“Why on earth is the * admin trying to discourage ...contraception to people who need it?"

[babylonsister]

Abortion Proposal Sets Condition on Aid

By ROBERT PEAR
Published: July 15, 2008


WASHINGTON — The Bush administration wants to require all recipients of aid under federal health programs to certify that they will not refuse to hire nurses and other providers who object to abortion and even certain types of birth control.

Under the draft of a proposed rule, hospitals, clinics, researchers and medical schools would have to sign “written certifications” as a prerequisite to getting money under any program run by the Department of Health and Human Services.

Such certification would also be required of state and local governments, forbidden to discriminate, in areas like grant-making, against hospitals and other institutions that have policies against providing abortion.

The proposal, which circulated in the department on Monday, says the new requirement is needed to ensure that federal money does not “support morally coercive or discriminatory practices or policies in violation of federal law.” The administration said Congress had passed a number of laws to ensure that doctors, hospitals and health plans would not be forced to perform abortions.

In the proposal, obtained by The New York Times, the administration says it could cut off federal aid to individuals or entities that discriminate against people who object to abortion on the basis of “religious beliefs or moral convictions.”

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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/15/washington/15rule.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&ref=us&adxnnlx=1216127033-1CUowruCjyCwlBC/ZXexDA

[Solly Mack]

1. K&R

[beam me up scottie]

2. Is it time to worry yet? Are we allowed to get "emotional" about this?

Just what we need, The God Squad terrorizing women from inside the health care system.

They will have access to all of our records.

Think about it.

[formercia]

3. No more abortion counseling

We need more babies for the next Crusade. If this country spends hard-earned tax dollars on those worthless scum, we expect to be able to coerce them into joining in our next misadventure, after all, that's the way it has been, right?

Keep them poor with no way out except the military or a life of crime. We need bodies in the prison-industrial complex too.


Duck and cover...

[ginnyinWI]

4. The irony is that the Republican party used to represent

the party that wanted to get government out of people's personal lives. That's why many, many former Republicans have jumped off the party bandwagon.

[Prophet 451]

5. They're not anti-abortion, they're anti-sex

Sex is a terrible evil that should only be inflicted on your loving spouse and if you have sex any other time, you should be punished (unless you're a closeted Rethuglican).

Personally, I think this sets an incredibly dangerous precedent and sex is an enjoyable way to spend a lazy afternoon.

[wryter2000]

7. Ding, ding, ding

We have a winner.

Why in hell are some anti-abortion types willing to give an exemption for rape and incest? Because the woman didn't enjoy it. As long as you didn't enjoy it, you're free to choose the way to deal with the pregnancy.

That's not true of all anti-abortion people. Some have a more principled stand, feeling the fetus (or embryo) actually is a human being. But the majority just want to punish the woman for having sex.

[burythehatchet]

6. American Taliban. We have two choices,

stay, fight and die
or
leave

[beam me up scottie]

8. kick/nt

[baldguy]

9. "Every sperm is sac-red, every sperm is great!"

"If ever a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate!"

[paparush]

10. More slaves?

[Iris]

13. yep. Cannon fodder, too.

[DCKit]

11. Loyalty Oaths. SO(Republic)P, and sooooo predictable.

Edit to add:

And once they have signed loyalty oaths, they'll change the rules again and find a way to force the hiring of family planning opponents.

It's the same shit they've been pulling on Congress since 2001 - they're given an inch and take a mile.

[NC_Nurse]

12. Because they are sick fuckers.

End of story.

[KatyaR]

14. Because they want to grind the lower classes into the ground.

And if you don't believe there are "lower classes" in this country, I feel sorry for you.

[Yavin4]

15. Here's The Anwer To Your Question

The Republican party does absolutely NOTHING for the middle and working class Americans in this country. Practically ALL of their agenda is designed to help people with money and power.

So, as a way to throw their right wing constituents a bone and make them feel like they do indeed have power (when they really have none), they make a big deal about ANY issue involving sex. The Christian RW is not really Christian. What they really are is sexually repressed, and they are obsessed with the sex lives of other people. So, they see any law or govt program that "punishes" people for having sex as a win.

In sum, the Republican elite have made the following deal with the RW fundies: The elites get tax breaks, deregulation, no bid govt contracts, govt bailouts, outsourcing, govt deficits, no national healthcare, and no money for education. In return, the fundies get to impose their sexual morality on the world. What a deal!

[Arrowhead2k1]

16. They need more tax payers to help shrink the deficit. nt

[Firespirit]

17. Contraception is not even always about sex

I'm not heterosexual, and between the pill and my pepper spray I have pretty much zero risk of pregnancy. I'm on the pill to treat polycystic ovary syndrome.




Oh wait, in the eyes of the RW I forfeited my rights with the first three words. :eyes:

[mod mom]

18. they're looking to build a military for the future.

[Omaha Steve]

19. K&R!

From a voice for choice.

[noiretextatique]

20. fucking insane

:grr:

[McCamy Taylor]

21. Tossing a bone to the Christian Coaltion before the election.