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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:03 AM
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Circumcision may lift HIV risk for women
Circumcision may lift HIV risk for women

Circumcision may reduce men's chances of contracting HIV by up to 60 percent — but early results suggest the procedure may put women at increased risk of infection, according to preliminary data presented Tuesday.

Early results announced at a U.N. consultation in Switzerland on the potential impact of male circumcision on AIDS in Africa suggested that if HIV-positive men do not abstain from sex while healing from circumcision surgery, their female partners might have a higher chance of catching HIV from them.

However, experts said the results were not conclusive — and highly susceptible to other factors, such as condom use — demonstrating the difficulties of utilizing circumcision in HIV prevention in sub-Saharan Africa, where more than 60 percent of those with AIDS are women.

Previous studies have confirmed the dramatic impact circumcision has in cutting men's HIV infection rates, but a big question has been the resulting effect on women.

The first evidence — though very preliminary — suggests there is a period immediately following surgery when men may more easily transmit the virus to their female partners. "Women are already so vulnerable in this epidemic," said Jennifer Kates, an AIDS expert at the Kaiser Family Foundation who is not connected to the study. "We need to be particularly careful about anything that could put them at even greater risk."


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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:29 AM
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1. of course, cuz who would want to have sex? same effect the Pill
had on me
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:31 AM
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2. Circumcision or not
Edited on Thu Mar-08-07 10:32 AM by Katzenkavalier
The key is safe sex. That's all. Education and safe sex are the only truly effective ways to fight AIDS.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:18 AM
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3. So, the study concluded it is dangerous for a woman to have sex with a bleeding penis...
that is still healing from circumcision surgery.

DUH!



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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:21 AM
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4. Yep, which indicates right there what the real problem is
Sexual behavior. Having unprotected sex with a bleeding penis is NOT a good idea...
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:22 AM
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6. Unless you're a vampire. n/t
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 03:19 PM
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19. Dammit!
:spray:

Do you know just how hard it is to explain a punch line like that one! (when I busted out w/a whoop - everyone wants to know why?) :rofl:

You're on a roll today - I saw the cartoon in the health forum this AM ... priceless!

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 04:27 PM
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22. Making jokes about penises is easy. They're naturally funny little critters.
Like naked mole rats that have been stretched in a taffy pulling machine.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:23 AM
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7. Bringing a bleeding penis on public transport isn't a good idea either
Causes a mess in the aisle
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:22 AM
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5. Yeah. I think the thread title needs to be changed
...
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:30 AM
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10. The thread title is the same as the title of the article
n/t
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:32 AM
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11. Understood, but why compound the error?
It's a form of deception to pass on a misleading article title.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:02 PM
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14. Excuse me???
Edited on Thu Mar-08-07 12:03 PM by wicket
Posting the title of an article most certainly is NOT deception. Not sure where you're getting that from. :shrug:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 04:25 PM
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21. I'm not sure there's enough evidence to establish that the OP intended to deceive.
For one thing, there weren't any exclamation points used.

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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 01:58 PM
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17. As Norm MacDonald would say when he did SNL's Weekend Update:
"From the latest issue of DUH Magazine" :D
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:24 AM
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8. I don't know but in my experience
When a penis is oozing any substance foreign to it...I tend to avoid the penis. Just saying...
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drmom Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:25 AM
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9. What an irresponsible headline!
This is how Yahoo news chooses to tell this story? For the vast majority of people who will only scan the headline, all they will 'take home' is that sex with a circumcised man increases the risk of HIV transmission to women. What is wrong with the press????
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 01:57 PM
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16. Agreed
But somehow it's my fault for reposting the headline. :eyes:
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:39 AM
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12. Oboy! Another circumcision thread!
:nuke:
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 12:04 PM
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15. Why are you accusing me of all of these things??
Edited on Thu Mar-08-07 12:05 PM by wicket
You're just full of assumptions, eh?

:shrug:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 04:29 PM
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23. I agree that it's unfair to accuse you of intentional deception based upon evidence at hand.
Unless you've gone on penis-related rants that I don't know about.

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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:25 PM
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26. LOL
Not that I know of :D
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mitchleary Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:42 AM
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13. Ya know this is BS
It gets a little tiring hearing the the procircs always telling us the good things about it. Did you see the recent study that says mucal membranes help kill HIV? Ya know where some of those membranes are? You got it, in the foreskin. Not mention the botched circs that remove part of the glanis, etc.

I really wish people would get as outraged about male circ as they do female circ.
And to all of you that will cry it is not the same, you are still advocating cutting off a piece of the body so you do not have to deal with it. Either that or you are too lazy to take an extra few seconds to wash.

Either way it is total BS. Let your son grow up and decide if he wants to cut off that skin or not.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 03:21 PM
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20. Uncut and proud here! :)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 04:30 PM
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24. I take excellent care of my foreskin.
Edited on Thu Mar-08-07 04:31 PM by IanDB1
It's pressed between the pages of my photo album, next to a piece of my umbilical cord.

And it doesn't make sex feel any better when I take it out and wear it.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 04:32 PM
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25. LOL
Hehehehehe... cut or uncut, it's all cool. :)
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 02:01 PM
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18. what if she gets a mandatory vaccine first?
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