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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:56 PM
Original message
Edwards story. Rumors or truth?
You know what I'm talking about. LA Talk radio was reporting it like it was gospel truth. Someone help me out. Say it aint so!
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:57 PM
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1. UNtil I hear otherwise by somebody else than the National Enquirer, I will consider it as baseless.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:40 AM
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46. The Weekly World News is seconding the story
So it must be true...


:crazy:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:57 PM
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2. I have no idea what you're talking about
:P
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:02 PM
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13. Drudge is headlining the National Enquirer story
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/sen_john_edwards_caught_with_mistress_and_love_child_in_la_hotel/celebrity/65193

Who knows. Sometimes the National Enquirer gets it right, sometimes they get it way wrong. Hell those sleazy mags have been pushing Laura's divorcing Bush and that Obama cheats.

Hope it's not true. Mainly for Elizabeth.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:09 PM
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19. OMG! Thats Camilla Parker Bowles!
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 06:14 PM by sheeptramp
Picture from link


I am not for one minute fooled by her platinum dye job and the obvious jet lag. Thats Camilla.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:15 PM
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22. *lmao*!
wow she looks kinda zombie-ish. and camilla-like.

that camilla is a power-hussy.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:58 PM
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3. I dont know what you're talking about
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:58 PM
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4. Stuck in the Cornfields of the Midwest, I Have No Clue What LA Gossip Is
Care to enlighten us, or at least link to something?
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RedShoes Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:59 PM
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5. east coaster with no clue as to what you're talking about either. eom
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:59 PM
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6. Add me to the clueless
what rumour/story?
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:59 PM
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7. Wha? Huh?
?
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:59 PM
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8. Please clarify. I don't know what you're talking about. n/t
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:00 PM
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9. It's a trashy rumor, probably started in case he's named VP.
This is desperation on the part of the right.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:23 PM
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26. It was first reported a year or so ago.
Why would someone dredge it up just so he won't be named VP (and I hope to God he won't)?
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:31 PM
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28. Perhaps some bitter PUMA or other nasty person with too much
time on their hands. Perhaps someone who thinks Hillary has a chance as VP..Who knows.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 08:11 AM
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53. "perhaps someone who thinks Hillary has a chance at VP."
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 08:11 AM by Evergreen Emerald
Any accuse to bash Clinton and her supporters. Even if you have to stretch so far that you make no sense.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 08:51 AM
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58. Interesting
The Clintonite who owns National Enquirer


The political world has been holding its nose for the last twenty-four hours while peering at the weekly tabloid National Enquirer, which published a story yesterday alleging that presidential candidate John Edwards had an extra-marital affair.

"The story is false," Edwards told reporters in South Carolina today, according to a reporter who was there.

What the tabloid's readers, in politics and out, may not know is that a key owner of the Enquirer is a prominent New York investment banker and one of Hillary Clinton's key backers, Roger Altman. Altman was an official in the first Clinton administration, and his name is often mentioned as a possible Clinton Treasury Secretary.

.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1007/The_Clintonite_who_owns_National_Enquirer.html



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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 07:04 PM
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62. One word for you: Bullshit!!!!
Leave the Clintons out of this cesspool. Yeah, they have soooo much influence with the Enquirer that they've been featured regularly on their pages.

:crazy:
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:34 PM
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29. For the same reason the original 'breaking story' was published 3 days prior to the Iowa caucus.
It is a lie.

Let me repeat.

It is a lie.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:37 PM
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30. Bingo n/t
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:00 PM
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10. This Nor Cal
person is also clueless. :shrug:

How about giving us a hint?
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:02 PM
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14. I read elsewhere that the Enquirer caught him with a woman
and a lovechild in Los Angeles last night at a hotel.

No pictures, which seems odd for the National Enquirer.

Also, they called him the "vice-presidential candidate" which makes the story sound four years old.

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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:08 PM
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17. If NE Reporters Where There Why Weren't The NE Paparrazi......
there as well? Why would they miss an opportunity to take his picture in the hotel? Even if they didn't have their camera's you think somebody would have used a cell phone camera. This story is highly suspect. I don't believe it at all. But what this tells me is that Edwards might be a leading candidate for VP and they are trying to throw a monkey wrench in the pot.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. Yes, it rings untrue if they had no
photographers.
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:42 PM
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32. Yep, I think the story is BS.
With reporters claiming he ran up/down staircases, even into a bathroom, surely they'd have been prepared with a camera of some sort. They supposedly knew about this "encounter" for some time.



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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:15 PM
Response to Reply #14
23. Seems the NE did
a similar hit piece on Obama a couple of months ago. That didn't go anywhere, either.

I don't believe it.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:38 PM
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36. LA talk radio spend two hours on the story. I'm sure a few thou believe it's true now
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blondie58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 08:48 AM
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57. yeah, I think that is it
someone else posted on it here today- http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3662023


it is incredible that they rehash this nonsense.
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:01 PM
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11. is it the same rumor that was going around last fall? n/t
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:03 PM
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15. What?....... That the Edwards's have a really big house?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:02 PM
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12. I don't think he'd do that to a gerbil.
Just saying.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:05 PM
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16. This died the FIRST time it was floated out there --
when Edwards was still in the running.

Like the bogus story about Obama, they seem to be trying to resurrect it again.

If it had been true, we'd know about it by now. I don't believe it.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:09 PM
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18. John Edwards...eats potato chips? What rumor?
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Dems2002 Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:26 PM
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27. Hate to say it, but believe it's true
Honestly, I hate to say it, but Edwards dropped out of the Presidential Race at a very strange time. He dropped out less than a week before Super Tuesday right after both a huge fundraising push and repeated promised that he was going to keep going through the final state. Even if his campaign had determined it was hopeless, he wouldn't have lost much by waiting to drop out until AFTER Super Tuesday.

Which meant to me one of two things:

A. Elizabeth's health was too delicate to support them continuing to campaign.

B. The affair, and even worse the resultant child, had some truth to it.

The rumor of the affair started in October/November, but escalated in January 2008, right before he dropped out.

My belief is that he was given a choice by the oppo researchers from either Clinton or Obama, drop out or we'll release this information, or additional inquiries from LA Times/NY Times or the like.

The confirmation of an affair on his part would have sunk his campaign and reputation. Too many people love Elizabeth, and the fact that she has cancer makes it that much more of a betrayal. He would have been villified with little opportunity to recover.

While I cannot imagine he was this stupid, if he was, he made the correct decision to drop out of the Presidential Race, and the suggestion that he'll be anything in a democratic administration is a lie. He won't be able to go that firmly back into the public eye.

Now, it still appears that the National Enquirer doesn't have the smoking gun. No photos of the two of them together, which still allows this to be just a rumor, hot air and NOT the truth.

I hope that it isn't true, but sex and politics and power go hand in hand.

Dems
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:38 PM
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31. Good grief? He dropped out because of a story that first came out weeks before?
Wrong.

He dropped out because he wasn't going to win.

You are being played by the frickin' National Enquirer.
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Dems2002 Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:17 PM
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33. Not being played, just understand politics and the media
Look, I'm not going to say Edwards had an affair. I have no direct knowledge and all we have is innuendo and friend of friend comments.

However, as an Edwards supporter in California, I found the timing of his drop-out suspicious. There wasn't a lot for him to lose if he stayed in through Super Tuesday. In 2004 he was the last hold-out, (and I voted for him because I thought Kerry was a poor choice) so it would keep with that precedent.

But he did drop-out. Yes, the rumors and denials to this story began in October 2007. Without hard evidence, no major paper was going to cover it, so he was likely safe. But you can be sure the other campaigns had opppo resources checking it out. And Edwards in the race on Super Tuesday would have likely hurt Hillary's chances, since at the time they had higher expectations for a clean-up.

I find it possible that one of the campaigns's or friends of, had the information to take to the media but offered Edwards the opportunity to drop-out of the race instead, which he took. (The correct decision)

Frankly, if this story is true, it would have hurt him more than any of the other candidates. I also believe that Hillary has had her own affairs, and the rumors about McCain are pretty much fact. Neither is likely to hurt their chances, just as it didn't to Bill or any of the rest of our former Presidents.

But, Elizabeth rocks and has cancer and there's a potential kid in the mix. And Edwards comes across as a 'good guy.' It would have killed his chances.

Dems

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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 11:44 PM
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44. Anything is possible, but that doesn't make it even close to probable.
nt

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:21 AM
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50. Wow, you just enjoy spreading this about don't you? You are even
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 02:23 AM by saracat
more disgusting than the Enquirer and they are pretty low. At least they are "paid" to peddle their smut. You even manage to smear Clinton at the same time.I find it really hard to believe that a real Edwards supporter would lend any credence to this tawdry story.

Since you like to connect the dots so well I suppose the fact that Cate was involved in a very suspicious auto accident less than a few weeks before he dropped out might have contributed to his decision.When you have lost one child to an auto accident in an odd manner the implied threat to another is more than unnerving.John was a huge threat to many corporate entities and we will never know what they may have threatened him with.

The big obstacle to any veracity to your story is Elizabeth herself. She would have drop kicked him and she is still at his side.

And Edwards wasn't forced out to help Hillary's chances. He was shoved out to benefit Obama.And the PTB were stunned that Hillary didn't cave.

I think anyone giving any credibility to this story ought to be ashamed of themselves.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 07:00 PM
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60. Precisely what affairs is Hillary supposed to have had???
Vince Foster, Huma Abedin?

Please.........

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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 07:00 PM
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61. Precisely what affairs is Hillary supposed to have had???
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 07:01 PM by Beacool
Vince Foster, Huma Abedin?

Please.........

Oops, sorry about the double post. I don't know what happened.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:01 PM
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37. What does that have to do with him eating potato chips?
Maybe you meant to reply to someone else?
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DU9598 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 08:37 AM
Response to Reply #27
54. Response to Dems2002
If it were true, and it were the reason he dropped out of the race then why would he have ever entered the race in the first place?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 07:33 PM
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65. ego.
he probably figured that he could 'get away with it'- i.e. hoodwink the press.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:11 PM
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21. I guess that's Edwards not VP?
darn, I thought he would be a good choice
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:18 PM
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24. John certainly is a threat to someone. They keep trying to push this absolutely bogus story. it didn
have legs a year ago and it doesn't have legs now. I mean really give it up!
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:07 AM
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48. i never heard of it a year ago. n/t
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:22 PM
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25. From this we deduce GOP does not want Edwards on the ticket. That is all.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:15 PM
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34. It's not just the GOP that doesn't want him on the ticket
but our corporate masters as well. Edwards will push for economic justice and we can't have that, can we?
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elizfeelinggreat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:15 PM
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39. bingo
it rings true that the big money interests would be threatened by his message
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 11:08 PM
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41. Edwards is a huge threat to the corporations that own the media.
I don't believe this story for a minute. John and Elizabeth and their children are seen frequently here in North Carolina. There are no rumors about anything like this. It's a lie, I'm certain.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:37 PM
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35. Sorry about being vague but last time I asked about a rumor my thread was closed & I was called
a rightwinger. The implication was that I was asking about the rumor as a way to publicize it.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:47 AM
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52. Not a single photo of the parties together, and no statements from actual people. It's a hit piece.
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 05:50 AM by KrazyKat
Designed to do damage just by putting made-up shit into the tribal atmosphere. It's the Enquirer -- so consider the "source."

One minute the right wing is impugning Edwards' masculinity with sobriquets like "Breck Girl," then they turn around and try to nail him for skirt-chasing.

Note that there's not one photo of the two together, nor any statements from actual people. A Nat'l Enquirer "saw" them. Right. And Bat-boy is secretly meeting with Obama. :grr:

On edit: Sorry you got flamed as a wingnut. Tempers are understandably short after 7 1/2 years of unrelenting horse-flop.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:06 PM
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38. Couldn't be any of my f%$&ing business.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 11:01 PM
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40. No, this is not true.
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 11:03 PM by ellie
It has been debunked.


Edited because I thought this was about a different rumor. That wasn't Edwards either.
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 06:42 PM
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59. Do you have a link to the "de-bunking"?
Was anything published that actually disproved the rumors? Say with times, dates, denials from the woman? Anything?
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 11:26 PM
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42. Somebody is scared that he will be named AG. The Media to
the rescue.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 11:30 PM
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43. OMG!!1 LA Talk radio said it was the gospel truth! I'm convinced.
Plus isn't this an old-as-hell debunked story from a year ago?


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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 12:09 AM
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45. has it ever been debunked?
I'm not sure I'd even know how such a rumor could be "debunked".
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:56 AM
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47. Talk radio, the National Enquirer, and Weekly World News are reporting it?
It HAS to be true! :sarcasm:
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:08 AM
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49. well, there goes the vp slot. n/t
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Wabbajack_ Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 04:40 AM
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51. Big deal if it is true.
Go John!!
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 07:39 PM
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66. Except For The VP
thing - if this is true. The short list just got shorter and Sam Nunn wasn't who I was rooting for.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 08:41 AM
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55. Think about this: the story allegedly was floated a year ago
go back a year ago - Edwards was in the process (or had just gotten through the process) of pondering whether or not to run due to Elizabeth's recurring cancer. *IF* the story was "true" - would he really have decided to stage the run knowing that the story would come out and not only kill his campaign, but possibly due great harm (due to the additional stress) to his wife?

Please. :crazy:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 08:42 AM
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56. Irrelevant, as he it not a candidate for office
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 07:11 PM
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63. Regardless of it's truth, it shows how desperate they are.
They are grasping at straws to find something to divert attention from our soaring candidate.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 07:16 PM
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64. On Drudge: EDWARDS RESPONDS: 'I don't talk about these tabloids. Tabloid trash is full of lies.' Dev
EDWARDS RESPONDS: 'I don't talk about these tabloids. Tabloid trash is full of lies.' Developing...
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LBJDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 07:39 PM
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67. Bullshit
Too easy.
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