I'm going to come out and say it! Anti-drug commercials are a fucking joke...

[devilgrrl]

and insulting to my intelligence. They are so irritating that I contemplate using drugs just to make them stop!

Oh, they bug the shit out me!

[Sequoia]

1. This is your eggs on drugs.

They are all so lame. It's always the happy drugs they want banned. The ADD drugs are for children and we're telling them to stay off drugs but give them these so they won't think, won't question the teacher, just sit in their chairs like bricks in a wall.

[devilgrrl]

5. Have you heard the one airing on AAR's NYC affiliate?

It's your typical "marijuana is evil" number with and idiot stating that people post things like "Marijuana makes your head bigger!!!" on internet chat rooms aimed at teens!!!!.... uhhhh :wtf:

Yes, they are completely lame.

Where are all the anti-Ridalin ads?

[verse18]

10. Just the same as the gov't saying it causes mental illness.

Lies and propaganda. I've been smoking for over 10 years and my head is still the same size and I didn't develop a mental illness.

[Sequoia]

36. My head's so big hats don't fit me.

So pot = big heads = big brains = big intelligence.





Now we know why Spock was so smart too!

[devilgrrl]

41. But but but but but but but that's what "some" are saying on chatboards for teens!!!!!!

:scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared:
:scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared:
:scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared:
:scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared:
:scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared:

[Sequoia]

43. Maybe I'd better clue them in!!!!

Look kids, your brains do not look like fried chicken eggs. More like a glazed walnut you get at Christmas time.

http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000EM2RX2.01._AA280_PIbundle-6,TopRight,0,0_AA280_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_V55723568_.jpg

[Virginia Dare]

45. Partnership for a Drug Free America...

used to be funded in large part by alcohol, tobacco and pharmaceutical companies, and probably still is to some degree.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. You have to be stoned to properly enjoy them.

:thumbsup:

[dkofos]

12. Doesn't help me

[MrMickeysMom]

62. Why do yah think they call it "dope"?

:smoke:

uh.....huh-huh

[MADem]

3. I always thought they caused a number of late night trips to Denny's

or IHOP, myself. It a short jump from this;

to this:

[Xipe Totec]

4. If you have enough brains to be insulted,

you're probably not on drugs. At least not SERIOUSLY on drugs.

I don't think you're their target audience.

:evilgrin:

[devilgrrl]

8. I don't think the target audience listens to AAR

the target audience is the Michael Savage crowd.

[Warren DeMontague]

6. But pot smoking will cause you to get date raped as babies drown in your pool, your testicles fall

off, and you sit on your mom's couch for 30 years playing video games.

Why, Just ask the late Carl Sagan!

[devilgrrl]

13. That's okay, I've discussed the topic extensively with Billionaire Richard Branson...

if there were ever an example of negative effects of marijuana it's Mr. Virgin/Atlantic himself. :sarcasm:

[MuseRider]

7. Always have been

always will be. I really have to wonder if they ever stopped anyone? Certainly they did not stop anyone I know and as said above they are much better watched while stoned.

Mmmmmm IHOP!

[YOY]

9. You should see some of the recruitment commercials on the G4 Channel

G4 is the 'Gamer Channel' aimed at a 18-30 year old demographic. Their commercials are often pretty bad and some of which are from know semi-scams (FREE X-BOX 360!!!)

The best one I've seen so far is a couple of guys playing playstation and the soldier they are controlling turns to them and says "You guys seem pretty into this! How would you like to try the real thing?"

Of course the gamers high five and the spiel about kicking butt in the Army rolls.

Funny, they never mention that you've only got one life and they once you're hit walking over a medpack will not put you back up to 100% health and back into the game.

I've not heard a rushing stampede of video gamers to the recruitment office incidentally.

[progdonkey]

11. I think that's what actually has happened...

I remember reading a report a few months ago about a study that showed that drug use among teens increased as the Partnership for a Drug-Free America upped it's ad plays.

My all-time favorite, though, is the one from the Super Bowl in '03 or '04, where a husband a wife are looking at a pregnancy test and when it turns positive, they turn and the camera pans to their 13-year-old daughter sitting in the bathroom, who starts crying. The voice-over then intones, "Marijuana impairs judgment," or something to that effect. So, apparently it wasn't having sex without a condom that got her pregnant, but smoking some marijuana (and we know that 13-year-olds are perfectly mature and would never show bad judgment were it not for the Demon Marijuana!).

Or another that said that "1 in 3 reckless drivers who were tested for drugs tested positive for marijuana," which is so deceitful. They want the viewers to hear the "1 in 3" and think it's some huge amount, but it's a portion of a portion of a portion of drivers, which is itself a portion of the population at large.

[RaleighNCDUer]

16. 1 in 3 reckless drivers who were tested for drugs...

Now, I've been stopped more than a couple times, and have NEVER been tested for drugs. I suspect they only test for drugs if there is some other reason, like clouds of smoke billowing from the window when it is opened.

it's not "1 in 3 reckless drivers" -- it is "who were tested for drugs". And even in that select group, it wound up with only 33%. Most were probably drunk on their ass.

[progdonkey]

21. exactly my point...

They want the viewer to assume the "1 in 3" refers to drivers at large, (yes, they do say it's one third of reckless drivers, etc., but people only notice so much in a 30-second ad), but first you have to limit yourself to drivers, then of that group to drivers who are driving recklessly enough to be pulled over, then of that group to drivers that were blasted enough that the officer suspects the person is on drugs (which is visibly different from being drunk, and any cop would be able to tell), and only it's only one-third of that group that even tests positive for pot.

Besides, the testing is already biased towards pot, as it's primarily just legal confirmation for the officer to arrest the person. If someone's high enough to be driving recklessly, no one would need to do any sort of tests to be convinced that the person is high, but you need to have it confirmed so it can stand in court. ie. You don't need a breathalyzer to tell that someone is drunk, but you need to know that it's exactly .13 in order to arrest the person.

Frankly, I'd always been surprised that it was only one-third after going through all that!

[killbotfactory]

59. Also traces of pot stay in your system for weeks after use

So who knows if they were even high at the time to begin with?

[MotorCityMan]

17. My all time favorite was, I think, in the '70's

It showed a group of young kids. A pusher walks up and asks if they want to buy some "stuff".

The leader of the group steps up and says, "NO! Why do you think they call it DOPE?" The pusher, shame-faced, slinks away.

The girl leader's self rightous tone (and volume) had us laughing our asses off.

[progdonkey]

23. I remember one that was like that as part of a longer in-class video...

The kids are walking along, and like in your video, the pusher comes up and asks if they want some drugs. The thing is, the pusher looks totally baked, has a big green mohawk(!), and chains all over, so everyone in the class (including the teacher, who was obviously just required to show it) just started laughing. Like, "Shit, I wouldn't buy gum from someone who looked like that, let alone drugs!"

(Hell, maybe it was the same one as yours?)

[devilgrrl]

18. Oh, I distinctly remember an increase in drug use after Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" campaign....

started back in the 80's. She starts this "Just Say No" shit and crack cocaine seemed to come out of nowhere!

What a joke.

[Greyhound]

47. LOL! Back in the 80's I had a conveniently sized mirror with a ceramic straw attached

that had "Just Say No" etched on it.:rofl:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

26. Ahem.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5uDaT35TMqk

[progdonkey]

28. yeah, Michelangelo never smoked pot...

And he didn't have the munchies, he just really liked pizza!

Just like Jeff Spicoli....

[devilgrrl]

31. here's more...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnSTNEt0vJU

[Contrary1]

71. Bwahahahahaha....

"Crack spider's bitch".

:rofl:

[pampango]

66. I wonder if that report was contending that the increase in teen

drug use was connected to the ad campaign or just a coincidence. Although on a different subject it reminds me of the parents who oppose sex education in school, because they think that just talking about it makes it more likely that teens will have sex.

Actually, I have found that the anti-drug commercials were a comical prompt to discuss a wide range of topics with my son (now 18), from drug use, to drinking, to sex, to tattoos, to piercings, etc. We could have a chuckle at the "lame" commercial then have a discussion that was less "serious" in nature than it might have been otherwise. It was a good opportunity to discuss how to be yourself, enjoy life, and not make too many bad mistakes with long lasting consequences.

[Johonny]

14. IDK

I don't dislike the talk to your kids about drugs adds. Has a good message and puts it out there. The ones aimed at parents seem to be a good idea to me.

[devilgrrl]

19. If parents are THAT stupid to believe the falsehoods within those ads, I fear for the children.

eom

[Johonny]

37. pretty much

the adds targeted at parents are "talk to your kids about drugs or someone else will". Seems like a good message to me no matter what side of the drug debate you are on.

[devilgrrl]

42. You don't need commercials to talk to your kids...

if you do, you shouldn't be having any kids.

[Johonny]

54. I'm sorry I forgot

THE WHOLE WORLD IS FILLED WITH PERFECT BEING THUS THERE IS NO NEED TO EVER OFFER GOOD ADVISE AS A PUBLIC SERVICE MESSAGE. I don't mind a little good advice and reassurance over the airwaves. You know a lot of parents have a hard time talking to there kids about sex and drugs, not just crappy parents...

[Greyhound]

48. Anyone that needs a TV or radio spot to spur them to talk to their kids

about the pitfalls and dangers of this life, should seriously consider turning them over to a responsible adult to be raised, before you create a xerox of your hopelessly fucked up self.

[dkofos]

15. As is the war on drugs

[KittyWampus]

20. "You Don't Always Die From Tobacco" is a fucking joke?

Those anti-smoking ads are very good imo.

They don't say "Don't Smoke" but work indirectly.

[devilgrrl]

27. Excuse me, we're the discussing the anti-marijuana ads on AAR...

don't try hijacking this thread with you're own agenda thank you.

I've never heard the anti-tobacco ads that you speak of and at the moment will assume that you're making shit up.

[progdonkey]

32. it's a TV ad, and it's actually a good exception...

I think it's one of those "Truth" ads that usually suck and are totally full of themselves, but the one cryingshame mentioned is actually good.

It's two cowboys, and one is singing through a voicebox, "You don't always die from tobacco--sometimes you just lose a lung. No, you don't always die from tobacco--sometimes they just snip out your tongue. And you won't sing worth a heck, with a big hole in your neck, 'cause you don't always die from tobacco."

Edited to add link: http://youtube.com/watch?v=xRHvZazd4IM

[devilgrrl]

33. Fine, then start a "anti-smoking" thread featuring decent commercials.

The subject at hand in this thread are the bullshit anti-marijuana spots airing on Air America.

[progdonkey]

38. well...

The thread certainly ended up focusing on pot (which I definitely took part in as can be seen in all my other posts to this thread), but your original post only talks about "anti-drug" commercials and makes no mention of either pot or AAR specifically, so cryingshame was not out of line in bringing up an anti-smoking ad.

That being said, I'm a non-smoker and absolutely hate smoking (I'd prefer to walk into a big cloud of pot smoke than cigarette smoke, since the former doesn't feel like it's assaulting my throat--though I'd of course prefer fresh air to either), and those anti-smoking ads generally suck. The cowboy one is good, though. I guess the law of averages would dictate that they'd end up making at least one good one, even if by accident!

[devilgrrl]

40. Is tobacco illegal?

I stated anti-drug okay?

Having said that, I agree with your other points, just so you know that it's nothing personal - cryingshame included.

[progdonkey]

51. no...

I also understood it to be anti-illegal drugs, but it's not really out of line to include anti-tobacco ads under the heading of "anti-drug," so there's little reason to get upset if someone brings up drugs that aren't illegal (for adults, that is; since they're all illegal for teens, they really can all be considered "illegal drugs" when talking about ads targeted at teens).

That's all I was saying. :pals:

[Greyhound]

49. No shit, You hate smoking, I hate religion, she hates money, so fucking what?

go away.

[progdonkey]

53. Jesus Christ...

What the fuck was that all about?

You came into this conversation (if barging in like a jackass can be considered "coming in") much later than everyone else, so you go away if you have a problem.

[Greyhound]

56. Hijacking a thread is like a television commercial. The advertiser thinks it is vital

information that has to be shared, it's just an annoying interruption to everyone else.

I'd hardly call 20 minutes much later than everyone else, of course I have the ability stay on a topic, too.

[KittyWampus]

65. Devilgrrl, re-read your opening post. It doesn't mention AAR OR radio & tobacco is a drug

I am referring to the series of tv commercials that do Performance Art as anti-tobacco ads.

One is called "You Don't Always Die From Tobacco" and it's a powerful.

[devilgrrl]

68. Sorry...

:shrug:

I meant nothing by it.

[RC Quake]

57. Self delete.

Posted before I realized the topic of cigarette smoking was not allowed on this thread.

[jobycom]

22. I agree, they make me want to do drugs, too, and I've never used drugs in my life.

They even have a reverse effect on what I tell my older daughter. I always tell her not to use drugs, but after hearing one of those offensively stupid commercials, I wind up joking about how dumb the anti-drug movement is, and it weakens my message.

The commercials sound like an adult trying to tell a ten year old how to communicate with a five year old. Worse, everyone alive knows people who have smoked pot and not drowned a baby or missed a prom date, so everyone immediately thinks "bullshit" when they hear these things.

They must be sponsored by Columbian drug lords, or else they are covert attempts to get people hooked on drugs to fuel the prison system, and further disenfranchise more Americans.

[Quixote1818]

24. They should just stick to the facts and list what drugs can do to you.

What had the biggest effect on me in high school was a tape recording of a kid blowing his brains out from drug use. They played it to the whole school. Something about that hit home for me.

I don't know why they always have to use theatrics? Why not just list the effects or just have kids talk about the friend they lost? Something serious and somber and to the point.

[Der Blaue Engel]

61. Then they'd have to admit that pot has very few negative effects

We don't want people knowing the truth, now, do we?

[snacker]

25. Reminds me of when my daughter was little...

she used to run around saying "I'm going to be a junkie when I grow up"---a line she heard in an anti-drug ad on TV.

[NorthernSpy]

29. those are your tax dollars on drugs...

:puke:

[Gidney N Cloyd]

30. How many of these commercials are created by ad guys trying to

work off community service sentences?

(I understand that's where a lot of the old ABC Afterschool Specials came from.)

[progdonkey]

34. well, all of those "thetruth.com" ads are paid for by Big Tobacco...

as part of the huge settlement years ago.

Either that, or Philip Morris honestly doesn't want teenagers to become smokers and life-long customers. :eyes:

[Oeditpus Rex]

35. 'This is your brain'

"This is drugs."

"This is your brain on drugs with chorizo."



I forget the name of the comedy troupe, but they were damned funny. :D

[catmandu57]

39. While the pharmacuticles bombard us

with commercials that we need to bug our doctor for every drug they push, the ones people don't really need and they have a fast low talker at the end inform of all the side effects from using a drug that may actually kill you.
Hypocracy, we're so fucking screwed around in this country, sometimes I think the best thing to do would be to knock it down and start over.

[porphyrian]

44. Think for yourself - let a commercial tell you what to do. - n/t

[Greyhound]

46. ...and all paid for with your tax dollars.

:grr:

[Cobalt Violet]

50. K & R

:kick:

[MrMickeysMom]

60. Okay, I'm not stoned, but what's K&R again? n/t

[Cobalt Violet]

63. Kick and Recommend.

:kick:

[Initech]

52. I really hate "Above The Influence", they're as bad as "The Truth.com"

If we really wanted to go after drug peddlers, we should go after the pharmaceutical companies that bombard us with erectile dysfunction and VD ads 24 hours a day.

[spanone]

55. The entire 'war on drugs' is a fucking joke.

[Beelzebud]

58. You'd love Bill Hicks. :)

TV - "This is your brain on drugs"

BillHicks - "Thats not a brain, man. I'm tripping on acid right now, and I can tell you, that is a fucking egg! You're drunk aren't you? How dare you have a drunk to tell me not to do drugs!"

[lectrobyte]

67. Bill Hicks rocked. Ironically, many of his best rants against Bush I

and Oil War I are perfectly timeless 15 years later.

[Initech]

70. Bill Hicks rules!

"You're at a ball game or a concert and someone is really violent and obnoxious. Are they drunk or are they smoking pot?

Audience: DRUNK!!!!

The only and only correct answer! I have never seen people on pot get in a fight because it's fucking impossible! HEY BUDDY... HEY WHAT..."

[Duer 157099]

64. Those ads seem designed to increase drug use

I know, it sounds either counter-intuitive or sarcastic, but I believe that kids who otherwise never even *thought* about drugs, upon seeing those ads, now start to wonder...

Kids who are using drugs, would NEVER be dissuaded by those commercials.

So what really is their point then?

It's to increase drug awareness in kids, which it does -- only, it piques their curiosity.

Everything the *establishment* does needs to be viewed through Orwellian glasses.

[ProfessorGAC]

69. You And 100 Million Other Americans

They are wholly ineffective. The Cato Institute (no, i'm not a fan), did a study back in the late 90's that demonstrated that both the Partnership and DARE were completely ineffectual. That for all the effort and money, they were accomplishing NADA! Of course, there were howls of protest saying "No, it's working." Cato simply said, "But the data says you're wrong." It became a staring contest and nothing changed.
The Professor