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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:14 PM
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The verdict caught them by suprise, here, per CNN
And I am amused that the defense attorney wants a new trial to establish Libby's innocence.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/06/cia.leak/index.html
Ted Wells, Libby's defense attorney, said he will file a motion for a new trial, or appeal the conviction if that motion is denied.

"We intend to keep fighting to establish his innocence," Wells said outside the federal courthouse. (Watch Wells' statement outside the courthouse Video)

As he walked into the courtroom to hear the verdict, Libby was calm and smiling. "There was almost a swagger," CNN's Brianna Keilar reported.

As the verdicts were read, Libby blinked and "it seemed as if he was somewhat surprised," Keilar reported.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:16 PM
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1. We want a *do-over* whines, Wells. n/t
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:18 PM
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4. The arrogance of it all is amazing.
They didn't think they would get convicted, and are whining they need another chance.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:19 PM
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6. Yeah, well I want a *do-over* on the 2000 and 2004 elections, too!
Maybe we can make a deal... :eyes:
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:17 PM
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2. Libby plans to flee to Paraguay on the airplane they used to abduct Hugo Chavez
...when they "suggested" that he go for a ride into exile. Ok, I made this up.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:18 PM
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3. well that's nice. now they will finally get a chance to establish his innocence.
and the blinking? maybe his contacts were bothering him.

i for one am glad that this is over so his lawyers can finally get a chance to establish his innocence. obviously they weren't given that opportunity before. so that's really good to know.










(and oh my god! if you don't know i'm being ultra sarcastic then i apologize for the upset.)
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:23 PM
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9. Perfect timing...
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 03:24 PM by Cerridwen
comedic timing, that is.

Just as I was starting to do that little puppy tilting its head to the side thingy thinking, wtf? Is orleans serious or ??? - I read your disclaimer. Perfect timing.


:rofl:

edit: tilting not turning

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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 02:04 AM
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14. (thank you. thank you.) (bow inserted here) (smile) n/t
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:19 PM
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5. He wasn't surprised, just well-coached. nt
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:21 PM
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8. or well-medicated. n/t
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:19 PM
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7. Like the guy who thought he bet on the right horse in the fix
boy was he surprised when someone called off the fix and didn't tell him
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 08:05 AM
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20. Hee. Like the switcheroo court-room scene in "The Untouchables".
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:24 PM
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10. Wells is just doing his jobShort of a breakdown on the stand
and the defendant admiting guilt, I've never seen a trial where there's a conviction and the Defense atty. didn't say "We're going to appeal! As to the "Motion for a new trial" goes,I think that was a made for TV moment.

Scooter is going to drag the sentencing out as long as he can with multiple motions in hopes to get to beyond Nov.08, so he can get a pardon.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:44 PM
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11. never going to happen
there is no grounds for a new trial.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:46 PM
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12. They've been used to being able to maneuver and manipulate
and bully and lie and get by with stuff for so long they became overly confident.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 04:37 PM
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13. If I were Libby, I'd get a new lawyer! I followed the trial closely via Firedoglake's live
blogging transcription, and I suspect that Wells' threw this game. It was a terrible defense. I think I could have put on a better defense myself, and I'm not even a lawyer. First off, he says Libby is the scapegoat of a WH/Rove conspiracy. Then he presents no evidence--nothing!--to support this claim. (It's certainly arguable, but he didn't argue it--he just threw it out there.) Secondly, he relied in all pre-trial and early trial rulings on a purported "bad memory" defense, but never put Libby on the stand--which is essential to a "bad memory" defense. (Even the judge said so.) Thirdly, he continually throughout the trial kept calling Valerie Plame "the wife"--a bad, bad habit, which I'm sure he picked up from Libby and Cheney, designed to alienate every woman on the jury and maybe all the men as well. (Fitz finally called him on it--in a beautiful trial moment, in Fitz's close--"This is a human being," he said--not "the wife.") And, I swear, I was thinking by this time that Wells was working for Bush, Cheney and Rove. Finally, Wells was all over the map, in his close, and ended by CRYING--shedding tears--in front of jury, saying, "This man has been under my protection for a month. Give him back to me!"

I mean, it was unbelievable. I was open-mouthed. What can Wells have possibly been thinking?

Meanwhile, Fitz wove an iron net around Libby, with a clear, methodical, case and excellent presentation. Fitz was economical and dead on. Wells was a wild man.

I suppose, if you don't have a case, that's when you use histrionics--if you think it will help your client. That's your job, after all. Or maybe after Bush, Cheney and Rove all told Wells to "go jump in lake," that's all he had left. That could be it--not him throwing the case, but all those promises to help Libby evaporating. Only Cheney could testify to how busy Libby was (besides Libby himself), re his memory, and as to how Libby could have gotten all mixed up about Cheney being the one who told him Plame's identity. Only Rove could testify why he outed Plame to Novak, and what roll he played in making Libby the fall guy. Only Bush could testify whether or not any of this was authorized by him.

A third possibility is that this entire affair is an "Aspen" conspiracy, to which Libby has agreed. My sense of him is that he is a true believer sort of NeoCon, and may think that he is protecting the Big Plan (invasion of Iran). This may be why Fitz was permitted by the "powers that be" to go this far, but no further. There is an alternative theory that he felt that Libby was the weak spot in the conspiracy, and went for broke getting this conviction--and had to make deals with Ari Fleischer, Rove, Judith Miller and others--operatives of the outings--in order to pressure the topmost culprits, Cheney and Bush. I favor this theory. But it could be argued that things are going according to plan, from the Bush Junta point of view. One of the most dangerous things they've done (dangerous to themselves) was this frontal assault on the CIA, and, if it stops here--with Libby as the fall guy, and no one prosecutable on the main crime, because of Libby's obstruction--they have weathered it.

And in all of these scenarios, a serious defense of Libby doesn't really figure. Either Wells threw the case, or the Bush Junta threw the case (by not showing up). Wells may be in on it. Who knows? I'm just saying--the defense stunk. Granted, the defense is not obliged to "put on a case," merely to defend and cast doubt. But they were truly lousy even at that--and, as I said, seemed to go out of their way to insult the jury.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 02:16 AM
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15. They underestimated Patrick Fitzgerald to the end
One juror kept him from getting that fifth count. One juror.

Mr. Jeffers argued the defense on that particular count.

Mr. Wells -- what can I say? I'm sure he's a nice man, but I wonder to myself if he thought PJF was going to collapse like a house of cards and he'd coast on through. The prosecution opening statement was amazing, and the liveblogging and courtroom witnesses from firedoglake for the closing and summation (including two former federal prosecutors,) said that it was one of the more amazing and riveting things they've ever seen.

>But they were truly lousy even at that--and, as I said, seemed to go out of their way to insult the jury.<

And that's what five million dollars looks like.

Julie

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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 04:46 AM
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16. Republics are always surprised
Edited on Wed Mar-07-07 04:47 AM by radfringe
9-11: Surprised
Katrina: Suprised
Iraq Insurgency: Surprised
FOLEY and the Interns: Surprised
2006 Mid-terms: Surprised
Reaction to Fed Prosecutors firings: Surprised
Conditions at Walter Reed et al: Surprised
Libby Verdict: Surprised
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 04:49 AM
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17. Yeah, nobody could have foreseen that....any of that.
:sarcasm:
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 05:01 AM
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self delete
Edited on Wed Mar-07-07 05:01 AM by Virginian
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 05:01 AM
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18. Maybe next time it'll be 5 out of 5 guilty. n/t
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 05:13 AM
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19. The objective is to run the clock out as much as possible
If Libby can forgo going to jail before the presidential election he can be pardoned with no cost to Bush or the GOP presidential candidate.
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