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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:04 PM
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Is CNAS the Democratic PNAC?
Is CNAS the Democratic PNAC?
Submitted by Bob Fertik on July 14, 2008 - 10:16am.



A week ago, Obama got into big trouble when he said he would "refine" his 16-month Iraq withdrawal policy based on "more information" from "commanders on the ground." Was that a sign he was going to pull a "FISA flip-flop" on Iraq? Obama insisted he wasn't, and in today's NY Times he reiterates his 16-month withdrawal plan.

Unlike Senator John McCain, I opposed the war in Iraq before it began, and would end it as president.

But there appears to be a powerful force pushing Obama to not end the Iraq war - the Center for a New American Security, or CNAS for short.

Is CNAS the Democratic PNAC? As we all know, PNAC - the Project for a New American Century - was the campaign of neocons like Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle that persuaded Bush to invade Iraq. Is CNAS trying to keep us there over the objections of 70% of Americans and 70% of Iraqis?

Today the Pentagon Post's Jackson Diehl exposed CNAS's nefarious work:

Still, there's a better way for Obama to solve his Iraq problem -- one that is honest about the state and stakes of the war but still sharply differentiates him from McCain. What's more, it's a solution dreamed up by Democrats who are among the candidate's advisers on defense. As outlined by Michelle Flournoy, Colin Kahl and Shawn Brimley of the Center for a New American Security, the strategy would focus on the biggest difference between the presidential candidates -- which is not about troop withdrawals but about the role the United States should play in Iraq five or 10 years from now.

So according to CNAS there's little difference between Obama and McCain on troop withdrawals from Iraq?


more...

http://www.democrats.com/is-cnas-the-democratic-pnac
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:11 PM
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1. The "Military-Industirial Complex" is not going to just go away.
It will have to be destroyed, bit by bit, fear by fear, think-tank by think-tank, red-herring by red-herring.
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Kip Humphrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:29 PM
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2. CNAS Board of Directors & Board of Advisors:
Board of Directors


The Honorable Dr. William J. Perry, Chairman of the Board
Professor and Senior Fellow, Hoover Institution on War, Revolution, and Peace
Stanford University

The Honorable Dr. Madeleine K. Albright
Principal, The Albright Group LLC

The Honorable Richard L. Armitage
President, Armitage International

Norman R. Augustine
Former Chairman, Executive Committee, Lockheed Martin Corporation

Admiral Dennis C. Blair, USN (Ret.)
Former Commander-in-Chief, U.S. Pacific Command

The Honorable Dr. Richard J. Danzig
Senior Advisor, Center for Strategic and International Studies

The Honorable William J. Lynn
Senior Vice President, Government Operations & Strategy, Raytheon Company

The Honorable Dr. Leo S. Mackay, Jr.
Vice President, Corporate Business Development, Lockheed Martin Corporation

LtGen Greg S. Newbold, USMC (Ret.)
Managing Director, Torch Hill Capital

John D. Podesta
President and CEO, Center for American Progress

The Honorable Dr. Mitchell Reiss
Vice Provost for International Affairs, College of William & Mary





Board of Advisors


Rand Beers
National Security Network

Steve Biegun
Vice President for International Governmental Affairs, Ford Motor Company

Dr. Hans Binnendijk
Former Senior Director for Defense Policy, U.S. National Security Council

Dr. Ashton Carter
Ford Foundation Professor of Science and International Affairs, Harvard University

Dr. Peter Feaver
Alexander F. Hehmeyer Professor of Political Science and Public Policy, Duke University

Dr. Michael Green
Senior Advisor and Japan Chair, Center for Strategic and International Studies

LtGen Wallace Gregson, USMC, Jr., (Ret.)
WCG & Associates International, LLC

Andrew Hoehn
Vice President and Director, Project Air Force, RAND Corporation

Dr. Michael O'Hanlon
Senior Fellow, The Brookings Institution

Dr. Susan Rice
Senior Fellow, Foreign Policy and Governance Studies, The Brookings Institution

Randy Schriver
Partner, Armitage International LLC

Sarah Sewall
Director of the Carr Center for Human Rights Policy, Harvard University

Ambassador Wendy Sherman
Principal, The Albright Group LLC

Gayle Smith
Senior Fellow, Center for American Progress

James Steinberg
Dean, LBJ School of Public Affairs, University of Texas at Austin

Jim Thomas
Vice President, Applied Minds, Inc.

Dr. Edward (Ted) Warner III
Principal, Booz Allen Hamilton
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:43 PM
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6. Thanks for the list.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:31 PM
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3. Brilliance and the useful die lonely deaths
While stupid live on with fanfare and parades -- Gim June-gyeong 1893

Hence if they have the idiotic PNAC, we must have the equally idiotic CNAS

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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:56 PM
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4. I guess this explains two things...
...1. where the PNAC went.

and

2. how the GOP are going to "rebrand" themselves.

Damn. I thought we'd lost them for good.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:21 PM
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5. Exchanging Neo-cons with Neo-libs. Like switching from arsenic for strychnine.
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 07:22 PM by Tierra_y_Libertad
The difference being that the neo-libs will feel sorrier and apologize more eloquently for the mass-murder inflicted when we invade another country to "protect our vital national interests".
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:47 PM
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7. They sure do like that "New American Century" frame. nt
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 10:47 PM by glitch
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 09:31 AM
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8. the "New American Century" ain't going so well. I miss the old century.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 09:53 AM
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9. What I am really looking forward to is a major step in human evolution.
But relatively speaking, I miss the old century too.
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