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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 11:11 PM Original message |
Five ways to end a debate without actually having to make a logical argument. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. Great post |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. Don't forget the "That's old news" or "Let's not argue about the past-- |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Good addition... |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
4. Why do you hate America? |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
5. "harmful of whining" needs correcting? |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. It is too late to edit, but read the entire sentence and not just those three words. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
7. You forgot the GOP's favorite: 9/11. |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:52 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Yeah, you could add a lot of things to my list... |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 01:19 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I think your list is fine, I just wanted to say 9/11. n/t |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
64. Don't forget... |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
10. The Repub debating manual |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
11. My Favorite" "You Just Don't Get It" |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:05 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Oh yes, I hear that one a lot. |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 06:20 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Well... |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
14. Wonderful Points, All |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
15. Excellent post. 2 and 5 are really getting a workout lately around here. n/t |
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RedShoes (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #15 |
76. My gosh, I was afraid to say it. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. The roving band of bullies that is making this place unbearable |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
16. All five are used regularly here at DU. |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. We do see all five used regularly at DU, and that is why I made this post. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. I agree. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #17 |
41. If you think people "seem" to still be fighting the primary wars, let me assure you... |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
61. I dunno.... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 08:36 AM Response to Reply #61 |
74. That's partly true. |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
19. There's also the research and sources rejection arguement |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Yeah, I have been seeing a number of attacks on the ACLU lately... |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Good points about fake experts who are really PR people. nt |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Yep, there are many attacks on the ALCU and other "far left" institutions lately. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. And there are attacks on those who post about the ACLU et al |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. The new attitude seems to be: Who needs research and analysis |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Link? |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Good one! Right here. |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Wow! Small world. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
42. Actually, that request makes DU a much better place. |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
60. true, until you get a response like "Mother Jones? Everyone knows that site is fringe leftist" |
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TroubleMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
21. NO - not the waaaambulance! |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
27. Thanks... |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
28. You forgot another one |
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pollo poco (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
29. This is my favorite post EVER on DU |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
68. Thank you so much. |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
30. Be careful, you might get locked. n/t |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Well fortunately this has not turned into a flame war yet, and I don't think it will |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. So far, so good, |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
32. I believe that these tactics were actually taught to Murdoch's minions.. |
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Aviation Pro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
33. The use of the shruggy smiley.... |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Don't forget the rolling eyes... |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. I've seen this one a lot, too. |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
56. This is a good answer to the rolling eyes: |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
37. Also, "Thanks for your concern." |
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QueenOfCalifornia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. And, how about.... Your concern |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #46 |
63. yep the concern ones bug the shit out of me as much as the purity bullshit. |
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QueenOfCalifornia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #63 |
80. It is |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
38. #1, 2, and 3 are all variations of the "ad hominum" argument |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
65. Here ya go.... |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
39. k and r. Thanks. We needed that! |
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cbc5g (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
44. Don't forget the "I side with the Constitution and you don't" argument |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
45. The WAAAAHmbulance. Gotta love it. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
47. "Latte drinking elitists", is one of my faves. |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. That one drives me crazy too... |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. It's because, in their tiny, shriveled hearts, they mistakenly believe they will |
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2Design (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
49. some just say - I don't believe in conspiracy theory items - and shut down any |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Yes, and the people who say that usually don't even know what a "conspiracy theory" is. |
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Bluzmann57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
51. When they start to yell |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
52. Well done. |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
53. This should be stickied! |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
54. kr. Spot on. |
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tomreedtoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
55. You forgot #6; blow the opponent's head off. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
57. Kicked and recommended. |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
59. wow, KnR. thanks for this. |
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Esra Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
62. Well done. Well written. nt |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
66. Subset of #4: flogging the stumbling nag that is about to drop to its knees and expire. |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
67. Thanks. Debate is one of the reasons I enjoy the DU. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
69. personal insults, amateur psychologizing, "take a class," "conspiracy theorist," |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
70. We need to be able to use any and all of these |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. No we don't need to use any of these against the Republicans. |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. If you can get people to listen to mere facts |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 07:38 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. But the tactics I described are not effective... |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 08:40 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. That's because you're a reasonable person |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
77. I really hate it when people do those things. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
78. Excellent post. K&R. (n/t) |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
79. Excellent and spot on. nt |
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