OMFG....No Blacks or Mongolians allowed in Bejing bars !!!

[RethugAssKicker]

Heard it this morning on the Tom Joyner Morning show.

The Bejing govt... is asking all bars (in an effort to clean up), not to
allow black people or Mongolians in during the Olympics....

Anyone hear anything about this?....Un fucking believable !!!..
If this is true, I hope no one shows up for their fucking Commie games !

[SteppingRazor]

1. I think they should also ban Asians from the bars.

:popcorn:

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[marmar]

8. Racist jokes are just sooooo funny! Ha ha ha.....

:eyes:

[XemaSab]

31. Hear, hear!

:popcorn:

[entanglement]

54. And Jews...to gain real racist 'cred' you have to exclude Jews

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[Renew Deal]

2. Commie games?

1980 was a long time ago.

[RethugAssKicker]

18. Don't you know that China is a communist country????

[readmoreoften]

23. China is not a communist country. China WAS a communist country.

China is quite obviously a capitalist country. It is a capitalist-totalitarian country. They don't exactly operate under a communist economic system and they're quite obviously not a dictatorship of the proletariat.

[Dorian Gray]

27. The ruling party

is the Chinese Communist Party. They identify as communist, even if the economic system has fallen by the wayside.

[readmoreoften]

56. What they call themselves is not relevant. Their economic system is hardline capitalist.

Period. They are a totalitarian nation with a capitalist economy.

[Hugabear]

58. Big Fucking Deal.

Bush calls himself lots of things which he ain't.

[anonymous171]

28. Well, they did give it a try.

[readmoreoften]

57. Yes. They were communist for about 18 years. Since the late 1970s they have been capitalist.

Deng Xiao Peng was a capitalist, authoritarian, counter-revolutionary who took control of the nation after Mao Zedong. There were elements within the Chinese Communist party who were authoritarian and those who were not. Mao Zedong was an anti-authoritarian communist who instructed the poor and working classes to rise up against those in the communist party who had become the new ruling class. This caused a world of chaos. Peng was an authoritarian rightist who wanted to institute "reforms" but still clung to the idea that he was a communist. Peng's reforms, of course, became a full-scale capitalist economy with the Party serving as the new elitist state keeping the workers in servitude. Peng and his predecessors are closer to the Nationalists who fought and killed them until 1949 than the Communist party of Mao Zedong.

[leftyladyfrommo]

3. That doesn't surprise me. I think they really think caucasions are

inferior, too. I'm surprised they are letting them in bars.

I'm referring to the Chinese govt. here - this is no way a slur against Chinese citizens anywhere.

[still_one]

4. Funny, I have been to China numerous times, and NEVER saw that in Bejing

or for that matter in anywhere I travelled

[exothermic]

6. Yes, it is unbelievable. As in not believable.

:shrug:

[dipsydoodle]

7. Your post

so tell me. What do the Chinese define as black ?

There also seems to be some doubt as to the validity of the claim :

China's preeminent English-language media analysis site Danwei didn't lend credence to the SMCP report, calling the high-level ban "unlikely." However Jeremy Goldkorn writes on Danwei that "it is highly plausible that some low level cops have issued such instructions, especially with the current state of high alert in Beijing making officials and government agencies paranoid and very nervous about foreigners."

Further investigation by Beijing Boyce, who interviewed Beijing bar owners on the alleged ban, found that low-level Beijing cops have been visiting the capital city's watering holes and warning owners and employees to keep their eye on black patrons. According to an update Saturday on Beijing Boyce:

An owner said police met with Sanlitun bar reps and told them to monitor black patrons. He said the police told the reps that drug dealers are predominantly black in the area. He said the police did not ask bar owners to ban blacks.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/19/no-blacks-mongolians-allo_n_113838.html

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[Ian David]

10. Report: Beijing bars told to ban black people during Olympics

Report: Beijing bars told to ban black people during Olympics
by Dedric Lam

In a couple of weeks Beijing will turn into a party town and Sanlitun is predicted to be the epicenter of the Olympic night events. The South China Morning Post has however reported that the bar owners in the area were asked to refuse service to black patrons. The article reports:

Bar owners near the Workers' Stadium in central Beijing say they have been forced by Public Security Bureau officials to sign pledges agreeing not to let black people enter their premises.

"Uniformed Public Security Bureau officers came into the bar recently and told me not to serve black people or Mongolians," said the co-owner of a western-style bar, who asked not to be named.

We checked twice just to make sure: This story comes from the SCMP and not The Onion ... in 2008 ... as the world awaits the ultra-harmonious "One World, One Dream" Olympics. Did you hear that? That was the sound of our jaw dropping.

But something about this report doesn't gel. Could this possibly be true? Could it possibly be enforced? Given the strong national ties that China has built with African nations in the last two years coupled with the fact that many Olympic athletes (and their families) hail from African descent — not to mention that such a policy would be despicable and horrendous PR for a country looking to improve its image — it sounds like, perhaps, some racist in the Beijing government went out on his own on this one.

More:
http://shanghaiist.com/2008/07/18/the_racist_games.php

[On the Road]

14. OMG -- I Have Some of that Darlie Toothpaste!

Had no idea that it used to be called something else. Although the packaging says it's Taiwanese, that maybe that can't be put on the PRC.

Blatantly racist packaging used to be common in this country into the 40s and 50s. The "Cook's Chicken" in "Ghost World" was not an invention.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

21. "The Confederate States Of America" is a good mockumentary to watch. n/t

[Clark2008]

26. Not really.

I'm all for poking fun, but that satire is about like the New Yorker - it went way too far.

It got downright offensive to this Southerner after a while.

A little goes a long way and this went a way too long.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

34. What was so offensive about it? n/t

[Vidar]

36. I agree. It's a hoot.

[Prefer]

11. Tom Joyner - an unbiased source

No motivation to spread misinformation there...

[tomreedtoon]

43. Well, it does hit Joyner's parish, so to speak.

Over the years I've seen a lot of black entertainment shows, such as Joyner's brief TV show and the Apollo Comedy Hour. You bet they're sensitive to racism. And they are all too ready to engage in reverse racism (on the Apollo show the white cast member, no matter what he was like, was always tagged as a racist and humiliated by the rest of the cast).

But if I were black, I'd certainly be pretty sensitive to racism. And I'd sure be suspicious of racism practiced by non-whites.

I don't listen to Joyner on the radio, but I saw a lot of his TV show, and he was a decent guy and didn't practice that kind of reverse racism on his show. So if he is upset about this, I'd put a lot of faith in his judgment. I wouldn't react this way if the report came from Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton.

[Coventina]

12. I heard part of a report on BBC's "The World" last night

that talked about how the Chinese government assumes that anyone who is black is a drug dealer.

It mentioned that recently the police came down a street where there are many black clubs (in Beijing) and arrested everyone who is black.

The report said that they did not know how this may affect African-Americans attending the Games.

[Ian David]

16. Let's send Alan Keyes! n/t

[tomreedtoon]

42. And hanging around blacks might inspire...dancing!

And dancing brings joy! And joy might undermine the Chinese government.

Come to think of it, dancing could probably undermine Bush's government, too.

[bdamomma]

13. I wish they were more concerned about their air quality than

about their stupidness about black people.

[On the Road]

15. China is Indeed a Racist County

but I can't believe they could misread the situation so badly as impose this policy. It would not be secret, and would be a disaster.

The US media is not going to cover this up -- it's ratings, ratings, ratings. Can you imagine the flap if US Olympic athletes and their families can't get into bars and restaurants? That alone could trigger all kinds of reactions.

Having said that, they can probably get away with banning the Mongolians.

[ForrestGump]

17. Wonder if they allow dogs?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fif63sQDsqw

[donco6]

35. Not on the menu.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=avCzRYIhCuD0&refer=asia

[Marr]

19. You'll find plenty of systemic racism in Asia. Japan is surprisingly racist.

One of the most popular comic books over there a few years back was called, "I Hate the Damn Koreans". They have Japanese-only bars and restaurants, and by Japanese, I mean of native Japanese descent. Naturalized citizens of any persuasion other than Japanese are not welcome either.

There's a lot of this sort of thing in South Korea as well. The only thing that surprises me about this story is the stunning ignorance it suggests on the part of China's ruling crooks. To do this while the world's cameras are pointing at them speaks of outright stupidity.

[skooooo]

24. For all its faults, I think the U.S. is way ahead of the rest of the world..

...in this area. It's not perfect, but everywhere I've gone racism is more blatant and accepted by the average person than I think it is here.

[Zynx]

30. Indeed. The most racist people I know are my Chinese friends.

They have said things that have made my jaw drop.

[old mark]

25. Japan is possibly the most racist nation on earth.

They look down on everyone, non"Japanese" natives of Japan included..

mark

[entanglement]

53. Look down, yes. Beat or lynch people based on race...no. That's more of a European thing.

[vaberella]

47. It's not surprising. Koreans share the same hatred, but persecution does that to people...

The Koreans were basically tortured, mistreated, and persecuted by the Japanese. Ever hear of the Korean war, that was to push out the Japanese who had control of them for 40 or so years.

Koreans are not racist, just anti EVERYONE who is not Korean. However there are signs up in some bars that they will not serve Nigerians.

[ljm2002]

20. Every time I hear one of these stories...

...about how awful the Chinese government is -- racism, Tibet, slave labor in the prisons -- the thought that immediately pops into my head is this: We incarcerate more of our citizens than China does. Not a higher percentage, but more people in absolute numbers. When you compare our relative populations, it is actually mind-boggling that we would have a higher number. Add to that the fact that blacks and Hispanics and the poor are disproportionately imprisoned, get longer sentences and generally harsher sentences and ... well you see where I'm going with this, right? As in, who the hell are we to point fingers?

I don't mean they're totally wonderful or that we should not criticize perceived wrongs, wherever we may see them. But so much of it seems to me to be something like a big bully who, to deflect attention from their own bad behavior, wave their hands and point and say "See? Look at him! Yeah, him, over there! He's really bad! We should all shun him!"

Not trying to pick on you here, it's just there is such a hue and cry about China right now, every time I log in to DU it seems there is a new post saying we should not watch the Olympics because it is being held there -- yet have we not learned time and time again, that the way to promote change is to engage, not to isolate.

[Virginia Dare]

29. China has been out of isolation for more than 30 years..

and there has been little progress, if any.

[skooooo]

32. Same for Russia..

There's no impetus to change in these places.

[depakid]

40. "There's no impetus to change in these places."

Which is EXACTLY like America- where people support draconian criminal laws, even for kids and adolescents. No impetus to change in any direction other than to BUILD EVEN MORE prisons and incarcerate even more people (often with unjust mandatory sentences) and spend ever greater amounts of money, while cutting funds for education and essential social services.

IMO, considering America's history (and what it supposedly aspires to) that's as bad or worse than anything China and Russia do.

[skooooo]

50. The topic is race and racism, not imprisonment.

:wtf:

[orleans]

22. indirect link:

The nation of China has been preparing for years to receive the world in the 2008 Olympic Summer Games. The expected infrastructure improvements have taken place, as well as less obvious measures like ad campaigns to stop citizens from constantly hocking loogies on the street. Now there's buzz that a new set of preparations may discrimate against certain people during games festivities.

According to Huffingtonpost.com, Hong Kong's English newspaper The South China Morning Post reported Friday that Chinese authorities have issued a secret ban on blacks, Mongolians and other "social undesirables" from Beijing's bars during the Olympics. The Chinese news source's online site is for subscribers only, but a blog called Bejing Boyce reposted the following from the article:


Beijing authorities are secretly planning to ban black people and others it considers social undesirables from entering the city's bars during the Olympic Games, a move that would contradict the official slogan, "One World, One Dream".

Bar owners near the Workers' Stadium in central Beijing say they have been forced by Public Security Bureau officials to sign pledges agreeing not to let black people enter their premises....

Security officials are targeting Sanlitun, which Olympic organisers expect to be a key destination for foreign tourists looking for a party during the Games.

The pledges that Sanlitun bar owners had been instructed to sign agreed to stop a variety of activities in their establishments, including dancing and serving customers with black skin, they said.

The Summer games are scheduled to begin August 8.
http://livesteez.com/news/news_detail/943

[kitty1]

33. Well the Chinese bar owners will have their ass's handed to them...

if they try to pull that on any black tourists wanting some refreshment.
Maybe they should let the U.S. Men's basketball team have a few diplomatic words with the govt officials there.
Expletives translate well into any language.

[comtec]

38. You're assuming the chinese gov cares

I mean, they have almost literally A L L our manufacturing.
They can go down the street with a bullhorn saying the most offense, insulting things in every language, and STILL no one would dare take any actual action.
After all the patents, and copyright laws the Chinese government had broken blatantly, or simply turned a blind eye to because it was wang lo (us) patents being violated, they have Z E R O respect for us.

[Tindalos]

37. This may be a mistranslation

According to a coworker, this is a mistranslation referring to a Chinese gang whose name translates roughly to Black Hand Gang. Apparently the Chinese word for "black" is common in gang/criminal names. This is the best link I could find on short notice:


Sunday, July 20, 2008

Following Entry Posted 7/20/2008 07:27:00 PM
Olympics Prep: Blacks Banned in Beijing Bars

<snip>

From another source who actually talked to a number of bar owners, it appears that the police met with bar owners and asked them
to monitor black patrons for possible drug activity but no blanket order was issued not to serve blacks.

Furthermore, there is some confusion regarding the Chinese translation of "black." In the mix of Chinese dialects, "black" often
refers to criminal elements as opposed to skin color. Therefore, if police asked business owners to look out for people involved
in drugs, prostitution, extortion, etc., the guidance could easily be interpreted as "black people."

In summary, Chinese authorities purport to be proactive in criminal profiling, however, available evidence seems to indicate that
blacks are being racially profiled for discrimination. Either way, though, it doesn't explain a blanket discrimination against Mongolians.

<snip>

http://interested-participant.blogspot.com/

[depakid]

39. You believe what you hear on American radio?

:shrug:

[EFerrari]

41. Multiple reports, including one up thread from the BBC.

If it is a lie, it's getting good circulation.

[depakid]

44. Sounds like there's more to the story

http://www.theage.com.au/world/fears-of-a-nofun-olympics-in-beijing-20080718-3hkb.html

[EFerrari]

45. Naomi Wolf was on Amy's show last week, talking about the millions

being spent to put up surveillance cameras that are linked and can track you in real time.

When the games are over, the cameras stay. State of the art State control.

[vaberella]

46. I don't believe this story for one bloody moment. China is actually

one of the most racially diverse nations in the world. Secondly, ever since the Olympics thing I've been hearing one bad thing after another against China. It's a crock and I won't bother with it.

[skooooo]

51. They ban blacks from bars..

...and you don't believe its a racist country? Believe it. It's true.

[Joanne98]

48. They're not commies. They're fascists now.

[-..__...]

49. Maybe because the last time they let them in...

they nearly destroyed the bar.

[entanglement]

52. China is guilty of a lot of things...but this smells like BS

[rucky]

55. Throat singing breaks their karaoke machines. n/t

[mrs_p]

59. if this is really true (which i'm not convinced it is)

then i would hope that our US athletes come together to boycott. we have many AA on our teams and i can't imagine that the majority of our athletes would be OK with their teammates being banned. but then, maybe they won't be hanging around beijing or, at least, not in bars? :shrug:

[matt007]

60. I lived in East Asia for a year (Korea)

i've been to Beijing..........Asians are pretty racist....even to other types of Asians.....i'm not shocked