Listening to Kucinich can be depressing for me

[G_j]

For that matter, have you heard Cynthia McKinney?

Both, lonely pioneers for Bush's impeachment. Both lonely warriors who DARE to challenge the Military Industrial Complex and it's criminal budget, the phony "war on terror" etc....

Hearing politicians passionate and courageous about telling the unadulterated truth is exiting and inspirational, except that

it is very depressing that I will not be voting for someone who really represents the progressive values I have held my whole life.

I will be watching Dennis today and cheering!

[defendandprotect]

1. Understand . . . feel the same way . . . but at least these people are telling TRUTH . ..

we need to hear -- and they are the occasional reminder of what isn't happening in

government and how much is wrong!

[G_j]

4. well, I am very exited that Kucinich is not flinching

and presenting articles of Impeachment!
:applause:

:applause:

[bdamomma]

7. no flinching at all, he knows what he is dealing with.

I would love to get into a conversation with him about his colleagues.

[eleny]

2. Giving him a little financial support for his seat in Congress would make him feel good

I'll bet you already do that. But I thought to mention it anyway.

[G_j]

5. absolutely

thank you, that is crucial

[eleny]

6. K&R for the good guys

[defendandprotect]

17. Just did it a week or so ago . . .

[Freddie Stubbs]

3. McKinney bravely introduced impeachment articles AFTER she had lost her election, and waited until

the LAST day that Congress was in session.

Is incompetence a 'progressive value?'

[G_j]

9. sorry!

not falling for that

not gonna waste my time

:rofl:

[Prophet 451]

8. I understand

But it's also somewhat inspiring that Dennis is willing to repeatedly put himself out there, quite possibly destroying his career, because it's the right thing to do.

[Breeze54]

10. I hear you... is he on C-Span or something?

*sigh* Two lonely voices in the wilderness. :(

I exited too. :P

:kick: & Recommended

[LWolf]

11. It's depressing on the surface.

There's an underlying satisfaction, though, in knowing that there will always be some who will stand on principle, who will live their lives according to truth and justice.

It's probably fair to say that DK has spoiled me for politics as usual, and I think that's a good thing.

[G_j]

14. well said!

me too, Once you have seen the real thing, it is hard to settle for political expediency and BS.

The real crux of the matter is, that this is a life and death emergency!
We don't have time left for games and denial. We do not have that luxury.
We have got to deal with the elephants in the room.

[LWolf]

20. The best I can do at this point

is to make sure that the bizarre orwellian twists of logic used to brush those elephants aside don't work.

To, in my own sphere, speak out. Just as DK is doing in his.

[Vidar]

12. I have to agree with you, and expressed it very well.

[jobycom]

13. He's exciting, inspirational, and ineffective.

He wants his words and passion to change events.

Clinton was not only a fierce critic of Bush's handling of the war (despite being smeared otherwise) from the beginning, she also fought to get restrictions placed on Bush's no-bid contracts and sweetheart deals in Iraq. That did more to curb profiteering than anything Kucinich's words and fiery rhetoric ever did.

LBJ always told the story about his first floor speech. He attacked his opponent with rhetoric so fiery it scorched the varnish from the desks in the Capitol Building. When it was over he strode proudly up to the Speaker, expecting a pat on the back, but the Speaker looked disappointed. "I told him what's what," LBJ said (or something like that, I'm too lazy to look up his exact quotes). The Speaker shook his head and said, "Boy, that might make you feel better, but all you did was get him madder, and now it will be harder to get what we want from him."

LBJ changed strategies after that, and it carried him to the White House, where he was in position to enact his Great Society legislation and make Civil Rights and Fair Housing the law of the land. He didn't get there by stroking the egos of his closest admirers, though. He did it by doing the hard work that politics takes.

I love Dennis's heart and soul, I love his view of the world. I was the first one on DU with a "Kucinich for President" sig line, long before he talked about running. But there are over a hundred liberals in Congress every bit as pure as Kucinich, only their reputations aren't as clean because they work the compromises needed to get things accomplished, and people only see the compromise and not the progress. True progressives move things forward, they don't just talk about them.

There's too much of the other side, too, of course. Too many compromises that don't move us forward, too much cowardice over losing their jobs and not enough concern for what they really wanted to get the jobs for. That's a sin Dennis doesn't commit often, at least. I've always respected that about him. I just see him as a slacker.

[G_j]

15. Bush's handling of the war

"handling" is the operative word isn't it?

Never mind that it was a criminal enterprise from the beginning.
Somewhat like criticizing someone for botching a murder or a bank robbery.

[jobycom]

16. I didn't see anyone actually stop it, no matter how loudly they spoke.

There are two approaches to life. You can angrily deny what's happening around you because you didn't approve in the first place, or you can do what you can to make things better given actual circumstances. Like me. I don't like our nominee. If I took Kucinich's approach, I'd run around trying to convince people I was right all along, and I'd refuse to vote for the nominee. Instead, I recognize that to move forward from this point we need to get him in office, because our options are him or McCain.

Once the war started, the options were to let Bush run it how he wanted because we were too pure to dirty our hands, or to try to do as much as we could to minimize the horrors that were happening.

[G_j]

19. Obama will have my vote

light years better than McCain, but I am afraid too little, too late.
This is an emergency, a five alarm fire.
McCain would fight the fire by pouring a bucket of gasoline on it. Obama brings a bucket of water.

[Greyhound]

18. Understand exactly, sign the petition everybody.

Click the pic and lend your approval to this worthy cause.
:kick: & R

[windoe]

21. Yes, I am deeply moved by these people,

and in awe that there are not more of them that are willing to fight for America! Why is that? Has the smell (or the spell) of money changed them so completely that they forgot why they are there?
How can the spell be broken? I think every day they go to work in DC, it looks like every other day, and until they have a very different day and see thousands of people outside their office, hear their voices, and I think this day is inevitable, their bubble will not burst.