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jbane
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:02 AM Original message |
If you didn't like the Swiftboating of Kerry, don't do it to McCain |
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Midlodemocrat
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
1. This should be good. |
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KitchenWitch
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
73. Scootch over a bit! |
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jbane
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
74. Very Good... |
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Midlodemocrat
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Yup. There are a lot of us here at DU. |
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book_worm
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
114. but do you agree with what the OP said? |
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Richardo
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
2. Thank you. |
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gcomeau
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. No... military service should *not* be off limits. |
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Richardo
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. 'legitimate' is the key word |
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Allyoop
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
95. Agree |
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Squatch
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
23. Negative...McCain is making his military service the center of his campaign |
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HardWorkingDem
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #23 |
32. Hm.....where did we hear that before?!?!? |
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Squatch
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. I don't know where the hell you've heard that before. |
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HardWorkingDem
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #35 |
46. How McCain... |
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TexasObserver
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #23 |
59. Absolutely. He was unlike Kerry. McCain was a lousy service member. |
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hisownpetard
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
3. IBTL. |
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liberal N proud
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
4. I don't think we have to |
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Mayberry Machiavelli
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
5. Please provide examples of such swiftboating, oh long time listener. |
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libnnc
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
7. if it's off limits, then why does he keep bringing it up? |
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Richardo
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. You're right - so if you want to criticize McCain's service stop complaining about Kerry's treatment |
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libnnc
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. last time I checked, this was 2008 |
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Richardo
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Ask the people who are still bemoaning Kerry's swiftboating |
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Mass
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. People should not lie about McCain. This was the problem with the swiftboaters: the lies... |
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libnnc
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #15 |
24. point to where I moaned about Kerry's service. |
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treestar
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
56. Yeah we can. We can do it because they did it first. |
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Richardo
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #56 |
87. It's a pissing contest you can't win. |
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uppityperson
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
79. Is there a difference between swiftboating and criticizing or pointing out lies |
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Richardo
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. I'll bet the swiftboaters said the same thing |
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libnnc
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. which part of "The Swiftboaters lied" do you not understand? |
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uppityperson
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. Is there a difference between swiftboating and criticizing or pointing out lies? |
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Richardo
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. You're right - I read that as a statement. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
9. There's nothing honorable about John McCain. |
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wryter2000
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #9 |
42. I'll sure criticize him for having Swiftliars on his campaign |
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TheDebbieDee
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
10. It's been that "Holier than thou," and "We'll take the high road !" |
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cobalt1999
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. That's fine, but it means you can't bitch about the other side using the "low road" tactics. |
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TheDebbieDee
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. It might mean that YOU can't 8itch about repukes using |
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cobalt1999
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. LOL |
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treestar
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #16 |
57. Then you prefer a repuke Presidency |
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cobalt1999
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Hypocrisy is one thing I try very hard not to fall into. |
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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
13. No, he's not a chicken hawk.... He's a fucking WAR HAWK!!! |
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
14. He got shot down and held prisoner by a third world army. What's there to swiftboat? |
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rucky
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
17. That's fine. But it's not a qualification for President. n/t |
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L. Coyote
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
18. Would questions about the side-effects of his meds be okay? |
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TwilightGardener
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
20. Nope, I hope he goes down however he goes down--I am "win at all costs" now. |
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TheDebbieDee
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. I agree. WE MUST win in November. Whatever it takes! |
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jbane
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. I'm almost on board with that except for two things |
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YvonneCa
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. "Go swiftboat".. |
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TwilightGardener
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #31 |
66. I'm a wife of a career serviceman--I don't think military records are off-limits-- |
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TheDebbieDee
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #31 |
111. I'm a vet, too, Jbane. And I take exception to McSame's |
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Kaleko
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
21. McCain is swiftboating himself, thanks to Jed Lewison of the JedReport. |
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Gabi Hayes
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
53. thanks for that clip....did you see this one, from the same person, which highlights conclusively |
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MiniMe
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
26. I agree, he served honorably. No problems with that. I agree with Wes Clark, |
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predfan
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
27. Is it fair to revisit what the Bush campaign said back in 2000 about McCain? |
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RB TexLa
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
29. Ah yes, the high road, it always leads to a good view of your opponent's victory party |
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zanne
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Sad but so true. nt |
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The Stranger
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
30. Did he stick up for Kerry publicly against the Swift Boat "Veterans"? |
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zanne
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
33. I think we should give as good as we get. |
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bullwinkle428
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
36. Do you consider Wes Clark's comments a form of "swiftboating"? |
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blogslut
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
37. John McCain is swiftboating himself |
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wryter2000
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
39. While I agree in principle |
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iconicgnom
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
40. Swiftboaters weren't wrong for criticizing Kerry's record, they were wrong for LYING about it. |
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LittleClarkie
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #40 |
80. That's a good distinction to make. |
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YvonneCa
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #40 |
107. Thank you... |
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seabeyond
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
41. i have never nor would i ever criticize his military. regardless, i thank him for that AND |
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Marrah_G
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
43. oh boy....I am not jumping in the middle of this mess. |
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AlCzervik
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
44. if he uses any of the swift boaters in his campaign he should be trashed for it, other |
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Richardo
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #44 |
108. I've missed your pragmatic rationality... |
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AlCzervik
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #108 |
117. Hi, nice to see you too! |
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Vickers
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
45. "The man served honorably." |
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NightWatcher
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #45 |
65. he's sporting a Navy avatar. I guess he is looking out for his Navy buddy |
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jbane
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Wed Jul-23-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #45 |
118. USN |
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Mz Pip
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
47. I would not attack |
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sarge43
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
48. The Democrats didn't start this bs. |
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JaneQPublic
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. So we can't wear the purple heart bandaids at our convention? |
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sarge43
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #49 |
61. I hope not, else I'd have to re-register as an Independent. n/t |
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AzDar
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Wed Jul-23-08 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
50. The truth should never be off limits. And I'd be REALLY surprised if any |
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cap
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
51. we don't need to swiftboat McCain: He's swiftboating himself |
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
52. It's not 'swiftboating' if it is factual...that is the biggest difference.. |
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treestar
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
54. And lose the election |
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City Lights
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
55. Who's doing it to mccain? |
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donco6
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
58. Who's swiftboating McCain? eom |
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. John McCain is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life |
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sarge43
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Yes mother. |
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
64. "swiftboating" has the connotation of UNtrue. McNASTY has ugly TRUTHS about him. n/t |
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Alter Ego
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
67. No one's questioning his service--it's his shameless use of it as |
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DutchLiberal
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
68. What's honorable about bombing innocent women and children to death? |
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aint_no_life_nowhere
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
69. Questioning the relevancy of his POW experience isn't swiftboating |
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underseasurveyor
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
70. Pfffft |
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Stinky The Clown
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
71. "Swiftboating" is telling outright lies. Calling into question Captain Combover's ......... |
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
72. the man did not serve honorably. he couldn't carry John Kerry's jockstrap. nt. |
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
75. Show me one example of a DUer Swiftboating McCain. |
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Initech
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Wed Jul-23-08 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
76. I agree. |
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uppityperson
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
78. He did (serve honorably)? Link? Proof? He needs to prove what he says. |
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sarge43
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Indeed. |
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Quantess
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
82. I can still question his judgment and military policies. |
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Richardo
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #82 |
99. Of course you can. Questioning his judgement is not casting aspersions on his service. |
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Philosoraptor
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
83. mc idiot hired the very people who swiftboated him to swiftboat Obama |
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Bake
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
84. How many planes did he crack up? |
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La Lioness Priyanka
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
86. i agree. nt |
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libnnc
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Do you agree that McCain should shut his fucking yap about his record? |
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La Lioness Priyanka
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. no. i think people shouldnt lie about service. what they did to kerry was unforgiveable. |
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libnnc
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Who on DU has lied about McCain's service record? |
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La Lioness Priyanka
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. did i say he has? i just agreed that he shouldnt be swiftboated. |
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Richardo
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. You won't win that argument. |
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libnnc
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. People who plan on voting for McCain soley based on his POW status |
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Richardo
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. That's what I was saying |
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aint_no_life_nowhere
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #97 |
109. Funny how that works |
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Richardo
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #109 |
112. You're another one who can't read, aren't you? |
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YvonneCa
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #92 |
106. Thank you... |
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spanone
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
88. okay. |
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LeftCoast
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
98. Who's spreading false stories about McCain's service in Vietnam? |
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Richardo
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. Suggesting his Vietnam experience does not qualify him is NOT disparaging his service |
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LeftCoast
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #102 |
110. I think we're arguing much the same thing |
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Richardo
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. Agreed. |
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burythehatchet
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
100. I think I've read 15 replies asking you for examples of "swiftboating", or do you know what the fuck |
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jbane
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Wed Jul-23-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #100 |
119. The Mets are closing in on the Phillies.... |
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snooper2
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
104. He didn't serve Honorably |
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burythehatchet
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
105. He was a lousy student, he's a liar, he is devoid of principles, he's never had to work an honest |
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
115. Telling the truth is not "swiftboating." |
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RamboLiberal
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
116. Here's 2 Swiftboats I see against McCain quite often on DU |
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