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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:37 PM
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McCain forgets that Czechoslovakia isn’t a country… again.»
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/14/mccain-forgets-that-czechoslovakia-isnt-a-country-again/


McCain forgets that Czechoslovakia isn’t a country… again.»

During a press availability today, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said that he’s been concerned by “a couple of steps that the Russian government took in the last several days,” including “reducing the energy supplies to Czechoslovakia.” But, as TPM’s Greg Sargent points out, Czechoslovakia hasn’t existed in 15 years. This isn’t the first time McCain has made this mistake. At a debate in Oct. 2007, McCain said that America needs to “have a missile defense system in place in Czechoslovakia and Poland.”

Update: Sargent notes that McCain also made the Czechoslovakia mix up about three months ago on Don Imus's radio show.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:38 PM
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1. I'll give him a pass on that one
It can be just verbal force of habit. I find myself doing the same thing with countries whose names have changed, etc.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:39 PM
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3. This is the third time he's made that mistake; when does one learn? nt
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:41 PM
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7. Except you're not running for President of the United States
It's sort of important for the President to remember what fucking country he's referring to.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:39 PM
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2. I do the same thing pretty regularly
Old verbal habits are hard to change.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:45 PM
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13. and he's very old
and therefore, he will never be able to learn new things. GO OBAMA!!!!!
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:39 PM
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4. Well, his mentor the Chimp called Africa a country
Geography and history apparently aren't Republican strong suits.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:48 PM
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26. And Reagan was surprised to find
that there were "lots of countries" in South America :crazy:
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:40 PM
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5. The "explore, exploit" mumbling about offshore oil was worse
He sounded downright LAMEASS when he made those comments.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:40 PM
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6. No pass from me
If the trump card of your candidacy is your expertise in foreign policy, it's pretty important to have command of facts less than 15 years old. McThuselah will get a pass from his pals in the major media, though, because he makes such great barbecue.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:45 PM
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14. McThuselah...
:rofl:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:47 PM
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16. Made it up while I was composing the post
It just seemed . . . right.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:48 PM
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17. It's perfect! nt
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 05:20 PM
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24. I was about to give him a pass, myself
for the same reasons others have given. But goddammit! You're absolutely right. If you're gonna be a leader, then learn the flipping basics.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:41 PM
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8. I can forgive him
I remember East Germany.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:41 PM
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9. If he knew how to use the internets...
How on earth can someone so obviously out of touch with EVERYTHING and more than likely suffering from the early stages of dementia lead this country?

And then I see poll #s and hear the pundits say the race is close.....



:wtf:
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:41 PM
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10. Are the Czechs, "Sunnis" and the Slovaks, "Shias"? ;-}
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:43 PM
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11. I've made that mistake, too...
...but I'm not applying for the job of President Of Blowing Up Other Countries.

If I were, then people should definitely be concerned.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:43 PM
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12. I've made that mistake, too...
...but I'm not applying for the job of President Of Blowing Up Other Countries.

If I were, then people should definitely be concerned.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:47 PM
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15. Haven't made that mistake ever.
Then again I'm kind of a slavophile.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 03:06 PM
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18. Wiki updated:
----In 2008, Republican Presidential candidate Senator John McCain (Arizona) stated to reporters, “I was concerned about a couple of steps that the Russian government took in the last several days. One was reducing the energy supplies to Czechoslovakia. Apparently that is in reaction to the Czech's agreement with us concerning missile defense, and again some of the Russian now announcement they are now retargeting new targets, something they abandoned at the end of the Cold War, is also a concern.” <4> Apparently Senator McCain did not get them memo that the "country" of Czechoslovakia dissolved in 1992.---

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czechoslovakia#After_1989
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 03:57 PM
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19. Just refer to him as an Indochina veteran
And see how quickly he will correct you.
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 04:00 PM
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20. Umm...
... Czechoslovakia's not a country anymore???

:rofl: (just messin')
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 04:08 PM
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21. Fascists have a hard time saying the word "Republic"
even when they call themselves "Republicans".

Fox News calls it Czechoslovakia all the time.

Like Richard Clark said, they are preserved in amber.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 04:10 PM
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22. Psst Don't tell him - he can keep doing it through the debates!
The strange thing is that MCCain was in the Senate when it happened and has likely met leaders fro both successor nations. Isn't the operant word that he's "confused"?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 04:26 PM
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23. Ha! You're being too kind! nt
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:04 PM
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25. I was research assistant for a professor of E. European history, once.
He needed stuff translated for a book he was writing. He was tenured. The book had already been accepted, on the strength of his rep as an expert in his field and how other experts judged prospectus for the book, and the chapters he'd written to get it accepted.

He insisted that I track down stuff from the late '60s and translate it from the original "Czechoslovak". Granted, for a brief stint in the 1920s there was the attempt to say that Czech and Slovak were two extreme dialects of one language, but few people really bought the idea. And the professor would have been an embryo at the time.

Still, I knew Czech well enough that Slovak wasn't much of a stretch, so I dutifully translated documents from "Czechoslovak".

I call the Czech part Cesko (pronounced 'Chesh-koe), and the Slovak part, well, Slovakia.

(Did you hear the old Moravian joke? "Where's Moravia in Czecho-slovakia?" "It's the -". "Czech", after all, also refers specifically to just Bohemia, not to the other two parts of the country.)
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:51 PM
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27. "We are.....two wild and craazee guys!"

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:03 PM
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28. Hey, at least he didn't call it the Austro-Hungarian Empire
He was planning an Autogyro tour of the country when he became president.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:04 PM
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29. If he mentions those pesky Hapsburgs I'm outta here.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:10 PM
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30. McCain is stuck in a time warp. What's next? He mentions Atlantis as the next area of deployment?
n/t
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