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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:52 PM Original message |
Poll question: Should religious flyers be distributed on public school grounds? |
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Parche
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. Hell NO |
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loveable liberal
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. I would expect her not to whine when they were handed out also... |
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Clark2008
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. I voted "not sure" because my son's school |
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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. "I doubt they would ever try to put flyers for camp in our school" |
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spoony
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. Atheism is not a religious group |
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Parche
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. I KNow |
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Quantess
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Thu Jul-24-08 02:16 AM Response to Reply #32 |
94. I'm an agnostic. |
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Freddie Stubbs
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. It's not her place to decide |
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loveable liberal
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. No harm in distributing flyers... others do it all the time... |
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bean fidhleir
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. There is a harm - it violates our Constitutional rights when a government official allows |
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spoony
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Only if they favour one over another |
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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
45. Apparently the superintendent felt it did favor one over the other. |
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spoony
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. "It" being what? Their district? |
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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Yes we are talking about a religious flyer for a bible school. |
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spoony
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #58 |
67. You have misunderstood |
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Freddie Stubbs
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
37. Which of our Constitutional right does it harm? |
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meegbear
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
3. Drama and Soccer clubs are clubs organized by the school itself ... |
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Freddie Stubbs
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Many sports clubs are NOT run by the schools |
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meegbear
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
60. I did not know that ... |
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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
47. The soccer clubs here are organized outside the school. n/t |
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freesqueeze
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
4. All she needs is a reminder that |
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panader0
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
5. My local K-8 grade school has religious (Baptist) services on Sunday. |
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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. Why wouldn't they rent space to other religious groups? |
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aspergris
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
71. Your evidence for this is what>? |
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underseasurveyor
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. HELL NO! |
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spoony
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. While I see where you're coming from, mere exposure to |
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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. I don't agree. Religion belongs in church, |
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spoony
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Which is why they cannot favour any one religion over another |
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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. they cannot favor one group over another. |
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aspergris
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #41 |
72. Finally somebody who UNDERSTANDS the law |
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underseasurveyor
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
54. I hardly sheltered my child from religion |
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Captain Angry
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Wed Jul-23-08 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
7. Advertise your bible school at your church. |
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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. I agree. Hand them out at the library, the grocery store, etc. |
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Captain Angry
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. That's all I'm saying. :-) |
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Quantess
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
40. I agree. Separation of Church and State needs to be respected. |
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aspergris
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
73. Evidence please |
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Captain Angry
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Evidence of what? |
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aspergris
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Wed Jul-23-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. And I'm saying |
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Captain Angry
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Wed Jul-23-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. Ah. You can't exactly say you were "saying" something when all I got to work with was a "?" |
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aspergris
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Wed Jul-23-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. I think they'd generally accept that we have religious freedom |
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Freddie Stubbs
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
10. Only if other groups are permitted to do so |
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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Religion doesn't belong in a public school. n/t |
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spoony
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. That isn't a valid response to the post |
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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Separation of church and state. |
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spoony
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. To my knowledge, Jefferson's personal opinions |
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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Your opinion is irrelevant about how irrelevant my opinion may or may not be.... |
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spoony
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
59. You keep citing things that agree with me |
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Freddie Stubbs
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
50. And the state cannot prohibit religion |
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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Public schools may not provide religious instruction but may teach about religion |
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spoony
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. And how is that affected by these flyers? |
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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #61 |
81. See post # 53 |
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Freddie Stubbs
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. The school was not providing religious instruction |
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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #62 |
84. You are commenting on a comment about another comment. |
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aspergris
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
74. Yup |
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Freddie Stubbs
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. Actually, the Supreme Court ruled in 1981 that schools must be content neutral when allowing access |
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hfojvt
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
11. from "The Oxford Companion to the Supreme Court of the United States" |
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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. But that's assuming all are willing participants. |
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Squatch
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. "...By contrast when religious activity in public schools..." |
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aspergris
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
75. Thank you |
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Fumesucker
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
22. In an ideal world, all groups should have equal access to hand out flyers at school. |
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bigwillq
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
26. No |
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ncliberal
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
29. Absolutely not. |
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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Agreed and Welcome to DU, ncliberal ! |
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ncliberal
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Hi! Thanks for the welcome but I've been here a long time. |
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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. Then you're still "new" ! |
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Freddie Stubbs
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. How are they different? |
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ulysses
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. no one's come to the door lately to convert me to Arsenal. |
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tkmorris
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. How about Crystal Palace? |
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ulysses
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. true. |
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spoony
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #46 |
64. You lot are letting other feelings seep into this |
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Gormy Cuss
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #36 |
63. One is specifically proselytizing for a religion. |
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spoony
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Presence is endorsement? |
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Gormy Cuss
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Distributing recruitment flyers is more than just presence. |
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The2ndWheel
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
42. Is this just some random woman? |
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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. How about the kids that aren't 'bible' oriented feel excluded? Maybe? |
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spoony
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #44 |
66. Maybe soccer makes non-athletic kids feel bad |
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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #66 |
89. Some kids that chose not to participate in religious activities are harassed. |
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Arugula Latte
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Wed Jul-23-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. Yep. My niece went through a horrible time at a supposedly public school |
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KansDem
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
48. Yes, just as soon as I can distribute Darwin's "Origin of the Species" in their churches... |
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AZ Criminal JD
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
49. The school will lose the suit |
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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. It depends on what was in the flier....Did it contain "proselytizing language.”? |
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AZ Criminal JD
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Wed Jul-23-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #53 |
83. Clicking the link doesn't give any relevant facts. |
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Breeze54
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Wed Jul-23-08 04:13 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. That's the point. We don't know the content of the flyer. |
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BlooInBloo
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
51. If it's during Fairy Tales class, then sure. |
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spoony
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #51 |
68. Substantial contribution as always |
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BlooInBloo
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Wed Jul-23-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #68 |
80. Indeed. I *am* what prevents "proper conversations" from taking place.... |
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treestar
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Wed Jul-23-08 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
69. Geez, they have everyplace else they can distribute whatever |
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ulysses
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Wed Jul-23-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. they're never at the DMV when you need them. |
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anonymous171
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Wed Jul-23-08 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
79. Legally, she is right. |
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McCamy Taylor
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Wed Jul-23-08 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
86. Her flyers could cause Jewish or nonChristian children to feel ostracized. |
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slackmaster
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Wed Jul-23-08 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
88. If they allow any religious flyers they should extend the same courtesy to ALL religions |
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aspergris
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Wed Jul-23-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Simpler, but unconstitutional |
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Arugula Latte
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Wed Jul-23-08 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
91. A thousand times NO. Wait, make that a million times NO. |
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Irishonly
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Wed Jul-23-08 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
92. No |
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Kitty Herder
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Thu Jul-24-08 03:05 AM Response to Original message |
95. The first ammendment doesn't prohibit the establishment of drama and soccer clubs |
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LeftyMom
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Thu Jul-24-08 03:10 AM Response to Original message |
96. Of course not. |
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TrogL
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Thu Jul-24-08 03:53 AM Response to Original message |
97. Nothing should be distributed on school property that isn't on the curriculum |
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AutumnMist
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Thu Jul-24-08 04:16 AM Response to Original message |
98. Honestly it wouldnt bother me |
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alwysdrunk
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Thu Jul-24-08 07:35 AM Response to Original message |
99. I voted yes. |
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PassingFair
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Thu Jul-24-08 07:52 AM Response to Reply #99 |
100. What about the Boy Scouts recruiting class by class... |
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OnionPatch
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Thu Jul-24-08 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
101. If it was only advertising a summer camp, I wouldn't have a problem with it. |
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