Tweety keeps targeting CHEENEE but drinking Shrub KoolAid,plus what's with David BOIES?!!1

[UTUSN]

Clicking around for more Scooter fallout, yes, even on the HANNITY (& colmes) circus, where I almost literally NEVER go, there was their panel, all in agreement against the verdict, of course: NOVAKula, Laura-convert/but/still/withOUT/Grace-INGRAHAM, and---------SHOCKER--------BOIES, introduced by HANNITY as "the former counsel to Al GORE."

BOIES was featured in the opening/star position. Why? Because he was TOTALLY in sync with the wingnuts. He said that in the gap of three months between when FITZGERALD got appointed and he started his (activity?), FITZGERALD was aware that there was no underlying crime (no disclosure of covert) AND that ARMITAGE was the leaker, but who had turned himself in and didn't fit the crime. That, therefore, his investigation was nothing more than a perjury-trap, and that if the investigation had been shut down there would have been no Scooter-charges.

Wha??? This BOIES, besides having BLOWN it in 2000 is now sunk so low as to be a wingnut shill?

And Tweety. Yeah, it sounds good when he's attacking CHEENEE, but he keeps on with the noble-Shrub-led-astray-by-evil-CHEENEE thingy. The last couple of days, he's been even more out-there in attacking CHEENEE, but, like this (paraphrasing), "This case will NOT be over until we have answers to these questions: DID Cheenee get a report back from the CIA about the Niger trip's findings? Why not since he requested it? But why isn't this guy ACCOUNTABLE? So many things---he shot somebody in the face and DIDN'T TELL THE pRESIDENT for DAYS. And he PUSHED the pRESIDENT into this war under false pretenses. IS he accountable to the pRESIDENT or ISN'T HE???"

Yaas, Tweetybird, your NOBLE PRINCE would be just dandy if that big bad MAN would just leave him alone!!1

Is it a step forward for Tweety (as some here always look for) to be openly attacking CHEENEE? When, oh when, will he take the NEXT step----ALL THE WAY up the flight deck ladder to the TOP??!!1

[liberalnurse]

1. Boies is a complete disappointment.

I am shocked! Gore just really trusted the worst people in 2000.....I did too.

[H2O Man]

4. Boies shows

a lack of knowledge about the Plame scandal, but a willingness to feign insight.

[DeepModem Mom]

14. Libby's wife and Boies both worked as Dem counsels for the Judiciary Committee --

I'm wondering if it's possible they know each other, and he might come on board for an appeal by Libby. He has lots of detractors here, but he's considered by some as the best lawyer of his generation.

I'm really disappointed with him, if he's going on air with Hannity, trashing this verdict.

[liberalnurse]

26. I'm going to sit back and see

what Boies does in the near future. I agree, his display of posturing to Hannity was nauseating. He is much more savvy an articulate....He could hit a home run over Hannities head...and nail the facts as any lawyer worth his/her salt would have done.....I am baffled at why he chose to talk down the high crimes and misdemeanors of this Libby Trial.... :shrug: :banghead:

[emulatorloo]

2. Matthews has been reporting on this story for a long time

So long in fact that Scooter and Cheney were obsessed w Hardball, creating transcripts and calling Tim Russert to complain about it.

[UTUSN]

7. O.K., that was IN THE PAST. & he doesn't DO "reporting".

He has never ceased being a Shrub apologist in the intervals when his Shrub-IDOLATRY too obviously won't wash. Could I nicely get you to read the o.p. again?

[emulatorloo]

8. Schuster works for Matthews/Hardball and has done damn good work

As to Tweety he has consistently featured the case on Hardball and has alwyars said this case was about how admin sold the war to the public (i.e., Saddam had Nukes Mushroom Cloud et cetera)

[UTUSN]

10. But you keep leaving out the part where he keeps covering for Shrub, plus, SHUSTER

I am well aware of the things you have said in both posts. Believe it or not, I have been keeping up.

Yes, I know that SHUSTER has been featured almost daily for months on both the Tweety show and on KO's on this subject. But I was disappointed back in the ROVE-will-be-INDICTED days, when SHUSTER was exposed in my eyes for NOT doing "reporting" but rather using PUNDITS as sources. He was daily saying that his SOURCES were telling him ROVE would be indicted within the next two weeks. When it didn't happen, he disclosed who his SOURCES were: They were lawyers who had had clients testify in front of (this?) grand jury before. Get it? NOT anybody WITH KNOWLEDGE of the ACTUAL workings INSIDE Fitzgerald's office, NOT somebody who had SEEN documents. It was people who were GUESSING what would happen, like the countless guests on yak shows.

IF Rove had turned out to have been indicted, SHUSTER would have come out smelling like a rose, would have been acclaimed as WOODWARD reincarnated.

Sorry, but I prefer to attempt to see with eyes wide open, friend or foe, not as I would like for things to be.

[emulatorloo]

13. Fitz's office didn't leak -- and lawyers aren't "pundits"

Fineman is a pundit, Limbag is a pundit, etc etc.

Shuster's sources had been in the Grand Jury room, and were making educated predictions about what they were seeing. (and personally I think Karl Rove was threatened with indictment, and he gave up something to Fitz in order to avoid it)

At anyrate it does not sound like anything is going to meet your standard for perfection. Which is fine -- now I know where you are coming from and we can agree to disagree.

Tweety aggravates the hell out of me sometimes, nonetheless -- Hardball has had the best Plamegate coverage bar none on television. While other shows seemed to be buying the "no underlying crime, libby is innocent, this is insignificant" nonsense, Hardball/Tweety always said the case was significant because it was about how we were led into war. In a sea of denial by other "news" outlets, that counted as something for me. W/O hardball and firedoglake I would not have been able to follow this case.

Cheers and best regards :toast:

[UTUSN]

16. Persons withOUT first hand KNOWLEDGE who are trading on their EXPERIENCE

(as opposed to WITNESSING events or documents) are pundits. The lawyers who guest on talk shows and GUESS at what's going to happen are ACTING AS PUNDITS. SHUSTER used lawyers withOUT first hand knowledge as so-called SOURCES. They were GUESSING, like PUNDITS.

Back atcha the cheers thing. Gotta go, kay?

[BOSSHOG]

3. Two incredibly easy questions conservative "experts" can't answer

If there was no underlying crime, why the need to lie?

If Plame were an insignificant desk jockey why the need to out her?


The "experts" like hannity and limbaugh and coulter and others like them who have never done anything FOR our country and the fucking morons on free republic just can't contemplate these easily answered questions because they have no use for the constitution or the rule of law.

[H2O Man]

5. Well said. n/t

[goclark]

11. You got that right

Why lie?

Why out Valerie if she is worthless?

[goclark]

6. Tweety is still the same Tweety

He is a Golden Retriever for the Bush Mob.

Their Media Dog.

He thinks if he throws us a bone we can't see that he is a shill.

Today on Imus, Imus was saying that Tweety was so smart for asking the question- "Who did Joe Wilson give the information about yellow cake to and how could he possibly have gotten said information."

That is their new path diverter, it's all about Joe Wilson, not Libby now.

[H2O Man]

9. silly n/t

[UTUSN]

12. Sir, why is what he said "silly"? I am well aware of your extensive

knowledge of the Scooter affair, but I recall from last week that you also praised Tweety for having "covered" (in the reportage sense) this case from way back. In response to your kind words for Tweety then I posted I saw Tweety SAY, "I hope EVERYBODY comes out of this O.K."


But as I'm attempting to document in this thread (again, as in countless others), Tweety CONTINUTES to be a Shrub idolator, the same as he has been since Campaign 2000. I suspect that even if Shrub were to be tossed out of office in DISGRACE, Tweety would STILL find nice words for him, something like, "If only he hadn't trusted CHEENEE, he would have LIVED UP TO HIS PROMISE and be CHURCHILL/TRUMAN."

Really, Tweety has a LONG way to go before he can ever be rehabilitated.

[rebel with a cause]

21. wow, I missed that part.

I just saw/heard Tweety saying that cheney should be kicked out by bush because he was behind all the bad things that had happened. He basically said that bush was innocent in it all and a victum of cheney's doings. Like the op said, still defending bush. And like you said, still a shill.

[City Lights]

15. Tweety is acting like the chimp was out of the loop.

He made some comment yesterday about The Chimpdick being conjoined twins and wondered if Chimpy will ever be able to rid himself of The Dick of Death. This morning on Imus he made some comment about Chimpy and Laura's bedtime conversation revolving around the mess The Dick of Death got them into, as though Chimpy had nothing to do with what has gone on around him. Yeah, the poor Chimp is just another "out of the loop" Bush. :eyes:

[UTUSN]

19. Thank you, most sincerely, for the validation.

I've been having trouble getting others to admit the Tweety Kool Aid drinking for Shrub.

[Norquist Nemesis]

20. Plausible deniability

It's going to take a message from God before Chris Matthews will have the lightbulb go off over his head. Yes, he's targeting "Cheenee". But it's been quite a while since I've heard him talk about the phone call he received from Karl Rove to say, "Wilson's wife is fair game. *click*" Yes, the President's brain. The guy who thinks like him; the guy who he shares such a close connection with that they can finished each other's thoughts.

It's too painful and unbelievable for him to allow himself the analogy of George W. Bush as a mafia boss with Dick 'Cheenee' as the experienced Hit Man. "We have a problem, Dick. I want it taken care of."

[rebel with a cause]

22. Yeah, I heard that part of the interview.

Sickening. :puke:

[blm]

23. It's the same tact DC presscorps took with Reagan - protect him as a dupe of others

who were actually in charge.

[phylla]

17. As to the CHEENEE pronunciation..that is how it was pronounced

until he ran for VP. It was determined that "Chaynee" sounded better and WAH-LAH... the pronunciation was changed.
Chris Matthews just wants to show that he knew him when....

[UTUSN]

18. I have used the CHEENEE spelling in THOUSANDS of posts BEFORE Tweety

I have heard former senator Alan SIMPSON explain that the "correct" pronunciation is CHEENEE, and I started using that. I have noticed Tweety has started (fairly recently) using it. This thread has nothing to reflect on THAT.

[Norquist Nemesis]

24. It sounds like Boies and Toensung read from the same TP memo

It was almost word for word what she was saying to Wolfie yesterday. Poor Wolfie, he tried to emulate having some journalist creds ..."Are you attacking Fitgerald's integrity?" He just couldn't pull it off.

[donsu]

25. maybe from the start Boies was a neo con mole

why is he going on TV now, is the question