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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:12 PM
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Nadler: In a ‘just system,’ Bush ‘would be impeached.’
Nadler: In a ‘just system,’ Bush ‘would be impeached.’»

Today, on C-SPAN’s Washington Journal, Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), who has held several hearings on the Bush administration’s torture program, said that President Bush has committed “impeachable offenses”:

NADLER: If we had a just system and it weren’t overly political, the president would be impeached. I think he has committed impeachable offenses.

Watch it:http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/15/nadler-in-a-just-system-bush-would-be-impeached/
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:15 PM
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1. Methinks Ralph is being too nice.
This bastard would be in fucking prison along with Cheney, Rove, Rice and all the other blood-soaked war criminals.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:23 PM
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6. Not Ralph, Jerrold (D-NY)
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:03 PM
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12. oops, ok I got it n/t
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 03:04 PM by navarth
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:17 PM
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2. Now let's don't get rash and go too far out on the thinking limb
:D
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:20 PM
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3. then Mr. Nadler grow a spine, and do something.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:20 PM
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15. Yep
My rep. is selling a pig in a poke. He and his staff won't even discuss the subject with constituents anymore. A system becomes just when lawmakers make it so.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:20 PM
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4. I think he really means that in a system that isn't rife with
corruption he would be impeached and brought to justice. We do have a just system. It's just been corrupted beyond what I would have believed even a few years back. It seems we are going to have to start from the bottom up in rooting out all the weeds of corruption.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:21 PM
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5. Gosh, you'd think Nadler took an oath to protect the Constitution, or something...
I guess the ones not in favor of impeachment didn't take that oath...

:eyes:
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:37 PM
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7. Jerry, since you are elected to uphold the Constitution, what do you think
you should do to make it a "just system?" Maybe, seek justice? Perhaps that's what Chickenshit Conyers should do, too. You guys have the power. You're just afraid to use it. As you say, the system is overtly political. But, you all continue to put politics ahead of justice. Until you all have the courage of your convictions to stand together and do something about it, nothing will change---even if a Democrat is in the White House.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:39 PM
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8. Then he should work to make it just-PERIOD!
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:10 PM
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13. That's exactly right. Anything less is an abdication of their
responsibility.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:41 PM
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9. In a just system that would be just the beginning...
An exhaustive trial should follow at the International Criminal Court or at a special War Crimes Tribunal. A trial for war crimes under international auspices would be required for the barest minimal standards of justice to be satisfied. Until that time, what you have and what we all participate in one way or another is a Reign of State Terrorism and Mass Murder.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:55 PM
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10. In a just system Bush would never have been handed the presidency
He and Cheney would have been in jail a long time ago for crimes they committed in the business sector.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:59 PM
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11. Well, gee-whiz-a-roony ding-dong...
WHO RUNS THE FUCKING SYSTEM CONGRESSMAN?

WE SURE AS FUCK CAN'T DO A CRAP ABOUT IT.

:banghead:
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:11 PM
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14. Thank you, Jerrold Nadler !!
Fascinating to see a member of congress admit that. How powerless we all are.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:32 PM
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16. I agree. This system is so corrupt I don't know what will happen to this country.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:18 PM
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17. The Democratic Party has denuded itself of values and policy...
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 04:20 PM by SteveM
It has been going on for over 30 years, now. Ever since the McGovern debacle, the Democratic Party has essentially jettisoned its beliefs and the policies which from derive therefrom. It has felt the lash of the GOP for far too long to have any will to fight back. This is a character and cultural problem which eschews confrontation, fights; ideas and policies, leadership, sacrifice, even winning. The argot of jargon-jive should say all: "Let us have a meeting of the stakeholders so we can build consensus and develop a win-win solution so that we might move forward." The party has become a denatured, sterilized, and odorless technocracy which cannot define itself and luxuriates in victimization politics, a condition which is enthusiastically taken advantage of by the GOP. It's crude, but the Democratic Party is essentially a drunken woman sprawled on a pool table with a bunch of bully-boys standing around. Watch think dem boys gonna do? They're doing it now and they will continue to do it.

Be careful defining yourself as a Green Party voter; this is a Democratic site.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:49 PM
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18. I heard him
this morning. It was refreshing but he said leadership doesn't support it.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:49 PM
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19. well, uh, DUH
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 04:55 PM by Solly Mack
We're waitng...Oh, right...it's not a just system...that excuses it all now don't it?

Sheesh

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