said about 12/7th!

[cascadiance]

103. So should we call it officially the "Pearl Harbor Day Massacre" now?

It seems fitting!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

106. Why do I keep hearing the tune of Alice's Restaurant going around my head? There's

a song in this. :)

In reality, this is no light matter.

[cascadiance]

104. Darrell Issa is now testifying!

along with Asa Hutchison and a four others I didn't catch their names.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

105. Issa is talking about border prosecutions. Is he on his soapbox here? eom