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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 11:25 PM
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Failure To Impeach Now Will Irreparably Damage The Republic
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The Democrats were returned to power by the American people because the people demanded the ongoing criminal conduct of this administration be stopped, and that it’s resultant baseless and illegal war on Iraq be ended. But Democrats running for office engaged in a game of political brinkmanship directed from the highest levels of the Democratic Party, for perceived political gains; “Impeachment is off the table” stated Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

The political game which has been engaged in was shrewdly designed to enable Democrats to evade their constitutional responsibilities based on a calculation that even were they to state their opposition to impeachment, it would improve their election chances. It was furthermore done so that any possible damage caused to their election chances by their refusal, would not be enough to keep the people from choosing the only alternative they had to the GOP rubber stamp and it’s accompanying abuse of power by the executive branch. It was cynical in the extreme, and the game continues to this day for the –perceived- longer range political benefit the DLC believes it can glean from allowing the Bush crime junket to continue two more years, hopefully –to them- further imploding the political viability of the GOP. It must end now: No one has the right to remove any constitutional legal process from the intrinsic right of the American people to maintain a society of laws.

That the Democrats stated “Impeachment is off the table” and can claim they did not promise to impeach Bush and Cheney, in no way excuses them from their constitutional obligation to do so now. The American people were offered a Hobsen’s choice in 2006, the nature of which -if allowed to continue- would result, and is resulting in continued and additional criminal activity by the administration. There exist too many grounds for a legitimate impeachment proceeding against Bush and Cheney than can even be reasonably listed here. Like organized crime, in the Bush administration the criminal conduct is not coincidental to the nature, it is the nature. I have no doubt a successful case against the Bush administration could be prosecuted under the RICO statute based on what’s already evident.


Bush’s so-called “signing statements” are alone worthy of causing his impeachment, for they evidence an open and willful refusal to recognize and abide in the law. They are a strict violation of the oath of office and are in fact nothing short of declarations of sedition against the Constitution and Republic. In addition to this, if falsifying intelligence, covering up exculpatory intelligence for the purposes of starting a major war with tens of thousands of American casualties, systematic kidnapping and torture in violation of international law, warrentless wiretapping, and retribution against anyone who exposes acts of high treason –Joe Wilson- which damage national security isn’t a long enough list of serious crimes to warrant impeachment, no crime or crimes committed by an executive ever will be. We are talking about the largest crimes ever committed in the name of the American people, with the most serious -national security, life and death- consequences in our history.

The Democrats must be forced to uphold the law and to act on behalf of a damaged American people. The crimes committed by this administration were not only against the international community and the laws to which it is constitutionally bound as signatories, but are high crimes against the American people collectively. The crimes were committed in our names. We are obligated to end them. There will be consequences of the highest magnitude if the Democratic majority in Congress continues to refuse to act.

More: http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_jay_esbe_070306_failure_to_impeach_n.htm

Amen Brother, Amen...

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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 11:30 PM
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1. Very true.
We must impeach if we pretend to care about justice, liberty and all that jazz.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 11:32 PM
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2. I say impeach just on the basis of information revealed during Libby's trial.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 11:34 PM
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3. We cannot fail when we move
We can't just make the attempt and fail, that will look even worse than not trying. We have to DESTROY Bush and the GOP in the process of impeachment and we have to make sure it doesn't look like partisan bs as usual.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:33 AM
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16. It is important for FUTURE generations to get the crimes into the HISTORIC RECORD
even if the votes aren't there to remove.

Would you prefer we never knew anything about IranContra, BCCI and Iraqgate just because BushInc avoided paying any ultimate price?

Imagine if Clinton had allowed the pursuit of the outstanding matters in those operations - we would never be suffering Bush2 now - or 9/11 - or this Iraq war.

http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 11:34 PM
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4. Yes, ABSOLUTELY.
Edited on Wed Mar-07-07 11:35 PM by calimary
BTW - my latest column, posted over in GD-P, contains the most complete updated collection of TOLL FREE Capitol Hill switchboard numbers. Doesn't cost anything except a couple of minutes of your time, and they'll transfer you to anybody's House and/or Senate office just for the asking.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3149945

If you check the link in the OP, the numbers are all there at the bottom.

Have at it, guys!

Make some noise!!!

If they think you don't care, THEY WON'T, EITHER!!!

And thank you, intensely!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 11:45 PM
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6. Thank You calimary, Will Definitely Be Making Use Of It !!!
Have you checked out: http://www.a28.org/


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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 11:37 PM
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5. Yes, BU$HCO must be IMPEACHED!
But, pressure must be put on our Representatives to do so. I gave Heather Wilson my view. Maybe if she has to resign soon and Richardson appoints a good Impeachment prone Rep.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 11:54 PM
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7. I've been telling my friends/family...
That if there is no impeachment, I will move my family.

If the corruption, the treason is not addressed, then the Republic is lost.


-PERIOD-

We're thinking Canada to Switzerland.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:00 AM
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8. Unfortunately it comes down to this

Both the Repubs and the Dems have the same Corporate masters

and America needs the Oil

So there will be a hell of a lot of Fucking Hot Air
but ultimately NO Impeachment...

Sad but true....
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:04 AM
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9. by taking everything off the table, the dems are showing how weak and ineffective they are.
That ass needs to start kickin for real or there is no way this country isn't going to dump them too.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:36 AM
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10. He might as well be impeached now.
I doubt impeachment will result in removal from office even if convicted. Even with the investigations of what has to be high crimes Bush no longer has anything to lose. The disdain the Bush neo-cons have for the rule of law in the past, would Bush follow the rules of the Constitution and actually leave? Remember we are talking about the "Unitary Executive". They have already denied "Habeas Corpus", openly stolen elections, started wars under false pretenses, stolen billions from public coffers, who knows what else. What makes anyone think BFEE will reverse course now and honor the Constitution? Even though Bush deserves an impeachment trial today I am convinced this is why Democrats in Congress are avoiding it.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:41 AM
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11. Prepare to live in an irreparably damaged republic.
Edited on Thu Mar-08-07 12:42 AM by Kablooie
There is no -- absolutely NO -- movement to impeach. There isn't even a real movement to hold anyone accountable. There's a lot of fiddle-farting around that will continue until Bush pleasantly and honorably ends his TWO terms.

And yes. Our government will have absolutely NO moral base anymore. We will never again be able to hold our government up as a model for others. We live in a weak, corrupt, evil government. Just the sort of thing we have always decried.

GET USED TO IT. IT'S YOUR FUTURE.

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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 07:52 AM
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12. Sure there is. State legislatures are diving in already....
If ever there was a grassroots movement to impeach, it is now.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 08:17 AM
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14. Somebody needs to send this op ed to the Democrats
about to vote in New Mexico.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 08:36 AM
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15. There's a movement, just no representation for the people
on this matter among elected officials. They love their jobs so much they just might lose them by continiuing to take progressive votes for granted. At some point, people give up after being hit over the head so much.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 08:07 AM
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13. So true
"No one has the right to remove any constitutional legal process from the intrinsic right of the American people to maintain a society of laws."

I know I'm not forgetting this if there won't be any action. The whole gist of the truth is that the DLC doesn't stop the GOP. Thus, the talk about how we need them to get elected to stop the GOP is mute by their actions.
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ajeffersonian Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:33 AM
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17. Impeach Now!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:11 PM
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18. Last Gasp, 24 Hour Kick !!!
Please read it.

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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 01:18 AM
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19. We are in real danger
of losing this country for good.
If the Democrats do not step< up to the plate and make a stand for all of us, impeachment of bush and cheney - it is already gone.[br />Simple as that.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 01:38 AM
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20. diverging beliefs......
Edited on Fri Mar-09-07 01:39 AM by loyalsister
Elected and establishment Democrats are top down and have their own ideas about what is best for us.
I think they believe that gaining a more solid majority and the presidency will save us. They also believe that the best way to do that is to take as few risks as possible and vie for the almighty middle.
Watch the votes check the rhetoric.
They are balancing risk against electoral strategy. They don't want anything to come back to haunt them, and I think they will be as cautious as possible. This precludes impeachment. Dems picked up some seats held by GOP incumbants in '98. They are not going to forget that.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 08:11 AM
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21. Impeach
I disagree. Impeachment is not the goal. Conviction and removal from office is the goal. If this man is not removed from office, then irreparable damage to the Republic will be done.
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