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HomerRamone (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:13 AM Original message |
GOP whistle-blower names Karl Rove and others in election fraud conspiracy |
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loveable liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
1. W'ever... this guy waits this long? |
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Patchuli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
30. But by revealing what was done |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
107. This information is almost six years old, FCS! Is everyone asleep. or what? |
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Patchuli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #107 |
111. Well we're not |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
54. Of course...he's a crook too! |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #54 |
67. That's good. That means the rats are starting to leave the ship. |
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screembloodymurder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #67 |
88. They shoot rats, don't they? |
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MissWaverly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #54 |
103. or maybe a pardon |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
108. Took the 2006 elections for Ohio and US Congress to go Dem before anyone would do anything. |
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tibbiit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
2. Yes! |
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Kierkegaard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
28. That rings a little hollow, though. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. That's what Washington pundits like Novakula are for. |
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jazzjunkysue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #31 |
66. Right. If you have the name, the date, the hotel, you don't need the email |
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Cheap_Trick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
47. Like they care? |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #28 |
49. An example: Spitzer. |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
62. once the shit hits the fan... |
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screembloodymurder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #62 |
89. I think the fan's broke. |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #89 |
100. ugh |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
42. Which raises the question of WHY the Congress would increase Bush's wiretapping ability . . ????? |
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Stuart G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
3. If prosecutes can put this guy in jail...then... |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
4. let's see if anything actually happens because of this whistleblower. |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 10:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
110. Notice how this shit only comes up a couple months before an election? |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
5. Good old Kenny Blackwell had the vote data in 2004 run through a .... |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
44. Meanwhile, the votes had been stolen before the counting, so who cares which computer reported the |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #44 |
76. This was only part of "it." |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
109. thank you for posting this information, Botany |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
6. Okay, this is important! |
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speedoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
7. K&R, and bookmarked. nt |
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mia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
8. He Who Does Not Hesitate: Stephen Spoonamore |
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Stuart G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
9. Most people think that they cannot get Rove...here is some more.. |
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liberalla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
10. OMG. Is it finally going happen? |
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Stuart G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:41 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. It could happen..... |
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Stuart G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:47 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. If Mike Connell..flips.........then... |
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Stuart G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. About Gov George Ryan.. from... Wikipedia.. |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 08:21 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. McConnell would incur an accident before he was ever allowed to testify. |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 08:19 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. These are the ones that scare me. Connell is an electoral Paul Hill, |
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Sancho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
13. Will this be the one? Clint Curtis has gone nowhere... |
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Tesla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 08:02 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Like I have said for 8 years..... |
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Stuart G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 08:04 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Putting Rove in Jail...would certainly help us get our contry back.. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #13 |
33. Clint Curtis Is A Total Kook. |
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miles 2 go (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
61. Why do you say Clint Curtis is a kook? |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
17. Publish, and be damned |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
20. Wasn't that the REAL reason why BushCo. wanted unfettered access to e-mails in the first place? |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
21. Damn!! I've been waiting for some good American, some Patriot to come forward |
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Riddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
22. I have a legal question......since we all know no criminal charges will ever be brought against |
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ellenfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 08:45 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. i do not think he can pardon civil suits. eom |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #22 |
56. None of them can pardon charges of war crimes, either |
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NBachers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 01:41 AM Response to Reply #22 |
114. How long will the investigations, hearings, |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
23. The k and the r |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
25. OMG! K&R |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
26. Finally. I KNEW there would be a few computer specialists involved |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
51. Actually, I've seen no evidence of a computer involved at all. |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #51 |
64. do you not even |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #64 |
101. U: "Is it true that only your hypothesis/scenario is valid?" |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #101 |
116. keep poo pooing... |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #116 |
120. U: "if you have no better idea as to how to go forward with stopping Election Theft... then STFU" |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. you run in circles. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. U: "there likely won't be any SOLID evidence until after an investigation is done" |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. that's not my responsibility |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
27. Sourcewatch on Mike Connell |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
50. Hmm very interesting |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
29. k&r n/t |
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PerpetuallyDazed (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
32. Excellent! |
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jazzjunkysue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
68. Yes. It's called Fooled Again by marc crispin miller of NYU. |
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MadrasT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
34. Major K & R!!! |
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RedLetterRev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Me, too, and I work with the same platform as DREs are based on |
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tpsbmam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
35. K&R n/t |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
36. To the gallows with these criminals... and make it snappy! |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
37. if this is for real it certainly is huge |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
38. great&always thought FISA telecom pass was for: Spy on Dems |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
39. How can this be simplified for media consumption. |
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jazzjunkysue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
69. All Yer Votes Are Belong To Us. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #69 |
83. Works for me, but my mother in law would be puzzled. |
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memory (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
41. I'm afraid to hope |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
43. and karl is out there doing the same thing in 2008 |
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lpbk2713 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
45. Connell got politically involved in the mid-80's. |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
46. BushCo having lots of dirt on all of them |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. too long! that is how they operate-always have |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
48. Why did Spoonamore turn on them . . . ???? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
52. Weren't they already busted for hacking into Dem legislators' computers? |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
55. K & R |
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LaPera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
57. Fuck....Just read this from Raw Story!! |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #57 |
74. OMG Cathy Cox and Blackwell too. Please God please!!!!!!!! |
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mina_seward (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
58. Dems have had |
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windbreeze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #58 |
77. OUR simple majority does NOT rule |
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mina_seward (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. gimme a break!!!!!!!! |
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windbreeze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. whatever... |
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mina_seward (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. Brash is good. The truth is brash. |
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windbreeze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. I didn't see a need for discussion... |
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HomerRamone (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. mina_seward is not the only one. |
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mina_seward (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #87 |
93. yes exactly |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #58 |
81. My guess is they are waiting for new circuit court judges |
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Road Scholar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
59. K&R |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
60. Why wouldn't they have dirt? |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
63. I was always hoping that someone would crack sometime. |
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jazzjunkysue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. That was always the basis of the denial: "Too many people would have to be involved..." |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
65. K&R... |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
70. caveat? |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
72. kick n/t |
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jazzjunkysue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
73. Brought to you by the letters K and R. Miller is amazing. Heard him in person. |
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demgrrrll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #73 |
86. Does he go into why Kerry conceded, was it as we have been told |
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jazzjunkysue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #86 |
117. I don't think he elaborated. He was standing next to Kerry at one point and said |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. What could be done by Kerry once the ballots were switched? |
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jazzjunkysue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #119 |
126. Right. He knew it was pointless. But why hasn't the senate followed up |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
75. KnR for optimism! n/t |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
78. K&R |
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lfairban (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
80. From the OP Link: |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #80 |
102. The suit alleges the State of Ohio did this (Blackwell and those acting in concert with him) |
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lfairban (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. That may be part of the same case. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. U: Are you saying that "boxes stuffed by ballot-switching" is not part of this case? |
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kimmerspixelated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
84. Pinch me, I must be dreaming! |
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nikto (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #84 |
98. The Death Penalty MUST have some place here... |
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kimmerspixelated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #98 |
122. couldn't agree more. |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
91. Cool! Others are joining Nader to make sure elections aren't stolen |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
92. Cool! Others are joining Nader to make sure elections aren't stolen |
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MetaTrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
94. Sooooo...is it the Republican plan to "prove" election fraud when Dems take a landslide? |
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lynettebro440 (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
95. Seeing people jumping ship |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
96. Anyone got a picture of |
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thenext8seconds (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
97. Has anyone tried sending this story to Keith Olbermann |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
99. PLEASE explain why anyone would trust a "GOP whistle-blower" who |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
105. K&R. We MUST drag these vampires out into the sun. |
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Ellipsis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
112. "Then, there’s the "scary thing." Conell and Bob Ney connection |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #112 |
118. Interesting article, but I see some disinformation in it too. |
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Crabby Appleton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #118 |
125. You are correct |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
113. Yeah but Mukasey will block it. Dem & repub leaders are the Money party. |
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NeoTheo (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
115. So, |
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