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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 10:52 AM Original message |
***FISA Telco immunity stripping amendment being debated now*** |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
1. Yeah it's a good ammendment - Glenn Greenwald was mentioning it |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
2. oh boy here we go. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Rockefeller likes to be the speed bump. It's an ego issue. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
29. I believe he wrote this bill, or at least pushed it hard. He is the telecoms best friend. |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
4. Durbin called out McCain a little earlier about him not being there to vote |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
5. Spector saying that 70 Senators will not be briefed on the program |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. makes you think how many of them even read the Amendment? |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
6. Rockefeller says that he just can't talk about what the phone companies are doing |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
7. LOL, Bond trying to get Specter's time charged to Dodd's time |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. and Bonda offered some of his time to DIanne Feinstein the alst time they spoke about |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
8. Boxer up now |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
9. WHERE IS EVERYBODY?? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Dunno... but thank you for the details. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Busy fighting this piece of "legalizing obstruction of justice" crap!!! |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. where is everybody like who, like us? |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Yes, I was surprised that there weren't more people commenting when they were |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
10. Boxer doing a great job talking about why they created FISA in the first place |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
11. Boxer talking about the Declaration of Independence now |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
12. Hard Break for party lunches now. Can we get some Recs please? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I'd rec it again if I could. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
15. FISA and Spying for Dummies |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
17. hi guys. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. hey |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
21. rec 10 from me |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. There is a break now. It starts back up at 2:15. |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. And thanks for the rec |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
26. K & R ! |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. You would think that the US was the only country who ever got |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. we seem to do that, overreact. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #27 |
62. They have been trying to get this kind of crap sanctioned for decades... |
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Razoor (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
30. guess I tuned in too late. |
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Contrary1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
31. When this passes, and we all know it will... |
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MadrasT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
50. Priceless |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #31 |
113. when that happens, suddenly they'll decide that Dems invented it |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
32. Thom Hartman said that this started wiretapping started in |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. They have been debating an amendment to the bill |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
34. Debate is back on |
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Hope And Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
35. Kick! |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
36. Kit Bond speaking |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. blaa blaa blaa Carter blaa blaa blaa 9/11 blaa blaa blaa Clinton..... |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
37. yuk Kit Bond is up |
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
39. Did anyone hear the old drunk Bond |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
40. poor Arlen |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
41. oh this is such BS I hate listening to these repigs. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
42. kicking this |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
43. Arlan Specter up now |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
44. Keep up the good work guys, I have to go to a doctor's appt, check in later. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
45. Where is Obama for this one? |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
79. Didn't he say he'd vote for the amendment? nt |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
46. Bingaman up now. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
47. Frivolous lawsuits?! |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. k&r. . (running around & listening at the same time) |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. That was a republican calling them 'frivolous', right? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. yes, but we have many republican democrats who agree.... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. Sad but true. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. yes, Kit Bond I believe, vice-chair of intelligence committee.... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Spewing lies... FISA has worked fine for decades. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Jay Rockefeller, then, should know better... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. No... only necessary |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
48. oh geez kit bond is still talking |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
51. rockefeller seems like he sold his soul to the devil |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Or to the Telecoms... |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. go to opensecrets.org and see how much $ he's gotten from telecomms... |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. is all about the money, nothing else. |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #51 |
67. Among his 5 top contributors ATT & Verizon..this year alone $67,000 |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
53. this is such BS |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
54. F U Jay |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. I hope his constituents are hounding him. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
57. Rockefeller: we can't ammedn this bill because the rpesident won't sign it, and the telcoms will be |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. no matter what we will be screwed if this passes. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
63. where is Biden on this, I want to hear what he thinks about this? |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
65. I wish someone would crash in there and say how wrong this is!! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Hundreds of someones. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. They need to stand up for this IMO |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #70 |
81. I just hope all the Dems who are irate about this are calling |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
72. GO LEAHY GO!!!!!!!!! |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
73. Leahy saying this immunity is one branch of government telling the courts how to rule! |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Immunity would reward Bush for his illegal behavior |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
75. "This bill makes the courts the handmaidens to a cover-up!" |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
76. "They know the cases against the government have already been dismissed." |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
78. Are Obama or Clinton there? nt |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
80. If we don't win the White House this year we are screwed forever. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
82. Arlen Specter up now... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
83. I can't make myself listen any more, even to Sheldon Whitehouse. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
84. "Congressional Approval Falls to Single Digits for First Time Ever" |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
85. The Bush white house was confident that a "good faith threshold"... |
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
86. Rockefeller on the floor PUSHING |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Yep, he's of bloodthirsty Reptilian stock. $67,000 combined from ATT&Verizon has some |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Rockefeller argues that it is "apples and oranges" with respect to... |
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. He just pointed out the |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. IF the 9/11 official story is true, then.. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Specter also just pointed out... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. It's like a 'good cop / bad cop' act. (nt) |
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #92 |
100. So true, |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
93. K&R Thanks for posting this! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
94. Any updates? |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. Warner is going on about conservation, off shore drilling, |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Telecons. That's good. |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. Some body else on DU used it first, I can't remember who it was or where I saw it. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. I'm so sick of him. I wish he'd get out of the Senate!!! |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. Sen. John Warner (R) arguing in support of the government-telecom conspiracy n/t |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. Thanks. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
101. Who is speaking ? Sen. Car???? |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
103. Senator Carper arguing for immunity and the bill in general... |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Trying to set a precedent... |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #105 |
109. We see how those improvements have worked out in the past |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
104. Exclusivity provision... |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
106. What a joke! Repukes claiming to be "concerned" about peoples 'health care'!! |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. Sen. Wicklick is up. God aren't we the lucky one in MS. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. roflmfo!! |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. Warner was having 'severe palpitations' about something... |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #108 |
111. Yeah, I noticed that he thinks he's still 'in charge'! |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
112. This must be the arsenic repuke hour.... |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
114. Levin is up now! |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. Excellent statement by Sen. Levin... |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
115. Back to FISA.... and ugh... more repuke drivel... "lawsuits are fishing expedition"- Sen. Chambliss |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
116. Reid just said he's voting 'NO' on retroactive Immunity!!! |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #116 |
134. Then why doesn't he block the whole damn bill? He is the one who can. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
118. "I oppose Title II. It's way out of line." - Sen. Harry Reid |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
119. Go Dodd!!! |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. Thanking Kennedy, Boxer, Durbin |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. They've already said they're against retroactive immunity, |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. Thanks nt |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #122 |
132. Add Bingaman and Feingold to the list. n/t |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #132 |
135. and Leahy and Specter. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #119 |
123. great speech |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #123 |
128. He's hot and has been fighting this for a long time! |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #123 |
130. Bravo! rule of law vs. rule of men n/t |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. powerful words, worth a transcript n/t |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
124. vote around 11 am tomorrow |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
125. FISA vote 11:00am tomorrow! Did I hear that right? |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Yes |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #126 |
129. call. call, call, jam em up! |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
127. Vote on FISA Bill @ 11 AM tomorrow.... Dodd going off! ~ Woohoo! |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
133. Did the Senate adjourn for the day? |
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