How did Tony Snow die broke?

[kskiska]

There's a trust established soliciting money for his family.

Surely he earned a large salary working for Faux News and from his radio show all those years. Of course he had cancer, but he must have had a good health insurance policy. He wasn't at the White House all that long. Where did all his money go?

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(snip)

Randy Evans, the grantor of the Trust, stated that, "Serving our country at times means sacrifice. Tony did just that. At a time when he was at the pinnacle of his career at FOX News, he was asked to serve his country and he gave up the financial rewards his future held. Having served his country well, Tony left the White House to earn money to help secure his children's future. Unfortunately, fighting cancer did not give him much time to do that, and so, the purpose of this Trust is to help achieve Tony's goal of securing his children's future including their college educations."

more…
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/statement-regard-tony-snow-family/story.aspx?guid=%7B5DDD3CED-75BE-4A03-A454-5E0940214A81%7D&dist=hppr

[Cleita]

1. It sounds like he was one of those working class types who became a

Republican just in case he ever became rich. Poor fool!

[NightWatcher]

2. their lust of money doesnt die when they do?

we all want to help our children. Maybe he shouldnt have sold his soul to the devils (faux and bush).

[Avalux]

3. You've got to be kidding me.

He must have lived paycheck to paycheck no matter how big the paycheck was; I'm not sure what "he was asked to serve his country and he gave up the financial rewards his future held" means. Maybe WH Spokespeople only make 20K a year.

[madaboutharry]

4. I don't get it.

He did not work in government service all that long. It is confusing.

[TooBigaTent]

5. The POS lived way above his means in the belief that the gravy train would continue forever.

repukes never consider that THEY could suffer any harm.

So, IF it is true and not just a beg-a-thon, he acted like a true republicon. Spend now and leave the debt to someone else.

After all, it is hard to get by on a mere million or more per year.

[tabasco]

87. Probably correct.

There is no end to the greed and wastefulness of these thieving, lying assholes.

[CatWoman]

6. he didn't "serve his country"

his lying overlords, perhaps -- but not his country.

:hi: K

:)

[kskiska]

11. You'd think he'd have provided for his kids' education early on.

:hi: Cat!

Just makes you wonder.

[ingac70]

19. Paying to hobknob with the corporate elite was more important, I'm sure. n/t

[elehhhhna]

78. TRUEFACT! Beat me to it.

[no_hypocrisy]

7. Probably enormous medical bills and insufficient medical insurance.

[XemaSab]

29. How the hell are White House employees not FULLY covered?

:shrug:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

48. Possible "experimental" treatments not covered?

:shrug:

[Matariki]

8. They're taking donations for his kid's TRUST FUNDS?

give me a break.

[mitchum]

67. Yes, that's exactly what they are doing

unmitigated gall and republicanism appear to go hand in hand

[meegbear]

9. This is where the nicities end ...

No. No. No. Thousands of people die broke in this country and they don't get people to beg for money.

Some people need money just to pay their family debts. Pass the cup at the Fox News desk.

[newmajority]

25. No shit. Let Murdoch support Tony's kids.

God knows he can afford it. And if he can't, let him sell off a network or two. He'll find the cash.

[latebloomer]

10. with many people

what they make is what they spend.

The lifestyle ratchets up as their salaries do, and the must-haves include mansions, fancy cars, designer clothes, pricey vacations and all the rest of it.

No thought given to the future.

[proud2BlibKansan]

12. He didn't die broke

This is a solicitation for a trust fund for his kids.

I say let Bush and Cheney pay for their college education. They owe Tony more than anyone else would owe him.

[KoKo]

95. He signed a contract with CNN just a couple months before his death..

He never showed up for work....because he apparently got much worse. It was very odd because no one heard anything about him after he resigned his WH Press Spokesman Position last year and everyone new he was gravely ill, and then there was an announcement he would be joining CNN a few months ago. Blitzer was announcing a new show and then he never showed up to do the show. Someone must have been trying to help him out at CNN and signed a contract with him...even though he must have been very near the end.

Strange.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

13. Maybe he should have kept it in "locked box". n/y

[devilgrrl]

14. Served our country.... What a bunch of BOLLOCKS!

:eyes:

[fishwax]

68. no kidding

:wtf:

[panader0]

15. Some repub is setting this up to make money.

[jaysunb]

16. Calling: Chevron, Exxon, Mobile, Aramco...et al

:evilfrown:

[ingac70]

17. He didn't have life insurance?

One of the "personal responsibility" Repuke cheerleaders who didn't follow his own advice.

[bluestateguy]

18. It sounds like he died merely "upper-middle class", rather than rich

I doubt very much that he died due to lack of access to health care, which his Administration fought so hard to deprive ordinary Americans of.

[gatorboy]

20. He made $168,000 at the WH. Talking about is financial sacrifice is an insult to the true poor.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/31/white.house.snow/index.html


According to The Washington Post, Snow makes $168,000 as the White House spokesman.

His family took out a loan when he started the job, "and that loan is now gone."

"This job has really been a dream for me, a blast. I've had an enormous amount of fun and satisfaction," Snow said.

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These folks think $168,000 is slumming it. Who's the true elitists here?

[rurallib]

24. I remember when he took the job they said it was a considerable

cut in pay. Maybe he should have saved a little money from his heady days as a radio mouthpiece. No sympathy here. Let his kids enjoy the world their daddy help make.

[gatorboy]

28. Remember Tom Ridge? Stepped down because he was too poor at $175,700 a year

to put his kids through college.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5556588


WASHINGTON - Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge is considering stepping down after the November election, telling colleagues he is worn out from the massive reorganization of government and needs to earn money in the private sector to put his teenage children through college, officials said.

<snip>

Ridge, 58, has explained to colleagues that he needs to earn money to comfortably put his two children, Tommy Jr. and Lesley, through college, officials said. Both are now teenagers. Ridge earns $175,700 a year as a Cabinet secretary.

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These people have no idea what it's like just to try and get by these days.

[LiberalFighter]

56. House members of Congress receive $169,300

Took out a loan when he became Press Secretary? What a bunch of bozos!

[galledgoblin]

92. jawdrop

what gall, to say he couldn't provide for his family.

between the insurance coverage, that salary, and the money and coverage he had from his work at FOX, he should have had more than enough!

shameless.

[rurallib]

21. Well, I have been making calls for a health care group

and I have been told probably fifty times "I got a job and my own health care. Why should I pay for someone else. Let them take care of themselves like I did!" Looks to me like Tony had more than ample opportunity to take care of his children. I worked hard to send my kids through college on probably one-tenth of what Snow made. Looks like his priorities were skewed.
Perhaps the best future his kids could attain would be to work in the world their old man helped create.

[Catherine Vincent]

22. I am sure they were left enough money to live on comfortably. But apparently they need more?

It must be nice to get all your rich friends to set up a trust fund for your kids after you're gone.

[kskiska]

32. Ldotters are rushing for their pocketbooks

to send the cash.

http://lucianne.com/threads2.asp?artnum=411899

[CatWoman]

36. the morans

:)

[Catherine Vincent]

52. Look! There's a pic of Lucianne on that page....

:evilgrin:

[KamaAina]

70. Ldotters are still around?

Goodness. I hadn't thought of them in literally years!

[kskiska]

81. There are a handful left

just as bitter and hateful as ever. I think they're all retirees with nothing better to do, judging from the responses when some old-time celebrity dies.

[Ilsa]

86. Trying to keep up with the Joneses:

"I'd imagine they line up the checks and photocopy them to keep a record. Be worth the donation just to know my name is in their files, even if nobody else knew about it." ---- This one doesn't really care about helping. He just wants them to have his name.

Republicans are such liars. They hate anyone else having a public safety-net.

They are refusing to see that A) either the cost of medical care is too high and can bankrupt you; B) their conservative spokeswhore didn't know shit about money, no matter what he said on tv; or C) it's all a big scam.

[truedelphi]

89. I saw Snow on Bill Mahr just two months ago

He spent so much time talking about how great the economy is.

he said so many outrageously weird things that Mahr and the other guests went into shock, sitting silently, until Matt Taibi of Rolling Sonte spoke up and said of Snow's persona "I wouldn't expect people like you to tell me the right time of day!"

[here_is_to_hope]

97. Oh my....

"These children need Tony Touchstones appearing in their unfolding lives to gather strength from in all the years ahead. We can help that along."


I have no words....

[Canuckistanian]

23. You'd think if they paid someone to lie, they'd pay well.

There are PLENTY of ways to hand over a golden parachute for people like that.

Bushco - What a bunch of cheapskates.

[Greyhound]

26. Do I detect the distinct odor of a scam?

These lying assholes are not above anything, including propping up his corpse in order to wring $$ out of the simpletons.

[dysfunctional press]

27. if he didn't care enough about his family to have a decent life insurance policy...

why should the 99% of the population with a lower salary than his be expected to pick up the slack...?
why can't his family find a way to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps, instead of asking hard-working americans for handouts...?

:shrug:

we don't have kids, and we aren't wealthy, but my wife and i do have policies on each other.

[Solly Mack]

30. Uh....

snicker

[Vickers]

31. Geez, when I was "serving our country" I was only making $573.50 a month...

:eyes:

[Gato Moteado]

63. isn't that a disgrace?????

people putting their lives on the line make minimum wage. fascist mouthpieces make millions.

fuck the reich wing. let them rot in hell (unfortunately i dont believe in hell)

[LostInAnomie]

33. Their version of "broke" is quite different than our version of "broke".

Their version means that they might have to sell one of their vacation homes, or wait until 2010 to buy a new Mercedes.

Our version means, having to take a third job and our kids not going to college (without getting HUGE student loans).

[Ian David]

34. They won't need money when they're Raptured, will they?

I really believe many people in the Bush regime are operating under the assumption that the human race will end before January 20th.

[Gato Moteado]

60. nah, just the follwers believe that....

...the admin officials are money grubbers who pander to and manipulate the dumb fundies beautifully

[librechik]

35. I could tell you but my gravedancing shoes are at the cobbler being re-souled

ha ha

(don't hurt me!)

[Mnemosyne]

44. librechik,

:spank: :)

[librechik]

45. I thought I asked you not to hurt me?

:rofl:

I do deserve a spanking, don't I?

[Mnemosyne]

54. Sometimes it's not 'painful', only fun!

:rofl::evilgrin:

[FredScuttle]

37. Tony Snow was a media star on Faux from 1996-2006

He also had a syndicated radio talk show, aka manna from heaven for a wingnut media type

He served as WH press secretary from May 8, 2006 - September 13, 2007. A grand total of 68.5 weeks or 480 days


Either he was paying to serve as press secretary or he had the worst financial advisor in history.

[MiniMe]

38. He took a huge pay cut when he left to go to the WH.

I know, you don't really feel sorry for him, but if you are making tons of money, you tend to have a house, etc that reflects that and have the bills that go with it. So my guess is that he was spending more than he made as press secretary, and when his cancer came back, he didn't have time to make it back up. That's my guess, I don't know for sure.

[Ian David]

39. Ron Paul's Campaign Manager, 49, Dies Uninsured, Of Pneumonia, Leaving family $400,000 Debt

Ron Paul's Campaign Manager, 49, Dies Uninsured, Of Pneumonia, Leaving family $400,000 Debt
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3573898


Both Kent Snyder's family and Tony Snow's family should have taken the personal responsibility to choose a head of household who would not die, huh?

[Contrary1]

40. Oh my.

"This can be an ongoing contribution...his children will need firm conservative grounding and footing carrying them forward to navigate the world in the years ahead, and any way we can help them get so solidly educated in his absence, we'll do. It's the least we owe this blessed, inspiring soul who shared SO much of his life with us, all the while planning for his absence in his family's life..."

:wow:

[barbtries]

49. i actually find this disgusting

and in extremely poor taste. my best guess is the family's not ridiculously wealthy but i seriously doubt they're suffering the way millions of others are, in poverty. it's insulting. i've been poor most of my life. my father died without insurance when i was 13 and my brother was 14 and guess what - of the two of us i have the only college degree, an AA i finally collected at 32 years old. my mother worked her ass off to keep our house and as i recall she was still paying for his funeral years later. we were not unique. bottom line is i actually do not believe that tony snow with the positions he held while alive, left his family impoverished. i straight up don't believe it so this to me is some greedmeisters looking for some suckers. i could be wrong.

but at this very second i could tell the stories of half a dozen single mothers struggling to get to the next paycheck with enough food to feed their children, no time to worry about their "conservative grounding" and higher education. just FOOD! i mean people i know personally and whose circumstances i know of.

i gotta surf away from this story. :argh:

[southern_belle]

51. I hear you, barbtries!

Unbelievable! :(

[NashVegas]

41. The Republican Party Owes a HUGE Debt to Tony

Back in the very early 1990s, he and Suzanne Fields were Wingnut equivalents to Ann Coulter & Jonah Goldberg. They helped lay the groundwork for overzealous Republican columnists.

[kskiska]

43. Tony introduced Linda Tripp to Lucianne Goldberg. n/t

[backscatter712]

42. Did he not have health insurance?

I was under the impression that he would have decent health insurance as one of the public personalities on FOX News, and when he was working in the White House, he'd have government health insurance, probably the same as Congress gets, so either way, his cancer expenses would largely be covered.

[Sanity Claws]

46. Not broke -- just not enough to have his kids live in luxury

"Securing his children's future including their college educations." Was your future secured when you were a kid? No, you were expected to work. Did you have your college education, including tuition, board, books, etc., paid for by your parents or a trust fund? I kind of doubt it. Apparently Snow and his kids got used to the lifestyle that very, very few enjoy and they want to make it continue past Snow's death.
I see nothing in here about Snow being broke.

[Iris]

47. yeah - remember he left the press secretary job because he needed to make more money for his family

guess he should have left sooner.

[LiberalFighter]

59. I say the hell with his kids. What about kids of other families...

that can't save for their education? And those that work 2nd jobs or both parents work to put their kids thru college?

Many of them don't receive assistance or little.

[Gato Moteado]

61. i put my self thru college....my parents didn't have much money

i worked thru high school and college to put myself thru.

let these little republiturd slackers get a job.

[elehhhhna]

79. So he never heard of life insurance?

[elehhhhna]

82. He first "got" cancer in 2005. Then he took a LOAN to afford his 168K WH job:

...probably a home equity loan...WHAT WAS HE THINKING?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/12/obit.snow/index.html

Snow said he was leaving the White House position to make more money for his family. ]b]His White House salary was $168,000, and he said he had taken out a loan so he could take the job. Snow said he was leaving because the loan money ran out.

Snow was first diagnosed with colon cancer in February 2005. His colon was removed, and after six months of treatment, doctors said the cancer was in remission.

[Cheap_Trick]

50. How exactly did Snow Job serve his country?

By perpetuating the lies of the Bush Crime Syndicate? By helping to cover up lies that have cost us so many lives and trillions of dollars?

[high density]

53. I find it hard to believe he was broke

I think it likely means the kids will have to go to a state college instead of an ivy league one.

[Catherine Vincent]

55. One more comment....

In a way, I don't blame them for setting up a trust:

"In response to the many people who have called and asked how they could help,...."

Since so many people have asked to help, you may as well set up a trust. Maybe they weren't planning on asking for help but since so many asked, why not?

[kskiska]

58. There were loads of hints

and repetitious reporting on how Tony had to quit his White House job to sign onto the lecture circuit and take a CNN job to earn money for his family.

[Vickers]

57. Does his wife have a job?

:shrug:

Serious question.

[Gato Moteado]

62. i can help her get her resume together

nt

[kskiska]

64. Can't find anything about her

Her husband never talked about her.

They have two homes - one in Alexandria, VA, and a vacation home on the Maryland shore.

[SoCalDem]

73. Here's her picture.. She just needs to sell one of those homes..

[ladywnch]

65. Bush and Cheney owe him big time.

He carried their water for a long time. They should take care of his wife and kids. Just like in all crime families, when one of them is killed or goes to prison, the "family" takes care of the soldier's family.

[mitchum]

66. Now, that's a master republican....fleecing marks from the grave

scumbag
don't believe that "broke" shit for a second

[Bravo Zulu]

69. What a bunch of whiners

I hope they don't get any help from the government though, because they don't want the government to help anybody else?

[KamaAina]

71. Oh, quit whining and pony up, already

Why do you people hate America so much? :sarcasm:

Open your wallets for Tony!



(present exchange value: one buck -- maybe :P )

[Bluebear]

72. I'm shocked that the man died broke, what's WRONG with you people? Crying here....

:mad: "Serving our country" indeed. I could just vomit.

[DailyGrind51]

74. It took me ten years to recover financially from cancer treatment,

and, at the time (1980-82), my employer's BC/BS PPO paid 100% hospitalization 80/20% major medical.

[tblue37]

75. Republicans believe that enough is never enough--for them.

For ordinary people like us, though, they think any amount is more than we need or deserve.

[moc]

76. For people who believe in self sufficiency, Republicans sure do like handouts.

:eyes:

[crimsonblue]

77. he has plenty of money

but his kids need a $5 mil nest egg. Doesn't everyone?

[Ilsa]

80. I can't help it: I'm now wishing Wachovia bank in Bowie Maryland would go belly-up.

Hey, We're struggling to have enough to pay our insured child's therapy bills. Can't even think about our retirement. The Snows can go live on SSI.

[girl gone mad]

83. The Republican Mantra..

would be that this is the risk you take when you decide to have children at an advanced age. He should have gotten more life insurance, worked harder, etc., etc.

[Olney Blue]

84. I would suggest that his kids get a college loan like most of us....

but his former boss seems to have destroyed the banking system.

[greenbriar]

91. no kidding. Our kid is going off to college next year and we are still paying our ST loans

160,000 would totally pay off everything we owe and then some!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ilsa]

85. So, the real problem is that either medical bills bankrupt you,

or Tony Snow couldn't manage money and plan for his family, so he left it up to the public to support them.

This should be a wake-up call for anyone in the US in denial about the real cost of healthcare. Snow had to be making millions on FOX. His healthcare and insurance apparently weren't portable. He made all that money and still needs a public safety-net for his kids. Or the whole thing is a fraud.

[quiet.american]

88. Have to say it -- whatever happened to the GOP's proud mantra of "personal responsibility"?

And I will say I'm sorry he has passed away and do feel for his family. Must be a very difficult time for them.

[MindMatter]

90. "Serving our country at times means sacrifice ..." BULLSHIT

Yes, of course, public service can require some sacrifice, but in America, it should not mean dying destitute because of our fucked up health system. If he is out of money, it is because of our health system, and fuck him. He was a part of the system that fights very hard every day to keep Americans trapped in the most corrupt, least effective health care system among all developed nations. Fuck him and anybody who makes this stupid argument.

If he was too stupid to even understand this bullshit when it was destroying him, there's nothing more to say.

[daleo]

93. He needs the money to bribe his way into heaven

War-mongering is expensive that way.

[kskiska]

94. If Tony wouldn't save for retirement, why should you?

Slate article from 9/4/07 posted by Gatorboy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3624683

The Empty 401(k)

IF WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY TONY SNOW WON'T SAVE FOR RETIREMENT, WHY SHOULD YOU?

(snip)

When Snow came to the White House after several years at the Fox News Channel, it was clear that he had relied entirely on others to save for his retirement. Snow conceded: "As a matter of fact, I was even too dopey to get in on a 401(k). So there is actually no Fox pension. The only media pension I have is through AFTRA ." Even though his employer provided a 401(k) and would have matched contributions, and even though he was earning hundreds of thousands of dollars, Snow had not shown either the interest or financial capability to manage his own retirement benefits.

http://www.slate.com/id/2173288

[gratuitous]

96. Nobody is saying he died broke

They want to set up a trust fund for his kids. Isn't that nice? My only question is how fools and their money ever got together in the first place.