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Breeze54
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Sat Jul-19-08 12:39 PM Original message |
Poll question: Should the Roman Catholic Church allow women to be priests? |
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fortyfeetunder
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Sat Jul-19-08 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. The Catholic Church needs to get in the 21st Century |
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Breeze54
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Sat Jul-19-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I'm quite surprised that the overwhelming response in the poll |
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JerseygirlCT
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Sun Jul-20-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #2 |
104. If there were any such thing as democracy in the RCC, |
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noamnety
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Sat Jul-19-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Funny reason they give |
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Breeze54
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Sat Jul-19-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Good point! |
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HawkerHurricane
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Sat Jul-19-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
25. Heck... |
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defendandprotect
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Sat Jul-19-08 11:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
58. Priests are still wearing dresses --- |
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Hippo_Tron
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Sun Jul-20-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
130. Shhhh, don't give them any ideas |
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Bill McBlueState
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Sat Jul-19-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
45. I find it odd that they use that argument |
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Boojatta
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Sun Jul-20-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #45 |
125. Do Palestinian men have a habit of quoting the Old Testament? |
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exothermic
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Sat Jul-19-08 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. That's really close to the top of my "don't give a shit either way" list. |
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Breeze54
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Sat Jul-19-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. But you didn't vote in my poll. |
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2Design
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Sat Jul-19-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
5. its a cult - disband them - too many brainwashed - need deprogramming effort with all of these |
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Breeze54
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Sat Jul-19-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. It's a cult? I don't agree. |
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defendandprotect
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Sat Jul-19-08 11:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
59. It is a cult . . . |
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Zhade
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Sun Jul-20-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
78. An organized religion is just a cult with more people, time and money. |
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spoony
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Sat Jul-19-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Did you have a telegraph office write that post? |
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DailyGrind51
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Sat Jul-19-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
27. Actually, it is just the opposite! |
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defendandprotect
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Sat Jul-19-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #27 |
60. You missed one of the essentials of a "cult" -- getting them while they're young . . . |
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DailyGrind51
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Sun Jul-20-08 09:01 AM Response to Reply #60 |
97. What do you really know about the priesthood? |
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defendandprotect
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Sun Jul-20-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #97 |
117. We know what the Italians have told us . . . |
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DailyGrind51
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Mon Jul-21-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #117 |
140. The fact that sickos have gotten in |
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DailyGrind51
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Sat Jul-19-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
6. AND, priests should be permitted to marry! |
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PDJane
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Sat Jul-19-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. and give the priests some idea of |
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DailyGrind51
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Sat Jul-19-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. Damn right! |
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defendandprotect
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Sat Jul-19-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
61. or -- at least more average kinds of problems . . . i.e., having affairs, etc. |
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TahitiNut
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Sat Jul-19-08 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
11. Well, haven't celebate males done well? |
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Breeze54
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Sat Jul-19-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. The majority have... |
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galledgoblin
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Sat Jul-19-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
29. no, I'd say today's majority of celebate priests |
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Breeze54
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Sat Jul-19-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. "An estimated 0.2% of Roman Catholic priests have been proven to be abusers." |
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galledgoblin
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Sat Jul-19-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. yeah, that's what I was saying |
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Breeze54
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Sat Jul-19-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. accusations against 4,392 priests in the USA, equaling about 4% of all U.S. priests |
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galledgoblin
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Sat Jul-19-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I know what you're saying, but it doesn't really matter how low the number gets |
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Breeze54
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Sat Jul-19-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Wow... well, I don't know if they ALL understand the teachings or not... |
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galledgoblin
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Sat Jul-19-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. just my obervation of the followers |
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defendandprotect
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Sat Jul-19-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
62. Let's not presume that because "they didn't make the news" that all's well . . . |
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Mrs. Overall
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Sat Jul-19-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
14. "The Catholic Ch. has always said women cannot be priests because Jesus didn't have female Apostles" |
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defendandprotect
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Sat Jul-19-08 11:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
63. No . .. I think what they said was that God/Jesus was male . . . |
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Kajsa
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Sun Jul-20-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
121. Mary Magdalene was an apostle, IMHO. |
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Peregrine Took
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Sat Jul-19-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
15. Its not part of our tradition which can be traced back 2000 years to Peter. |
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Mrs. Overall
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Sat Jul-19-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Sorry, but many "traditions" and official doctrines have been added (and subtracted) |
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GreenPartyVoter
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Sat Jul-19-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Not all traditions are good, though. It wasn't traditional for women to do a lot of things |
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LostinVA
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Sat Jul-19-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #19 |
68. And, in this case, the poster is flat out wrong |
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JerseygirlCT
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Sun Jul-20-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #68 |
106. True enough |
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galledgoblin
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Sat Jul-19-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. actually, there were many priestesses back in the early days |
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defendandprotect
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Sat Jul-19-08 11:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
65. Your tradition is also based on Goddess worship . . . |
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LostinVA
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Sat Jul-19-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
66. Actually, the early Church did allow female priests and priests could get married |
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defendandprotect
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Sat Jul-19-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. ....and then, of course, POPE JOAN snuck in there . . . !!! |
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JerseygirlCT
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Sun Jul-20-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #15 |
105. Traditions change. |
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spoony
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Sat Jul-19-08 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
16. No opinion. I'm not Catholic. |
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goddess40
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Sat Jul-19-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. I'm not either but they should allow women to be priests |
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defendandprotect
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Sat Jul-19-08 11:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
69. Well, you understand of course that it does effect society . . . |
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spoony
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Sun Jul-20-08 09:07 AM Response to Reply #69 |
98. Not really, so long as they can choose not to be Catholic |
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defendandprotect
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Sun Jul-20-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #98 |
115. Of course, patriarchy is still a problem . . . as intolerance for homosexuals continues |
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spoony
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Sun Jul-20-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #115 |
120. Ah, the kitchen sink emergeth |
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galledgoblin
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Sat Jul-19-08 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
20. my older sister just entered the Seminary (n/t) |
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undeterred
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Sat Jul-19-08 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
21. The Catholic Church will NEED to start ordaining women |
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JerseygirlCT
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Sun Jul-20-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #21 |
107. They will ordain farm animals before they're ready to |
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terrya
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Sat Jul-19-08 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
22. Yes. yes, yes. But it will be at least 100 years before it happens. |
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galledgoblin
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Sat Jul-19-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. I see a schism coming well before then. |
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Marrah_G
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Sat Jul-19-08 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
23. It's not my religion, not something I have an opinion on. |
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Brigid
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Sat Jul-19-08 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
24. Oh, yes. Absolutely. |
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MonkeyFunk
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Sat Jul-19-08 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
26. It's not my church |
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Breeze54
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Sat Jul-19-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. No women do... |
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MonkeyFunk
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Sat Jul-19-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Well, I'm a man |
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defendandprotect
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Sun Jul-20-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #26 |
70. Yes, you do . . . because it effects all of society . . . |
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JI7
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Sun Jul-20-08 12:09 AM Response to Reply #70 |
75. but it's a volunteer organization that is based on beliefs |
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defendandprotect
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Sun Jul-20-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #75 |
87. You seem to miss the point that YOUR tax dollars are supporting them . . |
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MonkeyFunk
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Sun Jul-20-08 03:38 AM Response to Reply #70 |
93. Well I think they're idiots |
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defendandprotect
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Sun Jul-20-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #93 |
114. You can also push back against their political influence on government . . . |
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dtotire
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Sat Jul-19-08 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
34. At This Time, No |
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Breeze54
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Sat Jul-19-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. 2,000 years isn't "gradual" enough for you? |
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noamnety
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Sat Jul-19-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
56. quoting MLK, JR: |
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JerseygirlCT
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Sun Jul-20-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #56 |
109. Exactly. nt |
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defendandprotect
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Sun Jul-20-08 12:01 AM Response to Reply #34 |
71. Isn't that what patriarchy continued to say to African-Americans . . . wait---???????? |
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JerseygirlCT
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Sun Jul-20-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #34 |
108. Why? |
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Hekate
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Sat Jul-19-08 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
35. Separation of church & state means they get to decide this for themselves--not public opinion polls |
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Breeze54
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Sat Jul-19-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Who said a public opinion poll was deciding this? |
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noamnety
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Sat Jul-19-08 11:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
57. Is job discrimination against women a secular law? |
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Hekate
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Sun Jul-20-08 02:38 AM Response to Reply #57 |
91. Depends on the job--and whether they take federal money connected with it. |
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noamnety
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Sun Jul-20-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #91 |
116. I view it as "an exemption" to secular laws |
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Hekate
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Sun Jul-20-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #116 |
122. As a pagan, I do not want the State telling me what form my sacraments should take. The Constitution |
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noamnety
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Sun Jul-20-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. Many laws apply to church sacraments |
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Hekate
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Sun Jul-20-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Not sure how what I said got interpreted as an ad hominem attack, but let's drop it... |
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defendandprotect
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Sun Jul-20-08 12:05 AM Response to Reply #35 |
73. The Church has been trying to overturn Separation of Church and State . . . |
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Hekate
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Sun Jul-20-08 02:54 AM Response to Reply #73 |
92. It's up to us to keep pushing back--our founding fathers were sons ofthe Enlightenment,not theocrats |
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Fire Walk With Me
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Sat Jul-19-08 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
39. No. |
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Occam Bandage
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Sat Jul-19-08 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
42. Whatever they want to do, I suppose. People can join or leave as they choose. |
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defendandprotect
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Sun Jul-20-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #42 |
74. However, church teachings impact all of society . . . intolerance for homosexuals, |
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Sat Jul-19-08 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
47. Still in the Dark Ages. |
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defendandprotect
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Sun Jul-20-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #47 |
76. Evidently, Pope Ratzy is turning the church towards Evangelicalism . . . !!! |
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OhioChick
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Sat Jul-19-08 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
48. Yes n/t |
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LeftishBrit
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Sat Jul-19-08 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
49. Yes, since you asked - but as a non-Catholic, it's not really up to me. |
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defendandprotect
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Sun Jul-20-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #49 |
77. It is up to you . . . |
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Sat Jul-19-08 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
50. Yes |
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Sat Jul-19-08 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
51. This is like asking if Hindus should allow reincarnation. |
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Common Sense Party
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Sat Jul-19-08 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
52. No, it's their church, they can believe what they want. |
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defendandprotect
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Sun Jul-20-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #52 |
79. The hierarchy of the church often believes in control -- |
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Common Sense Party
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Sun Jul-20-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #79 |
90. All fine and dandy. |
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defendandprotect
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Sun Jul-20-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #90 |
113. That's just the point . . . no you can't . . . |
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rucky
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Sat Jul-19-08 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
53. Only if men are allowed to be Nuns. n/t |
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Breeze54
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Sat Jul-19-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Except nuns marry God when they become nuns, but priests don't marry God. |
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JerseygirlCT
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Sun Jul-20-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #54 |
110. Not at all |
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galledgoblin
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Sun Jul-20-08 03:43 AM Response to Reply #53 |
94. I do wonder what will happen to the sisters and the brothers in the future... |
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rucky
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Sun Jul-20-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Kinda like becoming a waiter at Hooters. |
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JerseygirlCT
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Sun Jul-20-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #94 |
111. I'm sure there would be those who continue to feel called to |
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galledgoblin
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Sun Jul-20-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #111 |
119. excellent points (n/t) |
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mrs_p
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Sun Jul-20-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #53 |
126. they can become |
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mvd
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Sat Jul-19-08 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
55. I'm a non-practicing Catholic |
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Sat Jul-19-08 11:55 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. 'Some' suggest that the book of John |
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defendandprotect
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Sun Jul-20-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #64 |
80. Of course . . . Mary was the "Apostle to the Apostles" . . . |
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krispos42
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Sun Jul-20-08 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
72. No |
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defendandprotect
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Sun Jul-20-08 12:15 AM Response to Reply #72 |
82. Right . . . the Catholic Church still REFUSES to acknowledge the full personhood of females . . . |
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krispos42
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Sun Jul-20-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #82 |
84. I expect them to be consistant with their beliefs |
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defendandprotect
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Sun Jul-20-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Honesty isn't exactly their policy . . . |
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Manifestor_of_Light
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Sun Jul-20-08 01:06 AM Response to Reply #84 |
89. And Judaism has four divisions, unlike the RCC. |
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defendandprotect
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Sun Jul-20-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #89 |
112. Well, "their beliefs" . . . are imposed upon our society . . . |
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spoony
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Sun Jul-20-08 09:18 AM Response to Reply #82 |
99. wtf indeed, what on earth are you on about? |
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Book Lover
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Sun Jul-20-08 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
81. No |
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defendandprotect
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Sun Jul-20-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. And they also have this Vatican nation -- one acre -- all males !!! |
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Leeny
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Sun Jul-20-08 12:47 AM Response to Reply #81 |
85. exactly! |
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Canuckistanian
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Sun Jul-20-08 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
88. I couldn't care less |
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pampango
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Sun Jul-20-08 05:49 AM Response to Original message |
95. Definitely "Yes" but to be fair what about women as rabbis and imams? n/t |
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marshall
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Sun Jul-20-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #95 |
102. There are currently female rabbis, but no female imams |
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salguine
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Sun Jul-20-08 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
100. Maybe a better question would be, "Should the Catholic Church make the leap |
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aikoaiko
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Sun Jul-20-08 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
101. I see no reason beyond tradition to not allow female priests-- but they can do what want... |
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JerseygirlCT
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Sun Jul-20-08 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
103. This is one of the major reasons I am no longer R. Catholic |
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tomreedtoon
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Sun Jul-20-08 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
118. I'm a "collapsed Catholic." |
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mrs_p
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Sun Jul-20-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #118 |
128. um, what jesuits |
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tomreedtoon
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Mon Jul-21-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #128 |
133. I don't hang around any Jesuits anymore. |
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mrs_p
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Mon Jul-21-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #133 |
135. i am truly glad |
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Ilsa
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Sun Jul-20-08 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
127. As far as I'm concerned, any church with stupid rules can |
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mrs_p
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Sun Jul-20-08 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
129. so, i'm still considered new here |
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noamnety
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Sun Jul-20-08 11:32 PM Response to Reply #129 |
131. It is generally acceptable to offer criticism where due |
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ProdigalJunkMail
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Mon Jul-21-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #131 |
134. sorry...lwfern...your first option |
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noamnety
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Mon Jul-21-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #134 |
136. Have you alerted on the posts when you see them? |
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Mon Jul-21-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #136 |
137. i do...and it is sad |
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Mon Jul-21-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #137 |
138. If you see something along the lines of that |
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Mon Jul-21-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #138 |
139. i haven given up on that front |
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Mon Jul-21-08 04:56 AM Response to Original message |
132. The Roman Catholic Church should fold, |
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