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garybeck
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Wed Jul-09-08 06:14 PM Original message |
Telecom Immunity is a Red Herring. |
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mmonk
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Wed Jul-09-08 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. You've got it. |
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garybeck
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Wed Jul-09-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. so why is everyone, even Keith Olbermann and liberal blogs all focused on |
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ColbertWatcher
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Wed Jul-09-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Yet another reason why the GOP cannot continue in Washington one more year. n/t |
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mmonk
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Wed Jul-09-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Because that's the headfake, though a serious one. |
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EOTE
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Wed Jul-09-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. Because they're both extremely important. |
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garybeck
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Thu Jul-10-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #14 |
27. then why is immunity the first, and sometimes only, thing they talk about? |
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robinlynne
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Wed Jul-09-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. That has been going on since 2001. There are 41 lawsuits which were moving up in |
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AntiFascist
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Wed Jul-09-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Great explanation... |
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sicksicksick_N_tired
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Wed Jul-09-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. This is probably the most distressing post I've ever read. |
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mmonk
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Wed Jul-09-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. That could very well be true. |
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tkmorris
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Wed Jul-09-08 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
3. I couldn't agree more |
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garybeck
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Wed Jul-09-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. "We really need to get people to understand what this bill actually does." |
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robinlynne
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Wed Jul-09-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. The BILL can be revoked. The immunity cannot!!!!!!!!!! |
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Wizard777
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Thu Jul-10-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Not true. The immunity is conditional. They must rat out Bush to a Judge to get the immunity. |
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robinlynne
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Thu Jul-10-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Immunity given by Congress, the Senate and the president? |
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Wizard777
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Thu Jul-10-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. This could be an impropriety that could have it overturned by SCOTUS. |
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robinlynne
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Thu Jul-10-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. then what did they just do yesterday? |
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robinlynne
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Wed Jul-09-08 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
5. because the rest can be changed next year. the immunity can not. |
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garybeck
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Wed Jul-09-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Changed next year???? Wow, that's a big assumption. |
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robinlynne
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Wed Jul-09-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
23. just explaining why the immunity is more important than the bill itself. |
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robinlynne
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Wed Jul-09-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. The lawsuits would have shown that: |
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Wizard777
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Thu Jul-10-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #24 |
44. Why can't this come from Criminal Investigations? |
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sicksicksick_N_tired
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Wed Jul-09-08 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
7. Cool! Let's SPY all over the corporacrats and their repuglican base!!!! |
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The Backlash Cometh
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Wed Jul-09-08 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
11. We're really alone, you know. |
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fascisthunter
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Wed Jul-09-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. We really Need to Network and Create a Solid Left Movement |
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The Backlash Cometh
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Wed Jul-09-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Perhaps we should start with a movement that works with protecting |
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fascisthunter
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Wed Jul-09-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Well... we do have the ACLU |
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The Backlash Cometh
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Wed Jul-09-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Problem with the ACLU, |
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EFerrari
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Wed Jul-09-08 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
16. Immunity is not a red herring because it is immunity for Bush. |
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Wizard777
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Thu Jul-10-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. Can you show me the language in the bill that grants Bush immunity? |
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EFerrari
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Thu Jul-10-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. No: in closing down civil suits, you close down civil discovery |
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Wizard777
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Thu Jul-10-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. This bill does nothing to imped criminal prosecutions of anyone from Telecom to Bush. |
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EFerrari
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Thu Jul-10-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. That's precisely my point. You shut down civil suits |
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Wizard777
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Thu Jul-10-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Criminal cases rely upon Investigations. Not discovery. |
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EFerrari
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Thu Jul-10-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. And investigations seek information. A valuable venue |
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Wizard777
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Thu Jul-10-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. This is what you are failing to understand. They must turn states witness against Bush. |
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EFerrari
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Thu Jul-10-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. I'm not failing to understand anything. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Wed Jul-09-08 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
18. Exactly. The Telecoms should pay, but the real loss is the 4th Amendment. |
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chill_wind
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Wed Jul-09-08 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
25. A coverup of committed felonies. The coverup is the big, big problem. |
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garybeck
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Thu Jul-10-08 08:55 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. So how does giving immunity to the telecoms protect the government officials? |
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seafan
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Thu Jul-10-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Pardoning the criminal acts is accomplished by George W. Bush's pardon pen. |
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EFerrari
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Thu Jul-10-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. By shutting down civil suits. n/t |
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dogindia
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Thu Jul-10-08 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
33. I have come to believe that the repugs get by with all their nasty stuff because they believe they |
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ForrestGump
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Thu Jul-10-08 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
40. Red herring? |
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