Gas up tonight.! May be just a rumor...

[Contrary1]

but a friend called me a little while ago. His granddaughter works at Walmart in Indianapolis, and the employees there were told to fill up tonight as gas was going to jump 80 cents per gallon tomorrow.

[whistle]

1. I filled up last Saturday, it was $3.979, 80 cents more tomorrow, wow!

[gateley]

2. Even if it's not 'real', gas is going to go up anyway,

so why not fill up today? :shrug:

Thanks.

[ThatsMyBarack]

3. Dunnit tonite....

On the way home from work! :thumbsup:

[taterguy]

4. How about not using gas in the first place?

Sorry, I keep forgetting that we "need" our cars

[Mojambo]

8. Sure lets just all stop going to work and starve to death.

I keep forgetting that a lot of people are just completely disconnected from reality.

[taterguy]

10. My reality is that I manage to get to work just fine most days without gas

YMMV of course

[Mojambo]

13. Well, that's just great for you.

Perhaps if you had the ability to look outside your reality a little bit you might not sound like such a ninny.

[Bluenorthwest]

15. What do you mean by 'most' days

And how do you travel on the rest of the days?

[fudge stripe cookays]

45. And continue to harp on it in...

every fucking thread you post in. Quit being such a sanctimonious prick.

Your song has one verse, and we've heard it. Over and over and over.

[taterguy]

54. Is there anything sanctimonious in this thread?

I'll be holding my breath, waiting for your apology

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=7628379&mesg_id=7628379

[fudge stripe cookays]

63. You will never get one.

You are not happy unless you point fingers at people who need their cars.

As someone with MS who will never be able to ride a bike again, every time you post this, I see red. You'd better hope you never lose your health. What will you do then?

[bobbolink]

75. for you, fudge strip cookays...

:hug:

Your life is a struggle, and it's so very sad that there are so many "progressives" who have a cement wall around their hearts.

:hug:

[fudge stripe cookays]

89. Thanks, bob.

Here's one for you as well.

:hug:

[devilgrrl]

85. You tell him honey!

:hug:

[fudge stripe cookays]

90. Thanks sweetie.

My bod may not be where it was, but there's nothing wrong with my mouth. It's as big as it ever was.

[northzax]

93. take the bus?

like many other people do?

[fudge stripe cookays]

105. Many other people are...

able to walk to a bus stop, and many other people work somewhere that has a bus stop out front. I do not.

[bobbolink]

113. With all you're dealing with, I'm amazed that you can reply with civility

to such UNCIVIL and UNCARING crap!

:hug: to you.

:yourock:

[fudge stripe cookays]

121. Thanks again, hun.

:hug:

[bobbolink]

112. You're all heart, aren't you?

This is exactly the mentality that is making this country UGLY.

[Vanje]

79. Again you prove your awesomeness

I bow to your superiority.....
at least over people who live in Kansas.

[verdalaven]

48. I don't usually do this, but I have really had enough

I am very tired of the people who look down on those of us who need our cars to get to work. In every thread about gas prices, there is at least one poster who can't help patting him/herself on the back for being so much better than the rest of us, because they don't own or use a car.

So what? Good for you! As for me - I work in an office 12 miles from my home. Biking is no good for me, because I must look nice as required by our dress code. They don't provide a shower at work, nor am I going to walk around stinking all day just to make you happy.

My husband's job is 42 miles away and don't tell me that he could find something closer, we live in an economically depressed area and his GOOD PAYING job cannot be duplicated close to home.

Moving closer to our jobs is impossible, as well, as he goes South and I go North. Even if we live in the middle, our gas usage does not change.

So, we are stuck. We are part of the evil minions that use gas to get to work, to pay our bills to "live the dream" of being wage slaves. We do not live in a mansion, we do not have many extras, we do try to live as green as possible - and we certainly do not need your judgment. Nor does anyone else here who owns a car.

Isn't life hard enough? Really?

[Iris]

56. I understand what you are saying.

And the fact is, we can only do what we can do in a consumer and oil driven economy. It's great that some individuals have been able to structure their lives w/o depending on gas or an automobile, but the rest of us have to survive as well.

[Hannah Bell]

88. yep. the market mentality is, vote with your dollars to produce social change,

supposed "progressives" have adopted it - buy green, ride a bike, blah blah, uncoordinated individual actions will add up to social change.

i did it all, vegetarian, bought 90% used goods, didn't own a car until i was 40, & never a new one. 30 years of it.

hey, it didn't produce shit in the way of social change, except another "lifestyle" issue for people to play one-upsmanship games with.

when the powers that be desire social change, they don't leave it to their rigged "market" - they use propaganda, institutions, legislation, fines, & guns.

[MissDeeds]

92. I'm in the same situation

My husband has to drive 72 miles each way to work. When we moved here, I was a professor at a college four blocks from our back door. My husband said he'd rather drive 72 miles and live in a town with a fairly low cost of living than to move somewhere in between and both of us drive 35 miles each way. Of course, that was 15 years ago when gas was still reasonably priced.

Now, we nearly have the house paid off, and it doesn't make sense to sell it and buy another, and start another mortgage. He does have a fuel efficient car, and has the kind of job that allows him to work from home a couple days a week, but the gas prices still hurt.

[northzax]

99. ok, and I am sure the owners of Plantations

(your lifestyle is based on cheap oil obtained from totalitarian states, theirs was based on cheap labour) felt the same way when the Southern Plantation lifestyle collapsed. much the same as the artificially cheap petroleum lifestyle of the US is collapsing. both were based on unsustainable resources.

if you knew that on January 1, 2010 gasoline would be ten dollars a gallon, how would you start to change your life? if you had known on JAnuary 1, 2000 that gas would be $4.50 a gallon today, how would you have changed your life?

I understand that internal combustion engines are useful tools, but every minute that one is running we move a little bit closer to irreversible climate change. Is one person the problem? of course not, just as one person isn't the solution. but a hundred million are, and can be. Will my taking a cloth bag to the farmers market on saturday change anything? not really. but it's not making anything worse, and that's a nice start. can everyone live without a car? of course not. can everyone reduce their driving? probably, but that's a question only they can answer. Just remember, everytime you turn on your Toyota, you are killing a polar bear AND an Iraqi. make sure it's worth it.

I personally find nothing richer (and I am not directing this at you) than people who lecture me about polluting the air with smoke when they spend hours a day pumping noxious fumes of their own into the wild blue yonder.

[Clark2008]

122. Thank you for pointing out the most obvious reason why many

women will NEVER be able to bike to work.

Most of our workplaces don't have showers and, yet, we're required to wear dress slacks or dresses and shoes with at least some heel - not exactly something you can ride a bike in. We could take a change of clothes, but we'd stink up the joint something awful.

Yes, I drive to work (well, not tomorrow. I got rear-ended on the interstate tonight, so hubby will have to take me until I can get the car into a shop and get it fixed). I have to drive to work. There is a bus stop near my house, but my work is out in the county, where there is no bus lines.

Until public transportation catches up with need, I will always have to drive to work.

[aroach]

128. It's also pretty hard...

It's also pretty hard to haul small children around on a bike. I don't think I could manage it. The bus would cost me far more than gas does since I'd have to pay fare for the kids too.

[dysfunctional press]

58. ymmv?

:shrug:

[Common Sense Party]

72. "Your Mileage May Vary" n/t

[Marrah_G]

59. You are fortunate!

Most of us still have to rely on cars to survive though. Hopefully Obama will put electric cars and mass transit high on the to-do list.

[EstimatedProphet]

62. Bloody well good for you.

Of course, you don't work on, say, a farm. So, those people that do should simply quit using that pesky gas and not go to work or ship their food to markets. See how long you can continue to live on a diet of smug.

[Renew Deal]

68. You're so special

:dunce:

[bobbolink]

74. It must be satisfying to be so superior.

:eyes:

Your understanding and compassion, however, are underwhelming.

[Vanje]

78. My hat is off to you.

You are so very much better than the rest of us.

[Vanje]

81. My reality is...that I am fucked

I live 20 miles from work.
I love my job but it dos'nt pay much. A HUGE percentage of my paycheck goes to gas up my compact pick up.
To break even ,I raise sheep, grow a garden, keep hens for eggs, a goat for milk, and maintain an acre or 2 strictly for wildlife.

Which shopuld I do? Quit my job? Or sell my place.........(for nothing , in the present real estate market.

You're so fucking smart.
Tell me what to do.

[carlyhippy]

83. just keep doing what you are doing, you are a survivor

you are lucky in that you have the resources to pretty much sustain yourself as far as food, or at least make a dent in how much you have to spend at the store. Everyone is freaking out, and with the price of gas, they have a good reason to...but it's gonna settle down IMHO, hopefully sooner than later, or we are all gonna be in a world of hurt.

[northzax]

102. welcome to the world of hurt

I am sorry to say.

[uppityperson]

114. Do you grow all your food also?

Just checking how far your gas independence goes.

[hlthe2b]

11. How about not being sanctimonious...

I'd ditch my car in a heartbeat, if I had an option to do so. I'd move within walking distance of work, if I could sell my current place (forget it), find something affordable (forget it). I drive to work and back--period. Everything else is foot or bike pedal...

I'm guessing there are countless more like me that do not have mass transit nor 4 day flex work weeks as an option.

[verdalaven]

49. Count me as one.....

I wish public transportation was offered in our area, but it isn't. My husband's job did adopt a four day work week, which helps a little.

[Contrary1]

14. We live about six miles from the nearest bus stop...

First bus shows up about 7:30am. Take a long ride downtown, get a transfer, walk 10 blocks, and catch
the second bus to finish the trip.

Husband's getting close to 60, and he is supposed to be at work by 7:00am anyway. So yeah, we "need" a car.

[RayOfHope]

17. Look, I'm glad you ride a bike to work. That's great, and I would except

I have to tote a 5 and 7 year old to work, and there is zero public transportation in my town. We purposely moved as close as we could to our workplace (husband and I are both teachers who teach in the same building, we ride together). We have minimized our trips, and we do bike to work (2 miles from here) when we have to make an after-hours trip in. But biking every day isn't do-able for us. We, and I'm sure many others, are doing what we can, even if it doesn't involve commuting by bike every day.

[carlyhippy]

32. We are just a small fraction, our commute to work in a vehicle is just a dent in the scheme of thing

if we walk/ride a bike/use public transport, shouldn't other countries do the same, we are not the only country with vehicles. A global scale unified effort to use less fuel would be nice, but seeing the current situation with tension between countries, I don't see it happening.

Make 18 wheelers more fuel efficient, hybrid 18 wheelers? We have to have truckers and trains to haul food medicine, supplies, etc. Make trains, planes, transport vehicles fuel efficient, again it would be nice, but don't see it soon.

Have public transportation in most every city, that would help. We sure don't have anything remotely close to mass trans where I live.

I know that this is on everyone's mind. There are people out there who drive in their vehicles just to drive, there is nothing we can do about them. But people have to commute, go to the store, go to doctors appts out of town, have to live their lives, and alot of the time we need vehicles to do just this.

[Iris]

57. We can't control what other countries do AND the US consumes 26% of the world's energy resources

with only 5% of the world's population, so I'd say that our decreasing our vehicle use could make some dent in the consumption of energy. http://www.solarenergy.org/resources/energyfacts.html

[fudge stripe cookays]

44. I didn't even have....

to read the author to know this was you.

:eyes:

[Dogtown]

55. My wife would need to transfer

twice by bus and once by train to get to work.

We live in the Atlanta exurbs, it's the only place we could afford a house, 18 years ago.

Several counties in the metro area will not let "Marta" cross their borders (afraid that dusky folk will ride the train to burgle the McMansions). We live on the wrong side of one of these counties and she has to cross it to get to the city.


If we could sell the house, we'd emigrate from the CSA in an east coast heartbeat.

We have a '96 Tercel that I keep tuned and running efficiently. We're considering the purchase of a Smart.

Please don't be smug if your circumstances are easier. It's pretty rude and suggests a character flaw.

[libnnc]

64. I think you're full of shit

I live in your city...it ain't that big. If you really ride as much as you say you do, I would have SEEN you.

I've seen the bicycle lady (you know damn well who I'm talking about) more than I've seen you.


I don't believe you at all.

[JANdad]

76. Oh Snap!

You go!

[taterguy]

103. If I was gonna make stuff up about myself I'd make up far more interesting stuff

You'll just have to trust me on that.

How often have you seen me pumping gas?

:shrug:

[ShadesOfGrey]

69. Wow! Did you even read your own sig line?

[JANdad]

77. You just don't know when to quit do you?

You have got to be the biggest jerk on this message board. I personally think you just like stirring up shit. You are childish, immature and dare I say...uninformed...get a life!

[LSK]

87. do you have kids??? does it snow where you live for 3 months nonstop???

Stop assuming everyone has your lifestyle.

[northzax]

95. so if your lifestyle is built on the consumption of gasoline

be prepared to budget for more and more expense every month. your lifestyle is based on easy access to cheap petroleum. Those days are as long gone as cheap labour on plantations. adjust.

[LSK]

98. I did that when gas hit $3 in 2005

However telling people to get on a bike may not be realistic when you have to bring a 2 year child around in the dead of winter in a northern city.

[northzax]

100. are there not children in Moscow?

St. Petersburg? Stockholm? Kiev? Warsaw? Irktusk? Ulaanbaatar? Oslo? Helsinki?

but I will conceed the point. anyone who tells me that they only use the car when it is below 40 degrees outside or raining is free to complain about people who don't have cars talking to them about it, for now.

[verdalaven]

108. Are there no cars in Moscow?

I don't understand your post at all.

[uppityperson]

115. How big is your garden? Do you have a cow, goat or sheep?

[ShadesOfGrey]

118. Yes, he/she should tell us all how they manage to eat, sleep, and

live in the USA WITHOUT consuming any petroleum. I'm all ears.

[AngryOldDem]

111. Sure! Sounds like a plan!

I'll let my 17-year-old daughter, who's working to closing at her job, walk home after midnight tonight.

Hell -- I think I'll do the same! I live only about a mile from where I work, and I get off around 10-10:30 -- all I have to do is watch out for construction traffic and be careful as I walk under overpasses and stuff...but hey, I really don't need my car anyway.

Some people have no choice but to drive, and by the way, my mode of transportation is a 1988 Chevy Nova, so you really can't say I'm addicted to my car, either. It must be nice to have all the answers. Glad your life is that uncomplicated.

[Mojambo]

5. 80 cents. I don't think so.

8 cents maybe.

[pt22]

6. Well I must admit that is some right from the horse's mouth info.

:eyes:

[TheWatcher]

26. Then get back to your favorite TV shows and don't pay attention.

No one really asked for your snarkiness, and it's quite unnecessary.

Surely there must be some sitcom you could go giggle and snicker at instead.

[pt22]

31. Oh, dear, I wasn't aware I had been addressing you!

Or was I?

[TheWatcher]

42. How can I hope to defeat such Rapier Wit?

You weren't addressing me.

But since you asked, I'll give you a quick recap.

No, you were being a snarky little twit for no reason, I called you on it, and you responded with a half-assed attempt at clever wit.

That about sums it up.

How was Fox Reality Channel this evening?

Surprised you could tear yourself away from it long enough to belch out that little retort.

[madinmaryland]

101. Mr. Ed!!1!!

Is a horse of course....

[krabigirl]

7. Wouldn't surprise me, with the 4th weekend coming up.

[Crabby Appleton]

9. yep, nt

[SpiralHawk]

12. Republiconomics in action

The Grand Oil Party tucking it to America. Again. As usual.

[Ghost in the Machine]

18. Greedy Oil Pigs

[dixiegrrrrl]

30. Good graphic

permission to borrow and spread it widely?

[screembloodymurder]

16. Big oil is going to raise it 80 cents a day

until Congress approves drilling ANWAR.

[Initech]

25. Those greedy oil fuckers will use any excuse to make the prices go up.

ANWAR? Too contaminated. Must go somewhere else. Find somewhere else? Blame it on the war. War not enough? Make more war. Still not enough? Blame it on some natural disaster.

You could make a flow chart for all their excuses stretching 6 feet long.

[Heddi]

19. I just got this exact same thing in my email 2 minutes ago

Funny how both my email friend, and a stranger on the intertubes BOTH got a call from a friend, and that friend ALSO has a grand-daughter that works at Walmart in Indianapolis and was ALSO told to fill up tonight by her superiors!!!!!!!!

OH MY GOD! IT'S ON THE INTERNET...it must be true :eyes:

[Contrary1]

20. It was not on the internet...

I received the phone call. His granddaughter does work at Walmart. I would not have passed it along had I read it online.

:eyes: yourself.

[Dukkha]

34. I dismissed $4/gallon gas prediction earlier this year as alarmists panic

and here we are :(

[verdalaven]

50. As did I

and now "they" are predicting $7 by 2010. To say I am a believer (and pretty scared too) is an understatement.

[Heddi]

86. No. I'm telling you. I JUST GOT THIS SAME THING IN MY EMAIL

from a friend who knows someone whose granddaughter works at Walmart and who was told to gas up tonight (last night)

Maybe your friend is pulling your leg. Maybe the granddaughter is. I'm just telling you that I got the same message in an email just as I was reading this message on DU

[uppityperson]

116. I checked snopes and nothing there yet.

[flobee1]

21. I haven't put gas in my tank for a month

Filled up at $3.73/gal and haven't driven since. Yes, I still make it the 11 miles to work and 11 miles back home again(all uphill)but I have not spent a damn cent on gas since then. Even if it was 22 miles each way, I'd still do it!
a backpack and a good bike is all you need.
Sorry if it seeems harsh, but as far as I'm concerned, I'm going to enjoy watching the people that drive their gashog to the corner grocery spend themselves into homelessness because they can't give up the convenience.
I really dont feel their pain, I have no pity for them, and will enjoy their downfall


If it gets bad enough, people will find a diffrent way to travel

[Mojambo]

22. Taking joy in the misfortune of others

You're a noble one.

[Super Soaker Sniper]

33. People he does not even know

spends themselves into homelessness and his life is better how? He gets to do a fist pump and yell, "Woo Hoo!" Big whoop! :eyes:

[Frank Cannon]

51. People are actually dying because of this

Not that that fucking jerkoff cares.

[carlyhippy]

28. people who have gashogs usually have big families

have you ever tried to carry 60 lbs of groceries home on your bike or walking? You shouldn't enjoy other's downfall, it's bad karma.

Usually people who have "gashogs" can afford the gas, just feel glad you don't have their gas bill.

[elocs]

29. I haven't and won't put any gas in my car in the month of June and I still have half a tank.

Of course I haven't worked this month (just thought I'd take it off). When I was working my employment was only 3 miles from me so I only drove 6 miles a day to work, using 1 gallon a week. I have been riding my bike, but when I was working so close it really didn't seem worth the effort. Plus I was working at night.

[CK_John]

39. What makes you think your job will there much longer. we are all connected. n/t

[Frank Cannon]

52. Or that he'll remain healthy

I don't care how much "clean living" one does. A person's fortune can change in an instant, and often does. So many people tend to forget that.

[verdalaven]

53. How is your attitude different from the oil companies?

Or, for that matter, how is it different from the Republicans and their "base". They don't care about people, they care about money.

Do you actually care about anything except proving yourself "superior" to others?

[dysfunctional press]

60. the rest of us will enjoy it when your sprained ankle can't pedal a bike...

and we won't even worry about trying to feel your pain.
:woohoo:

[Marrah_G]

61. What a fucking asshole you are- welcome to ignore

[elizfeelinggreat]

67. If it gets bad enough they'll steal your bicycle

then what will you say?

[ShadesOfGrey]

70. 'a backpack and a good bike is all you need'...

The next time my 80 year old neighbor asks me for a ride I'll tell her that.

I hope all those people you enjoy watching suffer NEVER give you a lift.

Break a leg :-)

[Missy Vixen]

73. I think it's unfortunate

that I breathe the same air as someone like you.

Julie

[LanternWaste]

80. Not harsh at all...

"Sorry if it seeems harsh, but as far as I'm concerned..."

Not harsh at all-- merely tactless and without class.

[AngryOldDem]

117. Wow...assume much?

For some of us who don't drive "gashogs," driving is not so much a convenience as it is a necessity.

And don't get too complacent, Bub. Just about everything is tied to the price of oil, so unless you're living off the land, eating berries and living in caves, "their" downfall could very well mean yours, as well.

Glad you've found a way around the high gas prices. But what works for you doesn't necessarily work for the rest of us.

[carlyhippy]

23. it jumped here 10 cents just this afternoon

I filled up at 3.96 at the last station that had not yet changed their prices.

[The Straight Story]

37. damn, it is $4.59 here for reg unleaded in Bakersfield

A few places locally may be a tad cheaper, but that is about the avg I have been seeing.

[carlyhippy]

38. holy cow! I feel pretty fortunate

Carly

[Initech]

24. 80 cents a gallon? No fucking way!

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[Mojambo]

27. Maybe 80 cents between now and the 4th of July weekend

Which would be stunning enough.

[NightWatcher]

35. fill up (top off) everyday because the price is only gonna go higher

I dread the first hurricane in the gulf this year

[carlyhippy]

36. I paid 45.00 to fill my tank earlier

I don't drive a whole lot, so that tankfull will last me about a month, I try and put 20.00 a week in the tank whether it needs it or not, so I don't get sticker shock like I would if I had to fill it up from empty.

[tekisui]

46. Good advice.

We still have ONE pump in town under $4/gal. It went up one penny yesterday to 3.98.

[TheFarseer]

126. that's the only way I see it going up that much

a hurricane that is. We've been lucky we haven't had one since Katrina. I think this has got to be BS although another 20 cents would be NO surprise what-so-ever

[lonestarnot]

40. Someone must have an investment in oil futures. Fuck a walmart!

[hunter]

41. We'll all be so relieved when it's only 20 cents, won't we?

:yoiks:

[Hekate]

43. It's been $4.79 for regular at the Shell station here for a week. nt

[hogwyld]

71. That's pretty cheap, considering

all of you Californians are uber rich. :sarcasm:

[salin]

47. one thing you have to understand about Indiana...

rumours fly and conspriacy theories abound - and the gullible pass those things along. I had to leave and come back to see how true this reputation is. I would be really shocked to find gas prices up 80 cents today, here in Indianapolis. But what a great way for Walmart to boost their one day gas sales (presuming that this was one of the newer super stores that I think also sell gas cards and gas).

[hokies4ever]

65. Oh dear

this is the exact kind of paranoia that has fed into the oil speculation bubble.

[Recursion]

66. Underpants Gnomes, the revenge

1. Start a rumor that gas prices are going up
2. Watch people fly to the pumps
3. ???
4. Profit!

[MadinMo]

82. So how much did it go up in your area (overnight)? 6 cents here in SW Missouri

[carlyhippy]

84. 6 cents here too....glad I filled up yesterday before they changed the signs

Carly

[Two Truck]

91. well,

.02...
suburban Chicago Mobil.
Maybe they meant $.80 a tank?

[mnhtnbb]

94. $.05 overnight in Chapel Hill, NC

[leftofthedial]

96. And all of you should buy my CD tonight (That's 1-800-BUYLOTD!)

because it is officially going up to $12.50 tomorrow.

[taterguy]

104. As if people still pay for music

Nice try

[leftofthedial]

107. oh well...

[brooklynite]

97. Why would it?

There's been no equivalent spike in oil costs --just the relentless climb. Unless there's news about a disruption in flow, there's no way the entire indistry would raise prices 20% overnight.

[Subdivisions]

127. Actually, we're still living in an $90 per barrell world. Today, the record

was broken and a barrell now stands at $144.32. Imagine when the price at the pump catches up to that.

[theboss]

106. I always get my economic advice from the Night Manager at WalMart

Thanks.

[AccessGranted]

109. I think we all need to hold hands, sing a round of Kumbyah and relax!

More division - now we have the gasers and the no-gasers. (Singing)"Come on people now, smile on your brother, everybody get together and try to love one another right now". Where are my damned love beads?

[bobbolink]

119. "Those were the days, my friend...."

It's ever so much more fun to go for the jugular, donchaknow.

All the while claiming to be a person of "peace".

~~~handing over the love beads~~`

[AccessGranted]

120. Thanks

I feel better now.

[LWolf]

110. I did so.

Usually I wait until I'm running on fumes. Fewer trips to the gas station makes me happy, and not coincidentally uses less fuel, since there is only one gas station within my normal driving territory, a Chevron station priced a good 20 cents higher than everyone else.

I usually do 2-3 weeks on a tank of gas. These days, I'm afraid to wait that long before I fill up again; the shock is painful.

Today I took about 12 gallons of gas for 52.00.

[uppityperson]

123. kick for rumors.Still nothing on Snopes. I wonder if it was true.

[Contrary1]

124. Yeah, at least the rumor was true.

Gas went up 20 cents yesterday here in Indy. Better than .80. Saw that diesel was 4.52.

[uppityperson]

125. Ours dropped a nickle. Which is good since we're still higher than average.

[PBS Poll-435]

129. Crossed the 4.00 mark at many stations tonight in Dallas